# He Hate Me FF Keeper League – Year 12

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 17, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989 "2014-06-17T14:53:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/21 "2014-07-25T20:11:51Z")

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Still waiting on Hamlet and WeirdDave. Don’t forget to vote. (And Ottoman Empire, your responses won’t count - please vote in the polls).

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/22 "2014-07-25T21:49:56Z")

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**Munch** can you update the draft order to include me?

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/23 "2014-07-26T02:06:18Z")

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> [@RetroVertigo](#):
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> **Munch** can you update the draft order to include me?

I dunno, what’s in it for me? (Sorry - I wasn’t sure who I accidentally replaced you with, and I was waiting for some resolvement on the draft order poll.)

Either way, these are pending the new vote that will soon be expiring:  
Draft Pick Last Year’s Finish  
1 Crabby Hermits  
2 Fightin’ Quakers  
3 Spiritus Mundane  
4 Ottoman Empire  
5 Varlos’ Zzzzzzzz  
6 Baltimore Weirdos  
7 Fourth & Nineteen  
8 Moridwon (Hamlet)  
9 Fightin’ Fig Things  
10 Omnipotents  
11 No Use For A Name  
12 HungryHungryHaruspex  
13 Exploding Pancakes  
14 9 Inch Neils

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/24 "2014-07-26T02:14:23Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Still waiting on Hamlet and WeirdDave. Don’t forget to vote. (And Ottoman Empire, your responses won’t count - please vote in the polls).

Sorry for my tardiness. I’m in, of course. I’m afraid that Ray Rice may have beaten **Weirddave** unconscious and dragged him from an elevator though.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/25 "2014-07-26T02:19:38Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Either way, these are pending the new vote that will soon be expiring:

They shouldn’t be. The vote looks like it’s going in favor of giving all 4 for the consolation bracket, but either way, it shouldn’t be changed for this year. Otherwise people may be deciding on the issue based on how they benefit or hurt based on the change. Either way, the draft order should have the top 4 from the consolation as the first four, since those were the rules last year, and the results form any votes should take effect next year.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/26 "2014-07-28T00:47:51Z")

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Hey everybody. Happy to be back, is been way to long!

For the record, I’m in favor of eliminating trading of keeper picks. Seems like there’s a bunch of other proposed changes and I’m on my phone, so I won’t have the ability to vote in the poll or comment further now.

Subscribed now, so I’ll try and keep up!

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/27 "2014-08-03T11:50:58Z")

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Spiritus - I’ve sent you multiple invites. At some point, you joined. Then you kept sending me invite requests, to which I responded multiple times. You have not responded to any of those emails - so I’m assuming they’re just going to spam, or your email is screwed up. I’ve deleted your team from the league, and sent a new request. Please respond to my email immediately so we can clear this up.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/28 "2014-08-03T17:11:33Z")

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Okay - that last one did it. Not sure why this league/invite got screwed up in Yahoo, but every time I hit my fantasy page it indicated I needed to request an invite, even after I had already joined the first time. Then it would say my team was already owned and to request another invite.

Very annoying but now seemingly resolved. (And not an issue for either of my other repeat leaguees on Yahoo.)

I’m back. I have voted in the polls. And I am ready to have a slighly above average season!!!

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/29 "2014-08-03T23:10:46Z")

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**Keepers**  
Ball in 3  
Patterson in 7  
Woodhead in 8

All subject to change for trade/injury of course. But that’s how it looks today.

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/30 "2014-08-08T01:36:58Z")

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Keeping

Bell (6th last year)  
Crabtree (9th last year)  
Maclin (15th last year)

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2014, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/31 "2014-08-08T01:43:59Z")

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Current standings of the vote are:

Should we abolish trading keeper round draft picks?  
Yes: 8  
No: 2

Should all consolation teams get a high pick, or just winner  
All consolation bracket teams get picks 1-4: 7  
Just winner: 2

Getting rid of keepers passes with a majority vote. Consolation teams getting picks 1-4 was the default going into the vote, so even if the remaining 5 owners were to vote the other way, the tie would go to the status quo. 71% voter turnout for a fantasy league - better than the general public, I guess…

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2014, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/32 "2014-08-08T02:00:53Z")

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Jules and I have a trade to announce, now that the keeper rules are set:

Jules gives up: Ben Tate, Round 16 pick  
Munch gives up: Round 8 pick

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/33 "2014-08-11T16:08:40Z")

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So I have a problem. My trivia team just made it into the finals, which is on draft night. I will either need to a) transfer commish powers to someone else and find a friend to draft for me or b) move the draft. I obviously won’t do b) without league consent. Does anyone have a conflict if we move the draft to the next day, Monday August 25?

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/34 "2014-08-12T09:42:30Z")

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I can’t draft on Mondays. Can’t draft on Sundays either, but I found someone to help me out for the 24th.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/35 "2014-08-12T09:51:11Z")

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Barring some disaster, I’ll be keeping **Alshon Jeffery (6th), Alfred Morris (8th), and Percy Harvin (9th).**

I still have the rights to Shane Vereen in the 4th if anyone is interested/worried they’ll lose out on the RB position. He’s at least equal value in the 4th (probably more, considering how fast RB dries up), and he was one of the best per game scorers at the position last year. You can have his rights for a late round pick.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/36 "2014-08-12T15:54:13Z")

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I will be keeping:

Joique Bell (Det - RB) 8th  
Aaron Dobson (NE - WR) 11th  
Zach Ertz (Phi - TE) 12th

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/37 "2014-08-13T00:05:58Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> [Link to league homepage](http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/hehatemesdmb)  
> Schedule  
> Offseason Trade Deadline: dunno yet  
> Keeper Declaration: Wednesday 9/13/2014 (tentative)  
> Live Draft: 9/17/2014 at 8:00pm Eastern (tentative)

Just noticed this. Ugh - things have gotten busy since I started a new job.

Anyway, the draft is currently set for 8/24. Obviously, keepers cannot be announced after that fact. Let’s go with the…20th for keeper declarations. That gives everyone a bit over a week to get their houses in order. Also, like I mentioned above, I’m looking for any suggestions on a draft day alternative, if there is one. If not, I’ll need someone to step up as co-commish and I’ll get my friend to do it. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2014, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/38 "2014-08-13T00:50:44Z")

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Either day works for me.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2014, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/39 "2014-08-13T13:25:29Z")

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I’ll be keeping:

Randall Cobb, WR - 5th  
Phillip Rivers, QB - 9th

My live draft in Chicago will be on the night of the 24th, same as this one. I plan to be completely loaded, incoherent, and unable to conduct a good draft by 7:00 that night. Anyone who knows me that’s about par for the course, the only change being I won’t have access to a computer. If we can change the date that would be great.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/40 "2014-08-13T17:09:48Z")

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The 26th is the Big League draft, so that’s out (since many of the players here are in it). How about Wednesday or Thursday (8/27 and 8/28)?

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