# He Hate Me FF keeper league **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 2, 2006, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113 "2006-06-02T05:51:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/121 "2006-08-29T09:28:50Z")
> [@](#): > > If we’re to be buying from the obscure beers catalog, perhaps I’ll need to have myself a couple 4-packs of Goose Island Bourbon County Stout. Be sure to get yourself one too. mmmm, that doees look yummy. I can find Old Peculier Old Peculier at ABC liquors in South Florida (often, but not always) so I don’t think of it has terribly obscure. I don’t think anyone should be forced to extraordinary measures, so we can always declare an acceptable fall back beer when the time comes. It’s really the sweet nectar of victory that I will be savorinh, anyway. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/122 "2006-08-29T15:16:29Z")
[QUOTE=Spiritus Mundi] mmmm, that doees look yummy. 🙂 [/QUOTE] At close to $20 a 4-pack it ought to be. 😉 I think you need add a bottle of Old Crow to go with that. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/123 "2006-08-29T15:17:35Z")
[QUOTE=Ellis Dee] That’s like Advanced Trading 202. Very impressive. [/QUOTE] My goal is to not actually draft a single player for my own team. I’m almost there. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/124 "2006-08-29T16:53:29Z")
> [@](#): > > My goal is to not actually draft a single player for my own team. I’m almost there. I love it!! My own goal was to not have to draft anybody after round 12, but I couldn’t manage to swing that one. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/125 "2006-08-29T18:20:11Z")
Okay, thanks for the input folks. Cooley, Big Ben, and Travis Taylor will be my picks. I’m just not high at all on Burleson, and Travis moves up the depth chart via osmosis. Or was it Koren Robinson being a complete fucknut? Nah. Must have been osmosis. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/126 "2006-08-29T19:02:11Z")
> [@](#): > > At close to $20 a 4-pack it ought to be. $20 😃 For that price it should drive me home afterward. Let’s put a cap of $40 + shipping cost, beverage of the winner’s choice. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/127 "2006-08-29T22:05:50Z")
[QUOTE=Spiritus Mundi] $20 😃 For that price it should drive me home afterward. Let’s put a cap of $40 + shipping cost, beverage of the winner’s choice. [/QUOTE] Here’s a suggestion, maybe we should send a package of the losers favorite local beer to the winner. Not much point in you paying for shipping to send a beer that I can walk down the street and nab. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/128 "2006-08-29T22:07:25Z")
Works for me. I’m always happy to discover a new beer. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/129 "2006-08-29T22:20:42Z")
[QUOTE=Spiritus Mundi] Works for me. I’m always happy to discover a new beer. [/QUOTE] Old Style it is!!! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/130 "2006-08-30T08:18:18Z")
Okay, here’s a data dump of the state of the league. Let me know if you spot any errors. (The trade log ignores keepers.) I’ll be sending a mass email with all your draft worksheets in a bit. **KEEPER LIST** Quarterbacks Bledsoe, D. (Dal) - Hermits in the 7th (7.10) Brady, T. (NE) - Mundi in the 4th (4.12) Delhomme, J. (Car) - 4th&19 in the 6th (6.3) Manning, E. (NYG) - Fanboys in the 7th (7.14) \*Palmer, C. (Cin) - (Munch) in the 8th (8.14) Rivers, P. (SD) - 4th&19 in the 14th (14.3) \*Roethlisberger, B. (Pit) - Culpable in the 10th (10.10) Running Backs \*Dunn, W. (Atl) - Mundi in the 3rd (3.14) Gore, F. (SF) - Quakers in the 8th (8.9) \*Jackson, S. (StL) - Moridwon in the 2nd (2.7) \*Johnson, L. (KC) - Weirdos in the 7th (7.7) Jones, T. (Chi) - Pear Shape in the 2nd (2.14) \*Jordan, L. (Oak) - (Munch) in the 3rd (3.13) \*McGahee, W. (Buf) - VarlosZ in the 3rd (3.11) Parker, W. (Pit) - Hermits in the 9th (9.10) Rhodes, D. (Ind) - Pear Shape in the 14th (14.14) \*Taylor, C. (Min) - NOLA in the 7th (7.4) Wide Receivers \*Boldin, A. (Ari) - Chitwood in the 4th (4.6) Bryant, A. (SF) - Chitwood in the 10th (10.6) Burress, P. (NYG) - Fanboys in the 4th (4.13) Curtis, K. (StL) - Pear Shape in the 12th (12.13) Fitzgerald, L. (Ari) - Quakers in the 3rd (3.6) Glenn, T. (Dal) - Moridwon in the 14th (14.11) Jenkins, M. (Atl) - (Munch) in the 13th (13.13) Jones, Ma. (Jac) - Quakers in the 9th (9.6) Moss, Sa. (Was) - Mundi in the 6th (6.13) Taylor, T. (Min) - Culpable in the 12th (12.10) Toomer, A. (NYG) - Fanboys in the 10th (10.13) \*Williams, Ro. (Det) - neuroman in the 5th (5.14) Tight Ends Cooley, C. (Was) - Culpable in the 8th (8.10) \*Gates, A. (SD) - Weirdos in the 8th (8.8) Team Defenses Chicago, (Chi) - NOLA in the 12th (12.11) \*Pittsburgh, (Pit) - Hermits in the 10th (10.5) \*Also kept last year. **TRADE LOG** 7/25/2006 New York Fanboys and Mundis Morning Glory have agreed to the following trade: Fanboys give: 6.13 (83) + 7.2 (86) + 15.2 (198) - 560 value Mundi gives: 6.1 (71) + 7.14 (98) + 15.14 (210) - 578 value 8/10/2006 New York Fanboys and Rhinosaurs(neuroman) have agreed to the following trade: Fanboys give: 5.2 (58) + 11.2 (142) - 568 value neuroman gives: 6.12 (82) + 7.3 (87) - 561 value 8/13/2006 NOLA Sex Panthers and Mundis Morning Glory have agreed to the following trade: NOLA gives: 3.4 (32) + 14.11 (193) - 804 value Mundi gives: 15.2 (198) + 16.1 (211) - 0 value 8/19/2006 Mundis Morning Glory and Rhinosaurs(neuroman) have agreed to the following trade: Mundi gives: 4.1 (43) + 5.14 (70) + 12.1 (155) - 1112 value neuroman gives: 4.12 (54) + 5.3 (59) + 10.12 (138) - 1108 value 8/20/2006 Gone Pear Shaped and OBC (Munch) have agreed to the following trade: Pear Shape gives: 2.2 (16) + 3.13 (41) + 5.13 (69) - 2259 value (Munch) gives: 2.14 (28) + 3.1 (29) + 5.1 (57) - 2244 value 8/24/2006 New York Fanboys and Gone Pear Shaped have agreed to the following trade: Fanboys give: 7.3 (87) + 8.13 (111) + 12.13 (167) - 415 value Pear Shape gives: 7.13 (97) + 8.2 (100) + 12.2 (156) - 413 value 8/28/2006 Mundis Morning Glory and Moridwon have agreed to the following trade: Mundi gives: 14.11 (193) - 0 value Moridwon gives: 9.8 (120) - 88 value 8/29/2006 Gone Pear Shaped and OBC (Munch) have agreed to the following trade: Pear Shape gives: 5.1 (57) + 13.13 (181) + 14.2 (184) + 16.2 (212) - 535 value (Munch) gives: 4.14 (56) + 13.1 (169) + 14.14 (196) + 16.14 (224) - 560 value **DRAFT PICKS** OBC (Munch) 01-01 (001): 1889 02-02 (016): 1167 03-13 (041): 682 05-01 (057): 519 05-13 (069): 410 06-14 (084): 284 07-01 (085): 276 08-14 (112): 114 09-01 (113): 111 10-14 (140): 59 11-01 (141): 59 12-14 (168): 34 13-13 (181): 10 14-02 (184): 6 15-01 (197): 0 16-02 (212): 0 New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee) 01-02 (002): 1823 02-13 (027): 890 03-02 (030): 836 04-13 (055): 538 06-01 (071): 393 06-12 (082): 300 07-13 (097): 191 07-14 (098): 185 08-02 (100): 173 09-02 (114): 107 10-13 (139): 60 12-02 (156): 49 13-02 (170): 31 14-13 (195): 0 15-14 (210): 0 16-13 (223): 0 Rhinosaurs(neuroman) 01-03 (003): 1759 02-12 (026): 910 03-03 (031): 820 04-01 (043): 660 05-02 (058): 510 05-14 (070): 402 08-12 (110): 122 09-03 (115): 103 11-02 (142): 58 11-03 (143): 57 12-01 (155): 50 12-12 (166): 37 13-03 (171): 29 14-12 (194): 0 15-03 (199): 0 16-12 (222): 0 NOLA Sex Panthers (BabaBooey) 01-04 (004): 1699 02-11 (025): 931 04-11 (053): 557 05-04 (060): 491 06-11 (081): 308 07-04 (088): 253 08-11 (109): 127 09-04 (116): 100 10-11 (137): 61 11-04 (144): 57 12-11 (165): 39 13-04 (172): 27 15-02 (198): 0 15-04 (200): 0 16-01 (211): 0 16-11 (221): 0 Culpable Deniability (Nurse Carmen) 01-05 (005): 1642 02-10 (024): 952 03-05 (033): 788 04-10 (052): 566 05-05 (061): 482 06-10 (080): 316 07-05 (089): 246 08-10 (108): 131 09-05 (117): 97 10-10 (136): 62 11-05 (145): 56 12-10 (164): 40 13-05 (173): 25 14-10 (192): 0 15-05 (201): 0 16-10 (220): 0 Fightin’ Quakers (furt) 01-06 (006): 1587 02-09 (023): 975 03-06 (034): 773 04-09 (051): 576 05-06 (062): 473 06-09 (079): 325 07-06 (090): 239 08-09 (107): 136 09-06 (118): 94 10-09 (135): 63 11-06 (146): 56 12-09 (163): 42 13-06 (174): 23 14-09 (191): 0 15-06 (202): 0 16-09 (219): 0 Baltimore Weirdos (Weirddave) 01-07 (007): 1535 02-08 (022): 998 03-07 (035): 759 04-08 (050): 586 05-07 (063): 464 06-08 (078): 333 07-07 (091): 231 08-08 (106): 141 09-07 (119): 91 10-08 (134): 64 11-07 (147): 55 12-08 (162): 43 13-07 (175): 21 14-08 (190): 1 15-07 (203): 0 16-08 (218): 0 Moridwon (Hamlet) 01-08 (008): 1485 02-07 (021): 1023 03-08 (036): 745 04-07 (049): 596 05-08 (064): 455 06-07 (077): 341 07-08 (092): 224 08-07 (105): 146 10-07 (133): 65 11-08 (148): 55 12-07 (161): 44 13-08 (176): 20 14-07 (189): 1 14-11 (193): 0 15-08 (204): 0 16-07 (217): 0 Chitwood - TBA (Jimmy Chitwood) 01-09 (009): 1438 02-06 (020): 1049 03-09 (037): 732 04-06 (048): 606 05-09 (065): 446 06-06 (076): 350 07-09 (093): 217 08-06 (104): 151 09-09 (121): 86 10-06 (132): 66 11-09 (149): 54 12-06 (160): 45 13-09 (177): 18 14-06 (188): 1 15-09 (205): 0 16-06 (216): 0 Crabby Hermits (The Mad Hermit) 01-10 (010): 1393 02-05 (019): 1076 03-10 (038): 719 04-05 (047): 616 05-10 (066): 437 06-05 (075): 358 07-10 (094): 211 08-05 (103): 156 09-10 (122): 83 10-05 (131): 67 11-10 (150): 53 12-05 (159): 46 13-10 (178): 16 14-05 (187): 2 15-10 (206): 0 16-05 (215): 0 Varlos’ Zzzzzzz (VarlosZ) 01-11 (011): 1351 02-04 (018): 1105 03-11 (039): 707 04-04 (046): 627 05-11 (067): 428 06-04 (074): 367 07-11 (095): 204 08-04 (102): 161 09-11 (123): 81 10-04 (130): 69 11-11 (151): 53 12-04 (158): 47 13-11 (179): 14 14-04 (186): 3 15-11 (207): 0 16-04 (214): 0 Fourth and Nineteen (Wilson) 01-12 (012): 1310 02-03 (017): 1135 03-12 (040): 694 04-03 (045): 638 05-12 (068): 419 06-03 (073): 375 07-12 (096): 197 08-03 (101): 167 09-12 (124): 79 10-03 (129): 70 11-12 (152): 52 12-03 (157): 48 13-12 (180): 12 14-03 (185): 4 15-12 (208): 0 16-03 (213): 0 Gone Pear Shaped (Omniscient) 01-13 (013): 1272 02-14 (028): 872 03-01 (029): 853 04-02 (044): 648 04-14 (056): 528 06-02 (072): 384 07-03 (087): 261 08-13 (111): 118 09-13 (125): 77 10-02 (128): 72 11-13 (153): 52 12-13 (167): 36 13-01 (169): 32 14-14 (196): 0 15-13 (209): 0 16-14 (224): 0 Mundis Morning Glory (Spiritus Mundi) 01-14 (014): 1235 02-01 (015): 1200 03-04 (032): 804 03-14 (042): 671 04-12 (054): 547 05-03 (059): 500 06-13 (083): 292 07-02 (086): 268 08-01 (099): 179 09-08 (120): 88 09-14 (126): 75 10-01 (127): 73 10-12 (138): 61 11-14 (154): 51 13-14 (182): 9 14-01 (183): 7 ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/131 "2006-08-30T13:20:10Z")
Should I have gotten that worksheet already? I didn’t. Anyway, I was just doing a find-and-replace in excel to take all the kept players out of my master list, and after they had all been found and replaced I was reviewing what the available player list looked like. One of the guys on my list was just named “Ton.” Couldn’t figure out what the fuck I had done, until I realized it was T"Roy Williams"on. Yeah, that’s the whole story. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/132 "2006-08-30T13:21:18Z")
Never mind, I got it. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/133 "2006-08-30T13:51:50Z")
[QUOTE=Jimmy Chitwood] Anyway, I was just doing a find-and-replace in excel to take all the kept players out of my master list, […] [/QUOTE] Speaking of which, Mundi raised a good point recently. Half of us aren’t even selecting our own keepers, since we traded our keeper picks down. That means that we should all put _all_ the keepers on our yahoo exclude list, including our own. And for that matter, for those of us who’ve made trades, the preranking is worthless. I went in to set it just now and was like, what the hell? Do I rank them by the picks I actually own, or the ones listed in yahoo? Too much of a headache to bother. 5 days, 12 hours 38 minutes and 14 seconds and counting… ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/134 "2006-08-30T18:40:49Z")
**Ellis** - I got your email. Great stuff. I must thank you publicly and profusely for the amount of work you have put into keeping this thing running and managing all of the permutations of trades that we owners have ingeniously (diabolically?) collaborated upon. Kudos to you and your OCD. I hereby appoint you, with neither debate nor possibility of refusal, He-Hate-Commissioner-for-Life. :eek: :eek: Deal with it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/135 "2006-08-30T18:42:08Z")
BTW – I am adding all keepers to my “do not draft list” pre-draft, then chaining myself to the computer at 10:15 Monday night. I humbly suggest that others plan to do the same. Sobriety optional but not recommended. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/136 "2006-08-30T20:23:54Z")
Holy crap, I go on SDMB-sabbatical for a month or so, and the whole damn league explodes. I had never seen an actual, agreed-upon draft pick trade in a league before until now. . . First, great job, Ellis. If it were up to me to keep track of trades and keepers, the league would’ve disbanded weeks ago. This is most impressive. Second, how are we going to keep this straight during the draft? I voted “yes” on draft pick trading because I never imagined there would be more than a couple of trades. Now, I’m not so sure I don’t want to change my vote. I hereby predict that this will be the last year we allow draft pick trades, as the NFL is going to have to push back the start of the season just to give us enough time to straighten out all of Monday’s SNAFUs. Hope I’m wrong, though. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/137 "2006-08-30T20:57:47Z")
O Ye of little faith. 😃 If all parties add all keepers to their “ignore” list, I think the number of SNAFU’s will be reduced significantly. Yes, the trade of draft picks adds (a lot) of complexity to the exercise, but thanks to Ellis we all have the information necessary to stay on top of it. The worst case scenario would be for one party of a trade to not show up on draft day. I think in that case we would have to trat it like we treated “oops” picks on keepers last year: the owner who got the “autodraft shaft” would _reserve_ the rights to the player he wanted to select. The player actually taken would be up for grabs again through a scrubstitute pick (Todd Pinkston, anyone?) It reads more complicated than it plays, but I think it won’t be any worse than what we had to clean up last year (remember the missing 16th round?) ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/138 "2006-08-30T22:50:15Z")
[QUOTE=VarlosZ] I hereby predict that this will be the last year we allow draft pick trades, as the NFL is going to have to push back the start of the season just to give us enough time to straighten out all of Monday’s SNAFUs. Hope I’m wrong, though. [/QUOTE] Well, I’m glad somebody else said it. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/139 "2006-08-31T02:39:26Z")
> [@Spiritus](#): > > If all parties add all keepers to their “ignore” list, I think the number of SNAFU’s will be reduced significantly. Does that work? IIRC, last year the ignore list only affected those who were absent and drafting from a list; players on “ignore” still showed up on the list if you’re drafting manually. Hoo-boy. I would suggest that someone (probably Ellis) should constantly announce the upcoming anomalies at the start of each round, and as the picks draw near, and that everyone scan the keeper list before every single pick they make. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113/140 "2006-08-31T03:02:39Z")
[QUOTE=VarlosZ] Does that work? IIRC, last year the ignore list only affected those who were absent and drafting from a list; players on “ignore” still showed up on the list if you’re drafting manually. [/quote] Yes, it only applies to absentee drafters. We can manually draft anyone on our exclude list. > [@](#): > > Hoo-boy. I would suggest that someone (probably Ellis) should constantly announce the upcoming anomalies at the start of each round, and as the picks draw near, and that everyone scan the keeper list before every single pick they make. [post=7699340]One step ahead of you:[/post] > [@Ellis Dee](#): > > I’ll be tracking each selection in realtime during the draft, so I’ll need a 5 second waiting period after every pick. If the next pick was traded, then within that 5 seconds I’ll post a notification to the group as to who owns it. At that point, the owner calls out who he wants, and the selector picks that guy for him. Other notifications will be if traded picks are coming up, a section of traded picks has passed, and also if any trades have gone through. (Trading during the live draft is perfectly acceptable.) > > Here’s some sample messages you can expect to see during the live draft: > > Immediately after the following picks are made, I’ll post: > 1-13: \*\*\* Traded pick(s) coming up. (Pear Shape) > 2-01: \*\*\* Pear Shape, your pick belongs to Munch. > 2-02: \*\*\* All clear for 11 picks. > > These messages are auto-generated and stuffed to the clipboard by a little utility I wrote last Sunday. The \*\*\* prefix is to signify official drafting instructions. “All clear for # picks” is saying that there are no traded picks to worry about during that span. > > Some thoughts: > > Because we are trading draft picks, the normal “bathroom” breaks will be fewer and farther between. Just because you aren’t on the yahoo clock for another 14 picks doesn’t mean you won’t be needed prior to then. Before leaving the computer, check your sheet to make sure you don’t have any traded picks coming up. I won’t have any way to quickly tell how long you have before you’re needed, so asking me likely won’t help much. (I’ll be busy logging selections and talking smack.) > > Because I’ll be logging each pick, please try to give me 5 seconds or so before adding anything to the chat room after a pick is announced. I recall from last year how difficult it was to scroll back and see the last pick made during an energetic conversation. > > If I should need to slow things down for whatever reason, (I logged the wrong guy, have to use the bathroom, whatever,) I’ll ask to slow things down. This means that whomever is on the clock should let their timer get down to 15-20 seconds before making their pick. (Or whatever you feel is comfortably reasonable; just not rapid fire.) > > Incidentally, the little utility I wrote also generates a list of the final (corrected) rosters after the draft, formatted for the messageboard. That means that I should be able to make the necessary roster swaps from trades and fuckups and post the final rosters to the thread within an hour after the live draft ends. > > Since I’m using a database, team name changes won’t really affect me too much, but will conflict with the print materials I send out, so keep that in mind. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113.md?page=8)