# He Hate Me FF keeper league - year 8 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 30, 2010, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576 "2010-07-30T13:45:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/1 "2010-07-30T13:45:21Z")
**[Link to Yahoo League](http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/10827)** **Schedule** Offseason Trade Deadline: Monday 8/30/10 Keeper Declaration: Tuesday 8/31/10 Live Draft: Monday 9/6/10 (Labor Day) at 10:15pm Eastern **Keeper Rules** 1. You can only keep a maximum of 3 players. 2. You can only keep players drafted after the third round. (Fourth rounders or later only.) 3. A player can only be kept a maximum of twice. (Making 3 total roster years.) 4. A kept player incures a two round penalty. (e.g: drafted in the 6th, kept in the 4th.) **Hall of Fame** Year 1 winner: mouthbreather Year 2 winner: Spiritus Mundi Year 3 winner: Spiritus Mundi Year 4 winner: The Mad Hermit Year 5 winner: Nurse Carmen Year 6 winner: Weirddave Year 7 winner: VarlosZ **Draft Order, Year 8** 1. Munch 2. Really Not All That Bright 3. Nurse Carmen 4. Wilson 5. Ellis Dee 6. Spiritus Mundi 7. The Mad Hermit 8. Jules Andre 9. Bababooey 10. Hamlet 11. Weirddave 12. furt 13. Omniscient 14. VarlosZ **League History** **2003 Season 1** [The SDMB “He Hate Me, He Hate Me Not” Football League](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=199147) **2004 Season 2** [Upcoming SDMB fantasy football league…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=251453) [He Hate Me Keeper League Mid-Season Review](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=286234) [SDMB H.H.M. Keeper League Rules Ballot.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=290993) **2005 Season 3** [Yahoo fantasy football signup now open…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=324132) [He Hate Me Keeper League Mid-Season Draft Review 2006](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=342937) Season wrap-up [post=7136352]here[/post] **2006 Season 4** [He Hate Me FF keeper league](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=374061) Season wrap-up [post=8131857]here[/post] **2007 Season 5** [He Hate Me So Bad FF keeper league](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=423632) Season wrap-up [post=9386723]here[/post] **2008 Season 6** [He Hate Me Some Me FF Keeper League](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=465946) **2009 Season 7** [He Hate Me FF keeper league - yr 7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=525636) **Eligible Keepers** Players are listed with the round they were drafted last year. Subtract two rounds for keeping this year. Players listed as “kept last year” are in their final year of eligibility. NOTE: Bolded players are NOT recommendations about who you should keep. I bold interesting prospects so that everyone else can see them at a glance. 1. Off Constantly (Munch) Steve Slaton (Hou - RB) _4th round_ - kept last year Donald Brown (Ind - RB) _5th round_ Julius Jones (Sea - RB) _6th round_ Jamaal Charles (KC - RB) _7th round_ **Jay Cutler** (Chi - QB) _8th round_ Mark Sanchez (NYJ - QB) _11th round_ Chris Brown (Hou - RB) _15th round_ 2. 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) Braylon Edwards (NYJ - WR) _4th round_ **Matt Schaub** (Hou - QB) _6th round_ - kept last year Eli Manning (NYG - QB) _8th round_ **Steve Smith** (NYG - WR) _9th round_ **Percy Harvin** (Min - WR) _11th round_ Carnell Williams (TB - RB) _12th round_ Glen Coffee (SF - RB) _14th round_ 3. RealCarmenOfGenius (Nurse Carmen) Anthony Gonzalez (Ind - WR) _4th round_ Kellen Winslow (TB - TE) _5th round_ **Cedric Benson** (Cin - RB) _6th round_ Fred Jackson (Buf - RB) _7th round_ Joe Flacco (Bal - QB) _9th round_ - kept last year Minnesota (Min - DEF) _10th round_ Eddie Royal (Den - WR) _11th round_ - kept last year **Heath Miller** (Pit - TE) _12th round_ Brian Robiskie (Cle - WR) _13th round_ Jaymar Johnson (Min - WR) _16th round_ 4. Fourth & Nineteen (Wilson) Tony Romo (Dal - QB) _4th round_ Willie Parker (Was - RB) _5th round_ Kevin Walter (Hou - WR) _6th round_ Baltimore (Bal - DEF) _7th round_ Zach Miller (Oak - TE) _9th round_ Kyle Orton (Den - QB) _10th round_ Justin Fargas (Oak - RB) _14th round_ 5. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee) LenDale White (Sea - RB) _4th round_ Lee Evans (Buf - WR) _5th round_ Steve Breaston (Ari - WR) _6th round_ **Brett Favre** (Min - QB) _8th round_ **New York** (NYJ - DEF) _10th round_ Derrick Ward (TB - RB) _11th round_ - kept last year **Hakeem Nicks** (NYG - WR) _12th round_ Trent Edwards (Buf - QB) _13th round_ - kept last year Ramses Barden (NYG - WR) _15th round_ 6. Spiritus Mundane (Spiritus Mundi) Tony Gonzalez (Atl - TE) _4th round_ Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K) _6th round_ **DeSean Jackson** (Phi - WR) _8th round_ - kept last year Matt Cassel (KC - QB) _9th round_ Nate Burleson (Det - WR) _12th round_ 7. Crabby Hermits (The Mad Hermit) Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB) _4th round_ Santana Moss (Was - WR) _5th round_ Donald Driver (GB - WR) _6th round_ Domenik Hixon (NYG - WR) _7th round_ Visanthe Shiancoe (Min - TE) _8th round_ Ricky Williams (Mia - RB) _10th round_ **New England** (NE - DEF) _14th round_ BenJarvus Green-Ellis (NE - RB) _15th round_ Mewelde Moore (Pit - RB) _16th round_ 8. Quentin’s JAMmers (Jules Andre) Knowshon Moreno (Den - RB) _4th round_ Donnie Avery (StL - WR) _5th round_ **LeSean McCoy** (Phi - RB) _6th round_ David Garrard (Jac - QB) _8th round_ Nate Washington (Ten - WR) _9th round_ Tashard Choice (Dal - RB) _12th round_ Washington (Was - DEF) _14th round_ 9. DrewBrees’Birthmark (Bababooey) Antonio Bryant (Cin - WR) _4th round_ Pittsburgh (Pit - DEF) _5th round_ Kurt Warner (Ari - QB) _6th round_ - kept last year Rob Bironas (Ten - K) _7th round_ Tim Hightower (Ari - RB) _8th round_ - kept last year Willis McGahee (Bal - RB) _9th round_ Deion Branch (Sea - WR) _10th round_ T.J. Duckett (Sea - RB) _11th round_ Dallas (Dal - DEF) _13th round_ Anthony Fasano (Mia - TE) _14th round_ Shaun Hill (Det - QB) _15th round_ John Kasay (Car - K) _16th round_ 10. Moridwon (Hamlet) Carson Palmer (Cin - QB) _4th round_ Beanie Wells (Ari - RB) _5th round_ Matt Hasselbeck (Sea - QB) _6th round_ Josh Morgan (SF - WR) _9th round_ Jeremy Shockey (NO - TE) _10th round_ Chaz Schilens (Oak - WR) _15th round_ Ladell Betts (Was - RB) _16th round_ 11. Baltimore Weirdos (Weirddave) Ray Rice (Bal - RB) _4th round_ Santonio Holmes (NYJ - WR) _5th round_ Philadelphia (Phi - DEF) _7th round_ John Carlson (Sea - TE) _8th round_ Sammy Morris (NE - RB) _9th round_ David Akers (Phi - K) _10th round_ **Miles Austin** (Dal - WR) _11th round_ Mark Clayton (Bal - WR) _12th round_ 12. Fightin’ Quakers (furt) Donovan McNabb (Was - QB) _4th round_ **Rashard Mendenhall** (Pit - RB) _5th round_ Darren Sproles (SD - RB) _12th round_ - kept last year Jeremy Maclin (Phi - WR) _13th round_ 13. Omni’s Omnipotents (Omniscient) **Chris Johnson** (Ten - RB) _5th round_ - kept last year Jerricho Cotchery (NYJ - WR) _6th round_ **Philip Rivers** (SD - QB) _7th round_ - kept last year Ahmad Bradshaw (NYG - RB) _8th round_ **Michael Crabtree** (SF - WR) _9th round_ Matthew Stafford (Det - QB) _10th round_ Laurence Maroney (NE - RB) _12th round_ 14. Varlos’ Zzzzzzz (VarlosZ) Roddy White (Atl - WR) _4th round_ - kept last year Felix Jones (Dal - RB) _5th round_ **Aaron Rodgers** (GB - QB) _6th round_ - kept last year Ted Ginn Jr. (SF - WR) _8th round_ Dustin Keller (NYJ - TE) _9th round_ Matt Leinart (Ari - QB) _13th round_ **Mario Manningham** (NYG - WR) _15th round_ **NOTICE: I just now spent several hours compiling the eligible keepers lists by cross-referencing last season’s Final Rosters and Draft Results. This means if you traded for someone, they won’t be in your list. It is up to everyone to let me know what potential keepers you traded for so they can be added to your list.** Everyone should check their final rosters from last year in the league overview page in Yahoo. There’s a dropdown in the top right to pick which season you want to look at. From there you’ll be able to see both Final Rosters and Draft Results. There are some big names that should be on these lists that aren’t, so don’t let your sweet keepers fall through the cracks! ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/2 "2010-07-30T13:46:21Z")
Refresher course for offseason trading: (Mostly quotes from last years’ thread.) All players listed in the “eligible keepers” lists can be kept regardless of who owns their rights at the deadline. (But they can only be kept by whomever ends up owning the rights.) That means if you have four excellent keeper prospects, you can trade one away for picks instead of just losing him. (Since you can only keep three players.) The three year term is tied to the NFL player, not the fantasy owner. If you acquire a guy who was kept last year, you only get to keep him once. (This year.) You don’t have to keep anyone. Meaning if you acquire the rights to a keeper through a trade and then later decide to not keep him, it doesn’t have any effect on you. Right now your list of eligible keepers is simply the list of players you are allowed to keep. You can grow or shrink that list however you please during the trading period. Once the trading period ends, whatever players are left on your list, you can keep 0, 1, 2, or 3 of them. You are in no way obligated to keep a player you traded for. **For any keepers, if you have a high draft pick in that round, trade down for a lower one getting change back. That change back is free money, since your draft pick in that round will go toward the keeper no matter what.** If you don’t understand this, ask for clarification. This is the primary use of offseason trading. Offseason trading goes through the end of the month. Once the trading period is officially over, only then do we declare who we actually want to keep. A week after that is the live draft, during which there is no official trading. Obviously I have no authority to prevent people making side deals during the live draft, but I would rather that doesn’t happen because if a problem arises, I would have to arbitrate. And I’ll be busy doing other things during the live draft. So not prohibited, but discouraged. The official timeline is at the top of the OP, but if people have last minute deals they want to push through I’ll extend the deadlines. I will not rules-lawyer you. The deadlines are a matter of convenience for me, to ensure I have plenty of time to get the bookeeping done during that busy week. (Several SDMB drafts are scheduled for that week.) If anyone doesn’t submit their keepers on time I will pursue them up until the night before the draft via PM and/or email to give them every opportunity to keep who they want. Please work with me, though, to make my job easier. NOTICE: I personally require that everyone always has exactly 16 draft picks. So any trades involving draft picks must send an equal number of picks both ways. When you reach a trade agreement, email or PM me the details and I’ll publish them for you. Do not post them yourself, as they may be disallowed and you’ll have tipped your hand to the rest of the league. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/3 "2010-07-30T13:47:25Z")
Here’s the [fantasy trade calculator](http://footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm), plus the resulting draft pick value chart: ```auto 1- 1 ( 1): 1889 5- 1 ( 57): 519 9- 1 (113): 111 13- 1 (169): 32 1- 2 ( 2): 1823 5- 2 ( 58): 510 9- 2 (114): 107 13- 2 (170): 31 1- 3 ( 3): 1759 5- 3 ( 59): 500 9- 3 (115): 103 13- 3 (171): 29 1- 4 ( 4): 1699 5- 4 ( 60): 491 9- 4 (116): 100 13- 4 (172): 27 1- 5 ( 5): 1642 5- 5 ( 61): 482 9- 5 (117): 97 13- 5 (173): 25 1- 6 ( 6): 1587 5- 6 ( 62): 473 9- 6 (118): 94 13- 6 (174): 23 1- 7 ( 7): 1535 5- 7 ( 63): 464 9- 7 (119): 91 13- 7 (175): 21 1- 8 ( 8): 1485 5- 8 ( 64): 455 9- 8 (120): 88 13- 8 (176): 20 1- 9 ( 9): 1438 5- 9 ( 65): 446 9- 9 (121): 86 13- 9 (177): 18 1-10 (10): 1393 5-10 ( 66): 437 9-10 (122): 83 13-10 (178): 16 1-11 (11): 1351 5-11 ( 67): 428 9-11 (123): 81 13-11 (179): 14 1-12 (12): 1310 5-12 ( 68): 419 9-12 (124): 79 13-12 (180): 12 1-13 (13): 1272 5-13 ( 69): 410 9-13 (125): 77 13-13 (181): 10 1-14 (14): 1235 5-14 ( 70): 402 9-14 (126): 75 13-14 (182): 9 2- 1 (15): 1200 6- 1 ( 71): 393 10- 1 (127): 73 14- 1 (183): 7 2- 2 (16): 1167 6- 2 ( 72): 384 10- 2 (128): 72 14- 2 (184): 6 2- 3 (17): 1135 6- 3 ( 73): 375 10- 3 (129): 70 14- 3 (185): 4 2- 4 (18): 1105 6- 4 ( 74): 367 10- 4 (130): 69 14- 4 (186): 3 2- 5 (19): 1076 6- 5 ( 75): 358 10- 5 (131): 67 14- 5 (187): 2 2- 6 (20): 1049 6- 6 ( 76): 350 10- 6 (132): 66 14- 6 (188): 1 2- 7 (21): 1023 6- 7 ( 77): 341 10- 7 (133): 65 14- 7 (189): 1 2- 8 (22): 998 6- 8 ( 78): 333 10- 8 (134): 64 14- 8 (190): 1 2- 9 (23): 975 6- 9 ( 79): 325 10- 9 (135): 63 14- 9 (191): 0 2-10 (24): 952 6-10 ( 80): 316 10-10 (136): 62 14-10 (192): 0 2-11 (25): 931 6-11 ( 81): 308 10-11 (137): 61 14-11 (193): 0 2-12 (26): 910 6-12 ( 82): 300 10-12 (138): 61 14-12 (194): 0 2-13 (27): 890 6-13 ( 83): 292 10-13 (139): 60 14-13 (195): 0 2-14 (28): 872 6-14 ( 84): 284 10-14 (140): 59 14-14 (196): 0 3- 1 (29): 853 7- 1 ( 85): 276 11- 1 (141): 59 15- 1 (197): 0 3- 2 (30): 836 7- 2 ( 86): 268 11- 2 (142): 58 15- 2 (198): 0 3- 3 (31): 820 7- 3 ( 87): 261 11- 3 (143): 57 15- 3 (199): 0 3- 4 (32): 804 7- 4 ( 88): 253 11- 4 (144): 57 15- 4 (200): 0 3- 5 (33): 788 7- 5 ( 89): 246 11- 5 (145): 56 15- 5 (201): 0 3- 6 (34): 773 7- 6 ( 90): 239 11- 6 (146): 56 15- 6 (202): 0 3- 7 (35): 759 7- 7 ( 91): 231 11- 7 (147): 55 15- 7 (203): 0 3- 8 (36): 745 7- 8 ( 92): 224 11- 8 (148): 55 15- 8 (204): 0 3- 9 (37): 732 7- 9 ( 93): 217 11- 9 (149): 54 15- 9 (205): 0 3-10 (38): 719 7-10 ( 94): 211 11-10 (150): 53 15-10 (206): 0 3-11 (39): 707 7-11 ( 95): 204 11-11 (151): 53 15-11 (207): 0 3-12 (40): 694 7-12 ( 96): 197 11-12 (152): 52 15-12 (208): 0 3-13 (41): 682 7-13 ( 97): 191 11-13 (153): 52 15-13 (209): 0 3-14 (42): 671 7-14 ( 98): 185 11-14 (154): 51 15-14 (210): 0 4- 1 (43): 660 8- 1 ( 99): 179 12- 1 (155): 50 16- 1 (211): 0 4- 2 (44): 648 8- 2 (100): 173 12- 2 (156): 49 16- 2 (212): 0 4- 3 (45): 638 8- 3 (101): 167 12- 3 (157): 48 16- 3 (213): 0 4- 4 (46): 627 8- 4 (102): 161 12- 4 (158): 47 16- 4 (214): 0 4- 5 (47): 616 8- 5 (103): 156 12- 5 (159): 46 16- 5 (215): 0 4- 6 (48): 606 8- 6 (104): 151 12- 6 (160): 45 16- 6 (216): 0 4- 7 (49): 596 8- 7 (105): 146 12- 7 (161): 44 16- 7 (217): 0 4- 8 (50): 586 8- 8 (106): 141 12- 8 (162): 43 16- 8 (218): 0 4- 9 (51): 576 8- 9 (107): 136 12- 9 (163): 42 16- 9 (219): 0 4-10 (52): 566 8-10 (108): 131 12-10 (164): 40 16-10 (220): 0 4-11 (53): 557 8-11 (109): 127 12-11 (165): 39 16-11 (221): 0 4-12 (54): 547 8-12 (110): 122 12-12 (166): 37 16-12 (222): 0 4-13 (55): 538 8-13 (111): 118 12-13 (167): 36 16-13 (223): 0 4-14 (56): 528 8-14 (112): 114 12-14 (168): 34 16-14 (224): 0 ``` ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/4 "2010-07-30T13:52:07Z")
We have 11 signed into the yahoo league so far. Currently missing: Munch Jules Andre Bababooey First alternate: Jimmy Chitwood If we still need more, first come first serve. Sending out emails and PMs now. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/5 "2010-07-30T14:19:56Z")
Matt Schaub is officially on the block. He’ll cost you a swap of second-round picks\*, and he’ll cost you your fourth round pick (I kept him in the sixth last year). Also, I scored the third most points last year and finished sixth. Be afraid. Be very afraaaaaid. \*Assuming swapping _your_ second round pick is worth more than a spot or two to me. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/6 "2010-07-30T16:57:40Z")
I also have the rights to Vernon Davis, who was drafted in the 14th and can be kept in the 12th. That gives me four keepers for sale. I’ll listen to offers on the following. Looking to move up in odd-numbered rounds. Rashard Mendenhall can be kept in the 3rd Darren Sproles in the 10th Jeremy Maclin in the 11th Vernon Davis in the 12th ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/7 "2010-07-30T19:28:51Z")
My 5th round pick (first overall) is on the table for a low 5th round pick. I’m also willing to trade away all even-round picks for those looking to maximize keeper values. I’m also willing to trade away the top pick for the right offer. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/8 "2010-07-30T20:17:58Z")
I will swap my (#2) 9th and 11th-round picks for peanuts, since I’ll be using those for keepers. Prefer to swap them for a higher pick in the 6th or 8th. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/9 "2010-07-30T21:40:40Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I will swap my (#2) 9th and 11th-round picks for peanuts, since I’ll be using those for keepers. Prefer to swap them for a higher pick in the 6th or 8th. I think you mean your 7th and 9th? ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/10 "2010-07-30T21:54:28Z")
Howdy folks! Checking in. It’s finally football time eh? Couldn’t come soon enough. Added to my keeper list are Matt Ryan (kept last year by **Munch** in the 12th) and Brent Celek (drafted last year by **Munch** in the 14th), both of whom I traded for last year. Knowshon Moreno (drafted in the 4th) and LeSean McCoy (drafted in the 6th) are both available for trade, though I’m only looking to move one of the two. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/11 "2010-07-30T23:48:16Z")
> [@furt](#): > > I also have the rights to Vernon Davis, who was drafted in the 14th and can be kept in the 12th. Any chance you remember who you traded away to get him? Hamlet drafted him, so he may be missing a keeper too. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/12 "2010-07-31T00:52:15Z")
Everyone is in except **Bababooey**. I just did a quick search to see if he is still an active poster, and it looks like he is (albeit sporadically) but [he’s having computer problems](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=572220). I’ll give him some time to get everything sorted out, but longer than a week will start to get problematic. Unfortunate timing. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/13 "2010-07-31T01:55:40Z")
> [@Wilson](#): > > > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > > I will swap my (#2) 9th and 11th-round picks for peanuts, since I’ll be using those for keepers. Prefer to swap them for a higher pick in the 6th or 8th. > > I think you mean your 7th and 9th? Yeah. The +2 thing always screws me up. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/14 "2010-08-02T15:51:22Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > > [@furt](#): > > > > I also have the rights to Vernon Davis, who was drafted in the 14th and can be kept in the 12th. > > Any chance you remember who you traded away to get him? Hamlet drafted him, so he may be missing a keeper too. Sorry, don’t. I think Mike Walker may have been involved, but he wasn’t drafted. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/15 "2010-08-02T18:00:03Z")
**furt** and I have agreed to swap our 9th and 10th round picks (ie., he moves up in the 9th, I move up in the 10th). ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/16 "2010-08-02T18:18:02Z")
furt and I have agreed to a trade as well: I get Rashard Mendenhall and Vernon Davis. furt gets Jamaal Charles. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/17 "2010-08-02T18:19:48Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > furt and I have agreed to a trade as well: > > I get Rashard Mendenhall and Vernon Davis. > furt gets Jamaal Charles. Whoa … I said I wanted to discuss a trade, as well as the other offer – but you’re jumping the gun a bit. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/18 "2010-08-02T18:21:48Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > **furt** and I have agreed to swap our 9th and 10th round picks (ie., he moves up in the 9th, I move up in the 10th). Noted. I can’t reflect the draft pick trades in the league until we get a 14th manager, so after a couple of them I’ll post updated draft pick “rosters” to the thread. Hopefully Bababooey gets his computer issues worked out soon. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/19 "2010-08-02T18:34:57Z")
> [@furt](#): > > > [@Munch](#): > > > > furt and I have agreed to a trade as well: > > > > I get Rashard Mendenhall and Vernon Davis. > > furt gets Jamaal Charles. > > Whoa … I said I wanted to discuss a trade, as well as the other offer – but you’re jumping the gun a bit. I was gonna say. Jamaal effing Charles? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576/20 "2010-08-09T01:37:51Z")
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