# He Hate Me FF Keeper League – Year 12

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 17, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989 "2014-06-17T14:53:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/41 "2014-08-14T01:58:19Z")

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No issues with a Wed or Thu draft for me.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/42 "2014-08-14T02:38:35Z")

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The big league draft is actually sep 3 (possibly switching to sep 2), it’s the all pro draft that’s aug 26. the auction league also drafts Thursday the 28th. So of those, Wednesday is the best.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/43 "2014-08-14T03:13:20Z")

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RetroVertigo receives: rights to keep Shane Vereen (4th round keeper)  
Jules Andre receives: 12th round pick

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**RetroVertigo Keepers**  
Shane Vereen (4th)  
Joique Bell (Det - RB) 8th  
Aaron Dobson (NE - WR) 11th

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/44 "2014-08-14T03:16:34Z")

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> [@RetroVertigo](#):
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> RetroVertigo receives: rights to keep Shane Vereen (4th round keeper)  
> Jules Andre receives: 12th round pick

Please trade an accompanying draft pick - everyone must have 16 picks during the draft.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/45 "2014-08-14T03:39:47Z")

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Sorry bout that…I’ll post as soon as a decision is made.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/46 "2014-08-14T05:40:15Z")

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My mistake, I forgot to mention it. I’ll be throwing in my 15th round pick to even the numbers.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/47 "2014-08-15T17:49:04Z")

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I’m here! Totally missed that the thread was open. I am fine with getting rid of keeper pick trades.

I’ll be keeping Gio Bernard (2nd round cost), Reuben Randle (8th round cost, kept last year), and Martellus Bennett (10th). since I draft last in those rounds anyway. All three are being drafted higher than I expected; I wasn’t sure I’d be keeping _anyone_ at the end of last season.

It’ll be weird to draft first after drafting dead last two years in a row.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/48 "2014-08-15T19:04:00Z")

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The NFL is fucking ridiculous dragging the Gordon suspension out like this. I don’t know they’re going to announce whether he’s suspended or not by the time the deadline comes around.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/49 "2014-08-15T19:15:44Z")

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Considering three months ago nobody thought he had a snowball’s chance in hell of taking a snap you should probably be happy.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/50 "2014-08-15T19:18:40Z")

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I’m not going to be happy until he actually takes a snap. Things are looking a lot more positive, but if I end up keeping Gordon, and the NFL announces an indefinite suspension 2 days later, I get double screwed.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/51 "2014-08-15T19:22:00Z")

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Under the circumstances I think we’d let you out of that one.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/52 "2014-08-15T19:26:28Z")

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I don’t know - that’s kind of the point of deadlines. We had an issue last year where someone wanted to try to keep someone after he learned that an injury wasn’t so bad a day or two after the deadline, and I think we held it against him. I wouldn’t expect special treatment in this case, although obviously it would be appreciated. The NFL is really fucking over everyone involved here by delaying things - Gordon, the team, and fantasy players.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/53 "2014-08-15T19:32:15Z")

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Yeah, but that’s different: he’d have been taking that guy away from _everyone else_. Here it’s only you that is affected by Gordon.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/54 "2014-08-16T01:39:47Z")

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Any objections if Beef announces a 4th backup keeper, pending Gordon’s status? I’ll give it until the keeper deadline.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/55 "2014-08-16T02:14:25Z")

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No objections from me.

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/56 "2014-08-16T07:40:15Z")

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No objections. This is a pretty special case, considering it’s a possible year long ban and there seems to be no hurry in deciding the appeal.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/57 "2014-08-16T18:18:43Z")

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Well I appreciate you guys giving me flexibility on this issue. There’s a chance they’ll announce the suspension before the deadline, and it’ll be moot, but if not…

Can I say that if he’s suspended for any more than 6 games, I’d rather keep Kendall Wright in the 10th instead? Or is that too conditional? I’m concerned that I’ll make a suspended indefinitely/not suspended indefinitely statement, but then they issue an 8 game ban or something. Hopefully they’ll announce it soon and I can just make the decision.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/58 "2014-08-16T18:50:34Z")

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Oh, right, my other keepers.

Jordan Cameron in the 8th  
Zac Stacy in the 11th

If suspended 6 games or less:  
Josh Gordon in the 5th

Otherwise Kendall Wright in the 10th

Edit: There’s a chance he might get a temporary restraining order or injunction against the NFL and play this year while he ties it in the courts like the Williams did with the StarCaps things. I would hope in that case, it’s obvious he’d be a keeper. So basically, if he’s going to play 10 games or more (ignoring injury obviously), I’m willing to spend a 5th on him.

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**Author:** ![Ottoerotic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/6de8d8/32.png) [@Ottoerotic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ottoerotic)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/59 "2014-08-19T04:36:45Z")

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I’ll keep Julius Thomas in the 14th… and that will be it for me.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/60 "2014-08-19T11:51:58Z")

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I’ll be keeping Spiller (3rd), Tate (4th) and Stewart (12th).

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