# He Hate Me Keeper League 2021 - Year 19
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348
**Category:** The Game Room
**Tags:** football-nfl
**Created:** [August 10, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348 "2021-08-10T01:06:58Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/1 "2021-08-10T01:06:58Z")
[SDMB He Hate Me Keeper League](https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/hehatemesdmb)
Can Dave become the first-time threepeater?
Can anyone stop NIN’s late-round keeper Josh Allen?
Can Munch convince the league to finally get rid of kickers?
Can we find enough replacement players to continue the league one more season?
Keeper Rules
1. You can only keep a maximum of 3 players.
2. You can only keep players drafted after the second round (third rounders or later only.)
3. A player can only be kept a maximum of twice. (Making 3 total roster years.)
4. A kept player incurs a two round penalty (e.g: drafted in the 6th, kept in the 4th.)
**Hall of Fame**
[2003 - Year 1](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924) Winner: mouthbreather
[2004 - Year 2](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upcoming-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/240522) Winner: Spiritus Mundi
[2005 - Year 3](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-fantasy-football-signup-now-open/311152) Winner: Spiritus Mundi ([thread #2](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-mid-season-draft-review-2006/329270))
[2006 - Year 4](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113) Winner: The Mad Hermit
[2007 - Year 5](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-so-bad-ff-keeper-league/406801) Winner: Nurse Carmen
[2008 - Year 6](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318) Winner: Weirddave
[2009 - Year 7](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074) Winner: VarlosZ
[2010 - Year 8](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576) Winner: Weirddave
[2011 - Year 9](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-9/591413) Winner: Really Not All That Bright
[2012 - Year 10](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142) Winner: Really Not All That Bright
[2013 - Year 11](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-11/659712) Winner: VarlosZ
[2014 - Year 12](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989) Winner: Ottoerotic
[2015 - Year 13](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-13/728013) Winner: Weirddave
[2016 - Year 14](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-14/762435) Winner: motu
[2017 - Year 15](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-15/792572) Winner: Johnny Ace
[2018 - Year 16](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242) Winner: dalej42
[2019 - Year 17](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-leage-2019-year-17/838974) Winner: Weirddave
[2020 - Year 18](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277) Winner: Weirddave
I don’t think I’m going to be able to go through and figure out people’s potential keepers, so please make sure you click the league link at the top and see what you’ve got. Welcome back, everyone - I think this is going to be a fun year of football trying to figure out which COVIDiot to avoid that’ll tank that one crucial week…
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### Author:  [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2021, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/2 "2021-08-10T01:18:55Z")
Can you resend the join link? I don’t see my team listed when I log into yahoo. The link above takes me to the league page from last year
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### Author:  [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/3 "2021-08-10T01:43:11Z")
I have not checked against multiple keeper years other than my own team - but keepers from last year are marked with a square.
Disgruntled Goats
3. (29) [Robert Woods](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/26664)
4. (56) [Cooper Kupp](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30182)
6. (84) [Latavius Murray](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/26804)
8. (112) [Cam Newton](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/24788)
Big Mack Attack
3. (30) [Jonathan Taylor](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32711)
4. (55) [Tyler Lockett](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/28457)
6. (83) [Brandin Cooks](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/27548)
7. (86) [Tom Brady](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5228)
11. (142) [Alexander Mattison](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31934)
12. (167) [Darrell Henderson Jr.](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31902)
13. (170) [Laviska Shenault Jr.](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32712)
15. (198) [Jonnu Smith](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30213)
Post Mahomes
4. (54) [T.Y. Hilton](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/25802)
5. (59) [Carson Wentz](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/29236)
6. (82) [James White](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/27658)
7. (87) [Sterling Shepard](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/29274)
8. (110) [Rob Gronkowski](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/24017)
10. (138) [Minnesota](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/minnesota/)
11. (143) [Jared Goff](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/29235)
13. (171) [Larry Fitzgerald](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6762)
Hermits
3. (32) [Todd Gurley II](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/28398)
4. (53) [Matt Ryan](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8780)
5. (60) [Jared Cook](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9353)
6. (81) [Ben Roethlisberger](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6770)
7. (88) [Diontae Johnson](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31898)
8. (109) [Darius Slayton](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32003)
10. (137) [Baltimore](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/baltimore/)
11. (144) [Adrian Peterson](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8261)
14. (193) [Harrison Butker](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30346)
15. (200) [Cole Beasley](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/26060)
Moridwon (Hamlet)
4. (52) [J.K. Dobbins](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32725)
6. (80) [Drew Brees](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5479)
7. (89) [Hayden Hurst](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30995)
10. (136) [Bryce Love](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31944)
15. (201) [Jerick McKinnon](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/27624)
Chicago Cardinals
3. (34) [Terry McLaurin](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31908)
4. (51) [Zack Moss](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32756)
5. (62) [Nick Chubb](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31005)
6. (79) [Christian Kirk](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31017)
7. (90) [CeeDee Lamb](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32687)
8. (107) [Joe Burrow](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32671)
10. (135) [Justin Jefferson](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32692)
11. (146) [T.J. Hockenson](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31840)
12. (163) [AJ Dillon](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32732)
13. (174) [New England](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/new-england/)
15. (202) [Chris Herndon](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31077)
16. (219) [Michael Badgley](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31366)
Fourth & Nineteen
3. (35) [Raheem Mostert](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/28654)
4. (50) [Deshaun Watson](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30125)
6. (78) [Marvin Jones Jr.](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/25876)
7. (91) [Deebo Samuel](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31868)
9. (119) [Jerry Jeudy](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32685)
10. (134) [Noah Fant](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31852)
13. (175) [Tua Tagovailoa](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32675)
Omnipotents
3. (36) [David Johnson](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/28474)
4. (49) [Tyler Higbee](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/29344)
7. (92) [Dak Prescott](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/29369)
8. (105) [Justin Jackson](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31221)
9. (120) [DJ Moore](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30994)
10. (133) [Joshua Kelley](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32782)
12. (161) [Sammy Watkins](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/27532)
13. (176) [Malcolm Brown](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/28990)
14. (189) [Los Angeles](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/la-rams/)
15. (204) [Drew Lock](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31874)
16. (217) [Brandon McManus](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/27120)
The Quack Attack
3. (37) [Stefon Diggs](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/28534)
4. (48) [Ronald Jones II](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31008)
5. (65) [DeVante Parker](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/28402)
6. (76) [Hunter Henry](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/29269)
7. (93) [Aaron Rodgers](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7200)
9. (121) [Ryan Tannehill](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/25718)
10. (132) [Mike Gesicki](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31012)
11. (149) [Buffalo](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buffalo/)
12. (160) [Taysom Hill](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30614)
13. (177) [Mason Crosby](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8447)
15. (205) [Marquez Valdes-Scantling](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31144)
16. (216) [Eric Ebron](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/27538)
Spiritus Mundane
3. (38) [Le’Veon Bell](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/26671)
4. (47) [Kenny Golladay](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30209)
5. (66) [Devin Singletary](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31906)
7. (94) [Matthew Stafford](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9265)
9. (122) [Brandon Aiyuk](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32695)
12. (159) [James Robinson](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/33138)
14. (187) [DJ Chark Jr.](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31031)
Exploding Pancakes
3. (39) [Allen Robinson II](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/27589)
4. (46) [Russell Wilson](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/25785)
5. (67) [David Montgomery](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31905)
6. (74) [D’Andre Swift](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32705)
7. (95) [Jamison Crowder](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/28493)
9. (123) [DK Metcalf](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31896)
10. (130) [Mecole Hardman](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31888)
11. (151) [Chicago](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/chicago/)
12. (158) [Jalen Reagor](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32691)
13. (179) [Marquise Brown](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31857)
15. (207) [Kirk Cousins](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/25812)
Nine Inch Neils
3. (40) [Kareem Hunt](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30199)
5. (68) [Phillip Lindsay](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31379)
6. (73) [Will Fuller V](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/29255)
7. (96) [Chase Edmonds](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31104)
8. (101) [Chris Godwin](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30197)
11. (152) [Josh Allen](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30977)
12. (157) [Justin Tucker](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/26534)
15. (208) [Tennessee](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/tennessee/)
16. (213) [Tre’Quan Smith](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31061)
Carcosa Yellow Kings
3. (41) [Cam Akers](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32722)
4. (44) [Amari Cooper](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/28392)
5. (69) [Antonio Gibson](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32736)
6. (72) [Henry Ruggs III](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/32682)
10. (128) [Pittsburgh](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/pittsburgh/)
13. (181) [Darren Waller](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/28592)
14. (184) [Nyheim Hines](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31074)
Baltimore Weirdos
3. (42) [Kenyan Drake](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/29307)
4. (43) [Mark Andrews](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31056)
5. (70) [Tyler Boyd](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/29288)
6. (71) [Jarvis Landry](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/27591)
7. (98) [Calvin Ridley](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30996)
8. (99) [Sony Michel](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31001)
10. (127) [Robby Anderson](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/29785)
13. (182) [Teddy Bridgewater](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/27560)
16. (211) [Damien Harris](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31919)
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### Author:  [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2021, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/4 "2021-08-10T15:31:06Z")
**dalej42** - your invite went to your userid at [gmail.com](http://gmail.com). Just re-sent it. If you need it to go to somewhere else, please PM me.
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### Author:  [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/5 "2021-08-10T15:47:53Z")
Got it this time, I use a different email for fantasy sports only. I’m back and eager for football to start!
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### Author:  [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/6 "2021-08-12T18:36:24Z")
I will probably be keeping:
> [@Munch](#):
>
> 1. (96) [Chase Edmonds](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31104)
> 2. (152) [Josh Allen](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30977)
> 3. (213) [Tre’Quan Smith](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/31061)
Sadly, my all-time WR man-crush, Chris Godwin, has exhausted his two seasons of keeper eligibility and I will likely have to watch him run off with someone else’s ball (and heart).
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### Author:  [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/7 "2021-08-13T15:40:09Z")
Is the draft order set?
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### Author:  [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/8 "2021-08-13T15:43:48Z")
Late, but here I am. Will declare any keepers soon.
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### Author:  [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/9 "2021-08-24T14:16:50Z")
Do we have a draft date?
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### Author:  [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/10 "2021-08-24T14:19:50Z")
Nope. We gotta get this thing moving.
I cannot draft before 8:30pm eastern. I’d prefer to draft during the week rather than a weekend. I’ll post draft order later.
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### Author:  [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/11 "2021-08-24T17:14:27Z")
I think this league has always drafted the day after labor day (tuesday) at 8:30 eastern. That would be Sep 7 this year.
We’re missing 4 players from last year: Quack Attack (Sir T-cups), Post Mahomes (his wife), Disgruntled Goats (motu), Omnipotents (omniscient). I will send out a round of PMs.
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### Author:  [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/12 "2021-08-24T17:36:22Z")
I will be keeping DK Metcalf in the the 7th, and probably David Montgomery in the 3rd and D’Andre Swift in the 4th, but I’m undecided on the latter two. They’re relatively good value there, but not slam dunks.
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### Author:  [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/13 "2021-08-24T18:15:42Z")
IIRC, we allow the trading of draft picks. I am currently toying with the idea of keeping JK Dobbins for my second round pick (currently pick #16). It’s not great value, but the way this league seems to work, a solid if unspectacular back, can be a huge asset.
Now, if someone who is picking later in the second round wanted to move up to pick #16 in return for their 2nd round pick and some value\*, that would seem to be a win/win for both of us.
- Some value is, of course, completely subjective.
If interested, shoot me a pm
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### Author:  [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/14 "2021-08-24T19:27:49Z")
I think we got ride of pick trading a few years ago.
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### Author:  [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/15 "2021-08-24T19:31:38Z")
We did a while back. I’d have to dig through the old threads but I remember pushing for it for years because I thought that was a very silly rule and finally sometime around maybe 2016 or 2017 it was voted out. In a separate but somewhat related issue, trading keeper eligibility for picks (ie swapping picks for the right to keep a player that one owner could keep but won’t) was also banned a couple of years later.
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### Author:  [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2021, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/16 "2021-08-24T21:56:54Z")
Hey all thanks for the PM reminder
Unfortunately, both Mrs. Cups and I will not be participating this year. We are expecting our little girl (our first!) sometime at the end of September. With a newborn we aren’t going to have the time to manage a fantasy team.
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### Author:  [@motu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/motu)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/17 "2021-08-24T23:01:00Z")
I’m in, no keepers
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### Author:  [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2021, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/18 "2021-08-25T05:48:27Z")
Keepers:
- Brandon Aiyuk (7)
- James Robinson (10)
- DJ Chark (12)
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### Author:  [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2021, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/19 "2021-08-25T14:14:26Z")
Draft order:
Quack Attack
Post Mahomes
Omni
Spiritus Mundi
Big Mack Attack
Disgruntled Goats
Hermits
Carcosa Yellow Kings
NIN
4th and 19
Exploding Pancakes
Hamlet
Baltimore Weirdos
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### Author:  [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/20 "2021-08-25T15:13:46Z")
Keepers for me:
Darrell Henderson (10)
Laviska Shenault Jr. (11)
Jonnu Smith (13)
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