# He Hate Me FF keeper league - yr 7 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074 "2009-07-24T02:24:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/81 "2009-09-03T18:00:52Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > You don’t have to keep him if you don’t want to. Are you sure you want him? > > Getting screwed by a technicality is pretty much the antithesis of this league; we’re just here to have fun. That’s why I lobbied so hard in the early years to keep money out of it. If I get the chance to take it back, I will. I really don’t want to get special privilege because I’m an idiot though. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/82 "2009-09-03T18:06:27Z")
You’re not getting special privileges. You’re getting ‘special’ privileges. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/83 "2009-09-04T08:08:54Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > I just got back from vacation, is it too late to declare my keepers? > > (Royal and Flacco) Royal and Flacco it is. **Jules** , consider Gonzo out. I would ask if you wanted to keep someone else in Gonzo’s place but you hadn’t used all your slots anyway so I assume Bowe is the only one you want, yes? I’ve been _super_ unmotivated to log the last-minute trades and post the keeper list this week. Part of the reason is that I need a couple hours worth of work to bring the draft utility up to speed, and I kinda really need it to avoid the offseason problems we had this year. A couple hours worth isn’t normally a big deal but so far this week I had two fantasy drafts to occupy my FF time. I’ll get it done, but thought I should explain the procrastinating. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/84 "2009-09-04T08:37:04Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Royal and Flacco it is. > > **Jules** , consider Gonzo out. I would ask if you wanted to keep someone else in Gonzo’s place but you hadn’t used all your slots anyway so I assume Bowe is the only one you want, yes? Thanks. I don’t have another keeper, Bowe is it. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/85 "2009-09-04T13:38:41Z")
I didn’t notice any offseason problems… ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/86 "2009-09-04T15:10:58Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > 1. I am fiercely private, and would not willingly tell any of you slobs who I am or how to reach me. (Or anyone on any MB I inhabit.) Well there goes the plan to send you a case of beer and a fruit basket as a thank-you gift. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/87 "2009-09-04T18:45:00Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I didn’t notice any offseason problems… See how the 2007 season ended [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9386723#post9386723). Compare to how the 2008 season ended starting [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10621029#post10621029) and continuing through the remainder of that thread, plus the first 15 posts of this thread. Notice the dates on those posts as well. I normally post the season round-up in late January, complete with eligible keeper lists. Last season got no round-up at all, and I didn’t even get to the eligible keeper lists until the end of July, long after the Add/Drop history was erased. Meaning this year we didn’t technically require that your eligible keepers never hit the waiver wire, which is a bit of a downer. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/88 "2009-09-07T16:13:05Z")
Here’s a weird offer: If anyone is going to miss the draft tonight, but doesn’t want to be stuck with a mediocre autodraft team, I’ll draft for them (if this is allowable). I’m so hooked on fantasy football that I’d like to do even more drafts (but I don’t want to end up managing a ton of teams all season). I think some people around here will vouch for me in that I’m a pretty good drafter. You could temporarily set your yahoo password to something new, PM it to me, and then change it back later. If you’re uncomfortable with that idea I might be able to join the league (temporarily) under my second yahoo account, draft, and then have the results transferred to your team - but that’s probably a hassle with the commish, possibly breaking the draft order/keepers and all that. So the former method is vastly preferable. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/89 "2009-09-07T16:50:26Z")
Temporary password is the way to go. I can vouch that Beef would be a solid drafter in this league, seeing as how in love he is with RBs. heh. Sadly, I’m betting anyone who can’t make tonight’s draft is already afk. As for my blatant procrastinating, I need to hop in the shower now before heading out to family fun this afternoon, then I’ll try to get everything squared away before hopefully getting in a quick nap. Waking up at 5am was less than ideal for our 10:15pm draft tonight. _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/90 "2009-09-07T16:54:27Z")
I’m in love with value, and it worked out that the value was in RB in the all-pro league. In the auction league I may have spent the least on RB out of anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/91 "2009-09-07T17:16:10Z")
How does the comanager option work for the draft? That might work. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/92 "2009-09-07T17:29:35Z")
It might be a bit weird having **Beef** draft for people. Not that I don’t trust him, but if knows he’s taking Guy X with pick whatever on his own team it’s bound to affect what he does with the other team (and vice versa). ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/93 "2009-09-07T17:30:11Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > How does the comanager option work for the draft? That might work. Never tried it, so I don’t know if that would work. > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It might be a bit weird having **Beef** draft for people. Not that I don’t trust him, but if knows he’s taking Guy X with pick whatever on his own team it’s bound to affect what he does with the other team (and vice versa). I’m not in this league. Edit: When I said I’d use my other yahoo account, I guess that gave the impression that I’d be using 2 accounts at once. No, I was just adding unnecesary information - I can’t use my primary yahoo account because it’s already at the 4 league maximum. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/94 "2009-09-07T17:42:51Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I’m not in this league. Oh, duh. Never mind then. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/95 "2009-09-07T21:36:29Z")
Here’s the complete transaction log for all trades, including the last minute deals I never processed from last week. All trades listed here have been entered into the yahoo league, so it will be automatic during tonight’s live draft. Varlos’ Zzzzzzz gives **6.13, 7.2, 8.13, 9.2, 12.13, 13.2** ; total value: 852 DrewBrees’Birthmark gives **6.2, 7.13, 8.2, 9.13, 12.2, 13.13** : total value: 884 Omni’s Omnipotents gives **5.3, 6.12, 7.3, 8.12, 16.12** ; total value: 1183 Baltimore Weirdos gives **5.14, 6.1, 7.14, 8.1, 16.1** ; total value: 1159 Omni’s Omnipotents gives **DeSean Jackson** (WR-Phi) _10th round pick_ Spiritus Mundane gives **Greg Olsen** (TE-Chi) _13th round pick_ - kept last year Varlos’ Zzzzzzz gives **Dallas Clark** (TE-Ind) _9th round pick_ - kept last year 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) gives **Leon Washington** (RB-NYJ) _12th round pick_ Varlos’ Zzzzzzz gives **4.13, 5.2** ; total value: 1048 Off Constantly gives **4.4, 5.11** ; total value: 1055 Varlos’ Zzzzzzz gives **6.2, 7.13** ; total value: 575 Baltimore Weirdos gives **6.12, 7.3** ; total value: 561 Omni’s Omnipotents gives **11.3, 12.12** ; total value: 94 Off Constantly gives **11.11, 12.4** ; total value: 100 ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/96 "2009-09-07T21:59:09Z")
Youse guys can have your “keepers”, your “trades”, and your strategy. In T minus 3.25 hours, my dominance begins. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/97 "2009-09-07T22:46:15Z")
Here are all the keepers, along with the round they will be kept in this year. Like the trades, these have all been entered in the yahoo league and will be automatic in tonight’s live draft. **Hamlet** (none) **VarlosZ** Roddy White (WR-Atl) 4th round Aaron Rodgers (QB-GB) 6th round Leon Washington (RB-NYJ) 10th round **Omniscient** Chris Johnson (RB-Ten) 5th round Philip Rivers (QB-SD) 7th round Greg Olsen (TE-Chi) 11th round - kept last year **The Mad Hermit** Devin Hester (WR-Chi) 9th round - kept last year Limas Sweed (WR-Pit) 11th round **Ellis Dee** Derrick Ward (RB-TB) 11th round Trent Edwards (QB-Buf) 13th round **Spiritus Mundi** Wes Welker (WR-NE) 7th round - kept last year (1 round penalty that wouldn’t carry over but expires anyway) DeSean Jackson (WR-Phi) 8th round Brady Quinn (QB-Cle) 14th round **Nurse Carmen** Joe Flacco (QB-Bal) 9th round Eddie Royal (WR-Den) 11th round **furt** Brandon Marshall (WR-Den) 7th round - kept last year Darren Sproles (RB-SD) 12th round **Really Not All That Bright** Matt Schaub (QB-Hou) 6th round Dallas Clark (TE-Ind) 7th round - kept last year **Wilson** DeAngelo Williams (RB-Car) 3th round Owen Daniels (TE-Hou) 12th round - kept last year **Munch** Calvin Johnson (WR-Det) 3th round Steve Slaton (RB-Hou) 4th round Matt Ryan (QB-Atl) 12th round **Jules Andre** Dwayne Bowe (WR-KC) 11th round **Bababooey** Kurt Warner (QB-Ari) 6th round Tim Hightower (RB-Ari) 8th round Pierre Thomas (RB-NO) 12th round - kept last year **Weirddave** (none) ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/98 "2009-09-07T22:50:55Z")
We’re keeping 12 of the yahoo top 41 ranked players. Banner year for keepers. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/99 "2009-09-07T23:16:11Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > We’re keeping 12 of the yahoo top 41 ranked players. Banner year for keepers. I have no idea if that’s typical (I would guess yes, but your statement alone testifies to no), but it sure looks bleak for people who don’t already have a first rounder kept. It’ll be interesting to see (for me, being new) how the season plays out for people who don’t have 2 or 3 1st round caliber players. Lots of talent taken out of the draft pool already. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074/100 "2009-09-07T23:22:39Z")
Typically the top flight talent gets taken initially in the first three rounds, meaning they aren’t eligible for keeping. Most of the keepers end up being something like 4th round talent in the 8th or 9th round talent in the 13th. A couple quick reminders: This is a 3-RB league, so draft accordingly. Well, 2 RBs and one RB/WR flex, but same difference. Keeper picks get skipped in the draft, so the rounds go quicker than they normally would. Be sure to check how many picks until your next selection before going afk. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074.md?page=6)