# He Hate Me FF Keeper League – Year 12 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 17, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989 "2014-06-17T14:53:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/121 "2014-09-04T17:29:33Z")
**Crabby Hermits** 1. (5) Eddie Lacy (GB - RB) 2. (24) Keenan Allen (SD - WR) 3. (33) Victor Cruz (NYG - WR) 4. (52) Matt Ryan (Atl - QB) 5. (61) Carlos Hyde (SF - RB) 6. (80) Kyle Rudolph (Min - TE) 7. (89) Seattle (Sea - DEF) 8. (108) Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K) 9. (117) Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB) 10. (136) Brian Hartline (Mia - WR) 11. (145) Kenny Stills (NO - WR) 12. (164) Delanie Walker (Ten - TE) 13. (173) Julian Edelman ? (NE - WR) 14. (192) Chris Polk (Phi - RB) 15. (201) Matt Prater (Den - K) 16. (220) New York (NYG - DEF) **Good** Lacy. **Bad** Autodraft. **Huh?** Move along - it is madness to question the ways of Yahoo. **Theme Song** Pick something techno. Techno sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/122 "2014-09-04T17:48:31Z")
**No Use For A Name** 1. (4) Matt Forte (Chi - RB) 2. (25) Vincent Jackson (TB - WR) 3. (32) Andre Johnson (Hou - WR) 4. (53) Shane Vereen ? (NE - RB) 5. (60) Cam Newton (Car - QB) 6. (81) Zach Ertz (Phi - TE) 7. (88) Justin Hunter (Ten - WR) 8. (109) Joique Bell ? (Det - RB) 9. (116) Josh Gordon (Cle - WR) 10. (137) Jordan Matthews (Phi - WR) 11. (144) Aaron Dobson ? (NE - WR) 12. (172) Alex Smith (KC - QB) 13. (193) Alfred Blue (Hou - RB) 14. (199) Chicago (Chi - DEF) 15. (200) Henry Josey (Phi - RB) 16. (221) Jay Feely (Ari - K) **Good** Forte. Jackson. Johnson. Blue in round 13. Vereen as a keeper. Bell as a keeper. Newton, but he’s already dinged up and that scares me this year. Smith is a solid backup option for that risk. **Bad** Johnson (yes, I had him in “good” too. I don’t have any idea how he will go this year. Do you?) Gordon - too soon for that flyer. Waste a round 9 pick for the full season? Madness. **Huh?** Johnson. Why take that chance when White and Hilton were on teh board? Hunter - is he really worth all the early hype? Josey - beccause he is an RB playing for Chip Kelly? Oh, wait - now he’s on the Jaguars practice squad. **Theme Song** [Bloody Well Right](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yH55Cat-VI), Supertramp. All the pieces sound good, but the soul just seems to be missing - doesn’t it. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/123 "2014-09-04T17:49:30Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > If you were going to spend consecutive picks on quarterbacks you should have done it much, much later. Or waited a round for Tony Romo, who is probably going to outproduce both your guys. Your wide receivers are bad, and that’s assuming Maclin returns to his former productivity. Bryce Brown is third on Buffalo’s depth chart; why even roster him? That was my unquestionably bad pick; I was eyeing a couple of RBs there, and then they got taken, and the next thing you know my wife was distracting me, and the clock was ticking. Griffin was the highest guy on my board at that point. I don’t hate the pick, as I think RG3 will bounce back this year. But yeah, I need another RB. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/124 "2014-09-04T18:09:50Z")
**HungryHungryHaruspex** 1. (3) LeSean McCoy (Phi - RB) 2. (26) Rob Gronkowski (NE - TE) 3. (31) Ryan Mathews (SD - RB) 4. (54) Tom Brady (NE - QB) 5. (59) Maurice Jones-Drew (Oak - RB) 6. (82) Alshon Jeffery ? (Chi - WR) 7. (87) Dwayne Bowe (KC - WR) 8. (104) San Francisco (SF - DEF) 9. (110) Alfred Morris ? (Was - RB) 10. (115) Percy Harvin ? (Sea - WR) 11. (138) Carson Palmer (Ari - QB) 12. (143) Ladarius Green (SD - TE) 13. (165) Greg Jennings (Min - WR) 14. (166) Jerick McKinnon (Min - RB) 15. (171) Kansas City (KC - DEF) 16. (194) Mason Crosby (GB - K) **Good** McCoy. Matthews is solid value and fantastic as for RB3. Brady. MJD as RB3 (you BASTARD). Jeffrey as a keeper in 6. Morris as a keeper in 9. Harvin as keeper in 10. Damn - you’re keepers were insane. And 2 picks in Round 8? I might hate you a little bit deep down in my soul. **Bad** Gronk. Too risky in round 2. Your keepers gave you the luxury of risk, but I still don’t like the pick. Overloaded on the ground leaving shaky depth at WR and TE (and with Gronk you actually need TE depth.) Going 4 deep at RB before taking a WR left you with the likes of Bowe and Jennings. Sure - this could be the year that Harvin makes dreams come true, I mean, he’s been saving up for the last 2. **Huh?** You had such value in keepers you could afford to take risks. But Harvin is already risk. Don’t understand why you would take the biggest risk of the draft in round 2 at the expense of reliable WR depth, and then double down with a 4th RB before solidifying the position. **Theme Song** [Piece of My Heart](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJb7cBfrxbo), Janis Joplin. Love it through the pain, this team is scary - but liing on the edge might drag them into an early grave. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/125 "2014-09-04T18:26:16Z")
**Exploding Pancakes** 1. (2) Jamaal Charles (KC - RB) 2. (27) Matthew Stafford (Det - QB) 3. (30) Michael Floyd (Ari - WR) 4. (55) Reggie Wayne (Ind - WR) 5. (58) Stevan Ridley (NE - RB) 6. (83) Devonta Freeman (Atl - RB) 7. (86) DeAndre Hopkins (Hou - WR) 8. (111) Jordan Cameron ? (Cle - TE) 9. (114) Andy Dalton (Cin - QB) 10. (139) Kendall Wright ? (Ten - WR) 11. (142) Zac Stacy ? (StL - RB) 12. (167) Kenbrell Thompkins (NE - WR) 13. (170) Lance Dunbar (Dal - RB) 14. (195) Denver (Den - DEF) 15. (198) Dan Bailey (Dal - K) 16. (223) Latavius Murray (Oak - RB) **Good** Having pick 2. Jordan Cameron as a keeper. Stacy as keep value (though I don;t love him this year). DeAndre Hopkins in a right spot. Dunbar in a value Round 13. **Bad** Stafford in Round 2. But I hope I am wrong because that would be good for Megatron. Ridley in Round 5. Wright as a keeper in Round 10. Floyd as your WR1. Stafford made you do that. Wayne as your WR2 - “ageless” isn’t true, especially when it comes to torn ACL’s. **Huh?** Latavius Murray. I had to olok him up and I still don;t know why you took him. And I;m not sure how drafting 2nd with 2 solid keeper values (and Kendall Wright) you ended up thin at both WR and RB, but you did. It’s a mystery. **Theme Song** [Voodoo Child](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9irsg1vBmq0), Jamaal Hendrix. Sure, the band gets a little thin behind the lead guitar, but it’s fucking Hendrix. If he’s on, the show is gonna rock. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/126 "2014-09-04T18:45:02Z")
**Nine Inch Neils** 1. (1) Adrian Peterson (Min - RB) 2. (28) Giovani Bernard ? (Cin - RB) 3. (29) Larry Fitzgerald (Ari - WR) 4. (56) Marques Colston (NO - WR) 5. (57) Nick Foles (Phi - QB) 6. (84) Dennis Pitta (Bal - TE) 7. (85) Bernard Pierce (Bal - RB) 8. (112) Rueben Randle ? (NYG - WR) 9. (113) Darren Sproles (Phi - RB) 10. (140) Mohamed Sanu (Cin - WR) 11. (141) Ryan Tannehill (Mia - QB) 12. (168) James Starks (GB - RB) 13. (169) James Jones (Oak - WR) 14. (196) Steven Hauschka (Sea - K) 15. (197) Houston (Hou - DEF) 16. (224) Storm Johnson (Jax - RB) **Good** AP and Giovani. Edging out Haruspex for the best RB combo in the league. (though you payed more). **Bad** Your WR. Fitz, Colston, Randle, Sanu - there isn’t a high ceiling among them unless Fitz has found the fountain of youth. But with your RB solid and reliable is probably good enough for you. So only a small sin. Dennis Pita - I know you found yourself at teh tail end of the second E run - that’s a good time to shift positions. But I’m less enthusiastic about Pita than many - he’s JAG so far as I can see. **Huh?** Foles before Cam, Kaep, or Cutler? Lots of folks agree with you this year, but I’m not one of them. Pita - I know you found yourself at the tail end of the second TE run - that’s a good time to shift positions. But I’m less enthusiastic about Pita than many - he’s JAG so far as I can see. **Theme Song** [Running to Stand Still](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eCv0bXFppc), U2. Bono and Edge make a powerful argument, but can the two stud RB strategy still bring down the house? Or has it been relegated to the Classic Rock station. [insert cliche here] ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/127 "2014-09-04T20:07:06Z")
> [@Spiritus\_Mundi](#): > > **Exploding Pancakes** > **Huh?** Latavius Murray. I had to olok him up and I still don;t know why you took him. And I;m not sure how drafting 2nd with 2 solid keeper values (and Kendall Wright) you ended up thin at both WR and RB, but you did. It’s a mystery. First, thanks for doing this. Secondly, I think this is about a good a pick as a last pick can get. Murray is a possible beast, situated behind two old, injury-prone RBs in Oakland. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/128 "2014-09-08T13:06:15Z")
Guess I’d better finish these. I’ll try not to let Week 1 hindsight creep in. > [@](#): > > **Ottoman Empire** > > 1. (8) Demaryius Thomas (Den - WR) > 2. (21) Jordy Nelson (GB - WR) > 3. (36) Rashad Jennings (NYG - RB) > 4. (49) Lamar Miller (Mia - RB) > 5. (64) Ray Rice (Bal - RB) > 6. (77) Mike Wallace (Mia - WR) > 7. (92) Tony Romo (Dal - QB) > 8. (105) Andre Williams (NYG - RB) > 9. (120) Markus Wheaton (Pit - WR) > 10. (133) Johnny Manziel (Cle - QB) > 11. (148) Andrew Hawkins (Cle - WR) > 12. (161) Ronnie Hillman (Den - RB) > 13. (176) Andre Holmes (Oak - WR) > 14. (189) Julius Thomas ? (Den - TE) > 15. (204) Baltimore (Bal - DEF) > 16. (217) Jerricho Cotchery (Car - WR) **Yay!** : Studly #1 and #2 wideouts and Wallace and Wheaton have legit WR2 potential themselves. Romo is a perenially undervalued fantasy quarterback (and real-life QB, for that matter) and waiting on him let you build up real depth at the other skill spots. Obviously Julius Thomas in the dying rounds is almost unfair. Probably smart to handcuff Rashad Jennings at a relatively low cost, because it also gives you a keeper option. Rice is probably being downgraded too heavily this season and he’s a nice choice in the fifth. **Boo!** : I would have used one of those top picks on a running back, because your backfield is _full_ of question marks. Johnny Manziel? Seriously? In a meaningful round? He is going to bust hard and that’s assuming he even sees much of the field this year. Wasted pick. Also you forgot to draft a kicker. I assume this was deliberate, but what’s the point? **Bottom line** : Lots of potential here, but you’re going to need something slightly unexpected to happen for any of your RBs to even be in the RB2 class (Jennings keeping a bell cow role, Miller keeping his job, Rice avoiding an RBBC.) C+. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/129 "2014-09-08T13:16:34Z")
> [@](#): > > **Carcosa Yellow Kings** > > 1. (9) Dez Bryant (Dal - WR) > 2. (20) Drew Brees (NO - QB) > 3. (37) C.J. Spiller ? (Buf - RB) > 4. (48) Ben Tate ? (Cle - RB) > 5. (65) Pierre Thomas (NO - RB) > 6. (76) Sammy Watkins (Buf - WR) > 7. (93) Fred Jackson (Buf - RB) > 8. (121) Cecil Shorts III (Jax - WR) > 9. (132) Knile Davis (KC - RB) > 10. (149) Doug Baldwin (Sea - WR) > 11. (160) Jonathan Stewart ? (Car - RB) > 12. (177) Cincinnati (Cin - DEF) > 13. (188) Antonio Gates (SD - TE) > 14. (205) Eric Ebron (Det - TE) > 15. (216) Blake Bortles (Jax - QB) > 16. (222) Matt Bryant (Atl - K) **Yay!** : Brees is a matchup-proof starter who allows you to go “light” on a backup. Which means you get to spend a late pick on a guy like Bortles. Great keeper potential. I like the RBx3 approach in rounds three to five, but you actually kept Tate a good seven picks ahead of his ADP. I don’t really like the Jackson pick; he and Spiller aren’t so good that you can start them both, and he’s too expensive as a handcuff. I don’t like Ebron as a starter at all; rookie tight ends very rarely produce. As a keeper/backup to Gates, sure. Bryant is a great fantasy kicker, for what that’s worth. **Boo!** : Other than Brees and Bryant and maybe Spiller, _nobody_ on this roster scares me as a future opponent (and even Bryant has never posted a truly elite season). It’s basically just a bunch of JAGs. It’s almost like you drafted for next year. **Bottom line** : This team is… fluffy. If you win a game, it will be because Brees had a five-TD day or everyone else had their best game of the season. C-. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/130 "2014-09-08T13:40:47Z")
> [@](#): > > **Omnipotents** > > 1. (10) Marshawn Lynch (Sea - RB) > 2. (19) Brandon Marshall (Chi - WR) > 3. (38) Pierre Garcon ? (Was - WR) > 4. (47) Chris Johnson (NYJ - RB) > 5. (66) Steven Jackson (Atl - RB) > 6. (75) Russell Wilson (Sea - QB) > 7. (94) Greg Olsen ? (Car - TE) > 8. (103) Danny Amendola (NE - WR) > 9. (122) Chris Ivory (NYJ - RB) > 10. (131) Martellus Bennett (Chi - TE) > 11. (150) Miles Austin (Cle - WR) > 12. (159) Donald Brown (SD - RB) > 13. (178) Joe Flacco (Bal - QB) > 14. (187) New England (NE - DEF) > 15. (206) Jeff Janis (GB - WR) > 16. (215) Robbie Gould (Chi - K) **Yay!** : I’m a little down on Lynch this year, but not as much as everyone else. He’s a steal at this point in the round. Russell Wilson is a solid starter and decent value in the sixth. You went RB-heavy as usual, which as you know is a strategy near and dear to my heart. Bennett is a tremendous value in the 10th round. Brown could very well be the Chargers’ starter by this time next year. Chris Ivory is arguably the steal of the draft. **Boo!** : Unlike the guy who was drafting for next year, you seem to have drafted for three years _ago_. Steven Jackson is one million years old and will be retired ere long. Unfortunately, the person you’re stealing from with the Ivory pick is yourself, because you also have CJ2OLD. [Future RNATB: they both looked pretty good yesterday, though]. Don’t know why you bothered drafting Flacco. If you need a backup, there will be equal or better talent on waivers. Amendola is a waste; he’s usually broken and he was unproductive last year even when healthy. NE has too many receivers to trust any beyond Gronk and Edelman. If Miles Austin couldn’t do anything with Romo’s passes, he’s not going to do anything with CLE QB’s. As good a value as Bennett is, you don’t need him with Greg Olsen already on board, and he’s not quite valuable enough to make worthwhile trade bait. Garcon was good last year but dependent on volume, which won’t be available with D-Jax and a (possibly) healthy Jordan Reed on board. You could have had Roddy White with the pick (assuming you hadn’t made Garcon a keeper.) **Bottom line** : Like the previous team, there’s nothing scary here except Lynch and maybe a few cases of osteoporosis. Your draft was obviously hurt by the lack of keeper quality, and… well, you don’t look to be in much better shape for next season. C-. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/131 "2014-09-08T13:48:37Z")
> [@](#): > > **Moridwon (Hamlet)** > > 1. (11) DeMarco Murray (Dal - RB) > 2. (18) Julio Jones (Atl - WR) > 3. (39) Roddy White (Atl - WR) > 4. (46) Trent Richardson (Ind - RB) > 5. (67) Randall Cobb ? (GB - WR) > 6. (74) Terrance Williams (Dal - WR) > 7. (95) Eric Decker (NYJ - WR) > 8. (102) Charles Clay (Mia - TE) > 9. (123) Philip Rivers ? (SD - QB) > 10. (130) Shonn Greene (Ten - RB) > 11. (151) Eli Manning (NYG - QB) > 12. (158) Jarrett Boykin (GB - WR) > 13. (179) Jacquizz Rodgers (Atl - RB) > 14. (186) Dwayne Allen (Ind - TE) > 15. (207) Indianapolis (Ind - DEF) > 16. (214) Blair Walsh (Min - K) **Yay!** : Good quarterback, great wideouts, one good RB. After that, it gets a little hazy. Decker is a superb value where you got him. **Boo!** : Your RB situation is pretty dire even if Richardson improves. If he doesn’t, it’s terrible. The Falcons can support two productive wideouts but I would be really worried about having the 1 and 1A guys from the same team. One Matt Ryan elbow strain and you are effed. You also have two Packers wideouts, so now things are just weird. Terrance Williams is a huge luxury pick considering you’d already taken three WRs in the first five rounds. Given that, Decker is just… well, I don’t know what, but he’s never going to see the field for you. The Indy defense is without Robert Mathis for four weeks, plays Denver in Week 1 and isn’t good anyway. Why? Jacquizz Rodgers is NAG: Not Even A Guy. He’s strictly a third down back and one who’s already shown us what he is: not startable. **Bottom line** : I usually like your drafts, but you totally went off the WR deep end here. Maybe you are planning some trades, but they’d better be awesome because your draft sucks. F. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/132 "2014-09-08T13:57:04Z")
> [@](#): > > **Fourth & Nineteen** > > 1. (12) A.J. Green (Cin - WR) > 2. (17) Doug Martin (TB - RB) > 3. (40) DeSean Jackson (Was - WR) > 4. (45) Vernon Davis (SF - TE) > 5. (68) Jay Cutler (Chi - QB) > 6. (73) Golden Tate (Det - WR) > 7. (96) Mark Ingram (NO - RB) > 8. (101) Khiry Robinson (NO - RB) > 9. (124) Knowshon Moreno (Mia - RB) > 10. (129) Anquan Boldin (SF - WR) > 11. (152) Jonathan Grimes (Hou - RB) > 12. (157) Benny Cunningham (StL - RB) > 13. (180) Tim Wright (NE - TE) > 14. (185) Buffalo (Buf - DEF) > 15. (208) Geno Smith (NYJ - QB) > 16. (213) Phil Dawson (SF - K) **Yay!** : Now this is more like it. Balance in terms of positional groups, balance in terms of risk and reward. You also have a questionable RB2 situation but at least your RB2BC options have potential. I’m down on D-Jax this year but I like him better than Garcon and as a #2 wideout he’s a nice thing to have. Tate could be huge. Davis is great and I was really hoping he’d drop to me in Round 5 (since my 4th rounder was a keeper.) Boldin is a great value where you took him though he offers zero keeper appeal at age 70. I even like the Geno Smith pick, given the round. **Boo!** : Cutler, Cutler, Cutler. In the time it took me to type that he threw two interceptions. Yeah, yeah, new Monsters of the Midway, blah blah. He’s still Jay Cutler, the human question mark. I would rather have any of three or four quarterbacks still on the board. If he succeeds, you might win the league. If he fails, you won’t make the playoffs. Given his risk level, you probably should have done more than Geno Smith as a backup. **Bottom line** : I can’t downgrade too much just because I hate the guy you have at one position (especially since there really aren’t that many guys you missed out on in the next round.) B. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/133 "2014-09-08T14:03:43Z")
> [@](#): > > **Baltimore Weirdos** > > 1. (13) Andre Ellington (Ari - RB) > 2. (16) Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB) > 3. (41) Frank Gore (SF - RB) > 4. (44) Torrey Smith (Bal - WR) > 5. (69) Wes Welker (Den - WR) > 6. (72) Jason Witten (Dal - TE) > 7. (97) Jeremy Hill (Cin - RB) > 8. (100) Mike Evans (TB - WR) > 9. (125) Ahmad Bradshaw (Ind - RB) > 10. (128) Steve Smith Sr. (Bal - WR) > 11. (153) Heath Miller (Pit - TE) > 12. (156) Arizona (Ari - DEF) > 13. (181) Mike Williams (Buf - WR) > 14. (184) Justin Tucker (Bal - K) > 15. (209) Matt Cassel (Min - QB) > 16. (212) Marlon Brown (Bal - WR) **Yay!** : You avoided drafting any Ravens until Round 4. That must have been physically painful for you. You have Aaron Rodgers, and you got him in the second round. That must have been sweet. You have Jeremy Hill (cheap). Bradshaw is an interesting flier prospect who has double value since Trent Richardson could get hurt _or_ suck very badly. I don’t see Mike Evans doing much this year but if he does he’ll be beastly. **Boo!** : Outside Rodgers, it’s mostly question marks. Ellington is a mirage, a projection that will never actually exist as a #1 RB. Gore is 90 years old. You have three Ravens wideouts; have you never seen your own team play? You don’t really need Heath Miller with Witten on board, though he’s a nice value at his draft spot. You don’t really need to roster a second QB if you have Rodgers, at least not one like Cassel who will be available on waivers anyway. What will you do at wideout/flex while Welker is out? **Bottom line** : I usually dislike your drafts, and I am usually wrong. But this year I’m not. D+. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/134 "2014-09-08T14:14:13Z")
> [@](#): > > **Varlos’ Zzzzzzz** > > 1. (14) Peyton Manning (Den - QB) > 2. (15) Arian Foster (Hou - RB) > 3. (42) T.Y. Hilton (Ind - WR) > 4. (43) Bishop Sankey (Ten - RB) > 5. (70) Emmanuel Sanders (Den - WR) > 6. (71) Brandin Cooks (NO - WR) > 7. (98) DeAngelo Williams (Car - RB) > 8. (99) James White (NE - RB) > 9. (126) Riley Cooper (Phi - WR) > 10. (127) Tyler Eifert (Cin - TE) > 11. (154) St. Louis (StL - DEF) > 12. (155) Brian Quick (StL - WR) > 13. (182) Ryan Fitzpatrick (Hou - QB) > 14. (183) Donte Moncrief (Ind - WR) > 15. (210) Adam Vinatieri (Ind - K) > 16. (211) Garrett Graham (Hou - TE) **Yay!** : Peyton Manning with the final pick of the first round. That’s just unfair. Followed up with the best pick of the second round. Emmanuel Sanders is an annoyingly good fifth rounder. Sankey in the fourth is a very fair value [or at least seemed to be before yesterday - Future RNATB]. White, Cooper and Eifert are all good values. Garrett Graham is a brilliant value pick; he’s got real potential with Owen Daniels out of the picture. **Boo!** : TY Hilton went at a full round too early - his average landing spot is the beginning of the fifth. You could have had Colston or Vernon Davis instead, who are both better bets to score 10+ touchdowns and will likely be about as productive in yardage terms. You have zero RB depth, and you really should have handcuffed Foster in the late rounds when this became obvious. You didn’t really need to draft Fitzpatrick; he’s just there for the bye, and again there will be equal options on waivers. **Bottom line** : I love the first two picks and most of the middle ones, but there are some bad ones sprinkled in (particularly towards the end). When you draft Manning, the rest of your team just has to produce at a marginal level. What you want is no-risk guys, and forget ceiling. Instead you have a bunch of risky high-ceiling guys, except Williams. C-. _Here endeth the draft review._ ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/135 "2014-09-08T23:40:24Z")
Varlos and I both had a crappy week, but if I can get 21 more points between Stafford (looking good) and Floyd, I can still pull this one out. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/136 "2014-09-09T02:10:56Z")
Good game from Stafford. 70 yards or a TD from Floyd should do it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/137 "2014-09-10T22:50:30Z")
Not bad for an autodrafted team. Sorry that my attention is taken with other matters, I’m finalizing a divorce and starting with a new girlfriend. Not much of an excuse but it’s better than being dead. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/138 "2014-09-11T20:15:56Z")
I’d say that’s a pretty good excuse, actually. By the way, don’t forget to check your lineups tonight, everyone. I always forget about the Thursday night games for the first few weeks of the season, and every year it costs me a game somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/139 "2014-09-15T18:44:50Z")
OK, what football god did I offend? Saturday night, things looked good for my team - Doug Martin was listed as questionable but indications were positive. Sunday morning, Martin is ruled out. There goes my #1 RB. Was able to swap someone in, but not a good start. Then, in the first quarter of the early games: [ul] [li]Knowshon Moreno gets hurt on his first carry, out for the game. #3 RB gone. OK, it’s Knowshon Moreno, it’s probably more newsworthy when he doesn’t get hurt, but…[/li][li]Desean Jackson gets hurt, leaves the games with one catch for 19 yards. #2 WR gone.[/li][li]AJ Green gets hurt and leaves without a catch. #1 WR gone.[/li][/ul] At that point I pretty much gave up on my team for the weekend. Turns out while I lost big time to **Munch** , I actually posted a decent score, thanks to Jay Cutler and the Buffalo DEF. This morning, I found out in addition that Mark Ingram, who had a good game, is probably out a month (#2 RB gone), and that Vernon Davis left his game in the 4th quarter and may be out for a few games as well. Can I sacrifice Geno Smith to whoever I offended? And maybe get one or two of these players back for next week? ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989/140 "2014-09-15T18:51:58Z")
Damn, dude. [Your roster](http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/114128/3) is fun to look at, anyway. That’s your top 3 RBs, along with your top WR and TE. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989.md?page=8)