# He Hate Me Keeper League 2020 - Year 18 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [August 4, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277 "2020-08-04T19:43:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/41 "2020-09-04T23:21:08Z")
I’m here, hoping to actually draft a team this year. No keepers planned. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/42 "2020-09-05T22:12:25Z")
Either day works for me. Keeping only Chubb in the 5th ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/43 "2020-09-06T21:02:06Z")
So can we get a decision? Monday is now tomorrow, and it would be good to know whether/when we will be drafting. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/44 "2020-09-06T22:28:18Z")
I’ve been trying to get ahold of Wilson via PM and email. He hasn’t responded. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/45 "2020-09-06T23:39:37Z")
I’m going to keep dk Metcalf, Hardman, Brown. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/46 "2020-09-07T02:49:06Z")
My other league drafts Monday so Tuesday would be better. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/47 "2020-09-07T15:25:22Z")
Sorry! Been out of touch for a while… Thanks Munch for all you’ve done so far in terms of putting together the eligible keeper list. Let me go look if I can get a slot for tomorrow night (Tues). ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/48 "2020-09-07T15:28:44Z")
Draft set for 9pm eastern tomorrow (Sep 8th). I had to move the keeper deadline up to tomorrow. I think we’ve heard from most everybody… ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/49 "2020-09-07T15:37:17Z")
No keepers for me. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/50 "2020-09-07T17:12:54Z")
The commish is setting our keepers, right? Not ourselves? The “set keepers” checklist item on the league page is grayed out for me and I don’t see anywhere to set it ourselves. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/51 "2020-09-07T17:39:00Z")
Pretty sure it has to be the commish, as Yahoo doesn’t support our two round bump rule for keepers. Will get them in later this afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/52 "2020-09-07T19:33:59Z")
You can plug keepers into that, but it doesn’t process our “minus 2 rounds” rule. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/53 "2020-09-08T13:00:09Z")
OK, draft order is set, and all keepers have been put in in the appropriate round. Please feel free to check my work! I don’t have keeper declarations for two owners - Post Mahomes and The Quack Attack. I don’t remember who those are, to be honest… is one of them Sir T-Cups? ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/54 "2020-09-08T13:06:02Z")
Yes, one is me and one is Mrs cups, neither of us want any keepers ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/55 "2020-09-08T14:54:15Z")
Anyone else completely unprepared for Fantasy this year? No pre-season means the regular season really snuck up on me. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/56 "2020-09-08T14:59:39Z")
Yup, totally unprepared as well. I’ll probably just stick to drafting names I know - like LaDainian Tomlinson and Torry Holt. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/57 "2020-09-08T16:59:03Z")
With the 2nd pick of the draft, I select [Lamar Jackson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamar_Jackson_(cornerback)). ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/58 "2020-09-08T17:45:24Z")
I’m also almost entirely unprepared this year. This will easily be the lowest effort I’ve put into fantasy in the last 16 years or so. I usually have the best keepers in this league, but a bunch of my good ones (Alvin Kamara and Chris Carson in like the 5th through 11th the last couple of years) exceeded their 3 year eligibility at the same time and I had to start from scratch. I only did okay this year. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/59 "2020-09-08T17:53:58Z")
How your keepers affect your draft will be very interesting. Do you completely ignore WR most of the time, since you have 3 already? Or do you just bank their value, and draft normally? I think the league has caught up to the keeper game - we’re putting a lot of value on youth during the draft, and their value as a keeper gets diminished as a result. There’s only 4 RBs being kept in total, and one of them is just a fringe starter (but still great value to keep). There’s also 4 QBs being kept, which I think is more than normal. Maybe it’s just really cyclical. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277/60 "2020-09-08T18:32:50Z")
My WRs definitely aren’t good enough to forego drafting better WRs. I was borderline on even keeping Hardman, but I figure he’s kind of a lottery ticket where if anyone important ahead of him goes down he could be very productive because of that KC offense. Metcalf I think can probably be a WR2, Brown is very very boom or bust, I don’t know what to make of him. So I definitely won’t be skipping drafting a WR early, but the keepers may keep me more flexible in the mid-rounds where I don’t have to worry about filling up the flex or having backup WRs so much. None of them are team-changing keepers like I usually have, just guys that are better than the draft pick I’d have if I didn’t keep them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277.md?page=4)