# He Hate Me Keeper League 2021 - Year 19 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [August 10, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348 "2021-08-10T01:06:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/101 "2021-09-15T15:04:35Z")
So remove K, add a WR slot? Also maybe make flex W/R/T? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/102 "2021-09-15T15:34:08Z")
Yes, definitely. Stretching out the WR spot means you need more flexibility in the flex spot. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/103 "2021-09-15T17:37:30Z")
Flex W/T slot, not RB. I play on a money league where the slots are: WR W/T W/T W/R/T W/R/T which we think best represents how NFL offensive sets actually look these days. We’ve debated removing the second RB slot entirely, but tradition & love for hitting that second RB lottery pick remain strong. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/104 "2021-09-15T17:46:36Z")
I’m always in favor of pushing my leagues closer to industry standards. I don’t think changing the scoring structure in a keeper league is too workable for most big changes (like going PPR or HPPR). But I’m very in favor of swapping the kicker slot for a WR, and adding TE to the flex positions (making it R/W/T). Adding roster slots is a mixed bag, because it does change the keeper environment very slightly, but I’d be in favor of it as well. ---
**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/105 "2021-09-15T19:42:54Z")
Count me in as another person that would like to see an additional WR slot for next year and an expansion of the FLEX to W/R/T. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/106 "2021-09-15T21:44:19Z")
I don’t understand this trade at all. Murray is the only Ravens RB in game shape aside from Ty’son, and the Ravens are obviously intent on RBBC even with two thirds of their committee on IR. Still, even as a UCF homer I can’t see Murray having anything beyond occasional flex value. Sutton, on the other hand, is going to be a top-10 WR so long as his ACL holds up and Bridgewater continues to play well. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/107 "2021-09-15T22:17:01Z")
Murray couldn’t beat out rookie Tony Jones Jr., and, as RNATB pointed out, will be in a RBBC with a running QB/TD vulture at best. No way he’s worth a #1 WR on their team with Sutton’s upside. But dave is going for a threepeat, so what do I know? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/108 "2021-09-16T06:24:19Z")
I think it’s just a homer thing for him since he seems to be a pretty strong homer but that doesn’t seem to stop him from being very good, oddly enough. But I don’t think it’s quite as bad as you say - I think Murray mostly was let go because of his contact rather than being outplayed (he turned down NO asking for a salary reduction) and I think he’s got the best shot to be worth something in Baltimore, but even then, I agree Sutton is just worth more, which is why I had to make the trade even though it makes me even more WR deep and RB shallow. Can someone explain to me what dave was asking about in the league posts about resetting the waivers? I know he doesn’t like the 2 day waiver period after the draft, but I’m not quite sure what his issue was and what he was proposing. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/109 "2021-09-21T16:05:36Z")
Well, I went from second to last to the highest scoring team this week. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/110 "2021-09-22T02:43:22Z")
Woops, wrong post. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/111 "2021-09-29T06:17:57Z")
I have a question about rolling waivers. Let’s say I have 2 waiver claims: player A and player B. So it goes through the waiver claims in order. It checks who has waiver 1, processes them, then who has waiver 2, processes them. All the way until everyone has been processed. Then it gets to a second round of waiver claims for people’s second waiver claims. Let’s say I have waiver 10 and it gets to me. Now my waiver lists say to grab player A, and then the next waiver claim is B. If it gets to waiver 10, and player A was grabbed by someone else, but player B is available, does it pick up player B, or does it say “player A is gone, first waiver claim is processed and failed” and then go to the second round of waivers? At which point perhaps another player who has a higher waiver priority to me also grabs player B before it gets down to my 2nd round of waiver claim. Most leagues don’t use rolling waivers anymore but I have a vague recollection that it works in the former way - that a waiver claim for someone that isn’t there essentially skips “their turn” in waivers and goes to the next round. But I might be wrong. Does anyone know? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/112 "2021-09-29T14:38:14Z")
Nope, you’re incorrect. When your waiver turn is up, it’ll go through your list and process the first available and valid claim. If that’s claim #1 or #5, that’s what goes through. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/113 "2021-10-04T04:30:48Z")
FYI: London games are back next week so if you’ve got a Falcon or a Jet, be ready and have your lineup set early. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/114 "2021-10-10T15:11:18Z")
I accidentally clicked on Chase Edmonds instead of Peyton Barber when I picked up Perine this morning. I assume it’s obvious that I wouldn’t have dropped Edmonds, and I plan to start him today assuming he’s healthy. Can a commish fix that? ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/115 "2021-10-10T16:52:36Z")
Sorry, just getting to this… Edmonds is back on your roster, but you’ll have to move him back in to the starting lineup if you want. Sorry you have so little time - you didn’t make clear who you wanted him to replace. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/116 "2021-10-10T17:06:53Z")
Ugh, just realized I’m playing you this week - well that looks bad… The two players you probably would have switched Edmonds in for just started. I’m inclined to give you a little flexibility, assuming you reply somewhat soon… ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/117 "2021-10-10T19:53:06Z")
No biggie. I probably would have started him over AJ Dillon but I was expecting Mixon to be out so I was really planning to start Perine, hence I never really thought about Edmonds versus Dillon. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/118 "2021-10-10T20:27:34Z")
It looks like I’m gonna score 130 points despite basically only starting one RB. I’m looking to move DeAndre Hopkins (hasn’t played yet), DK Metcalf (21.80 this week), Antonio Brown (24.40), or Courtland Sutton (18.0) for a RB of roughly equal value, maybe even a small downgrade. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/119 "2021-10-11T14:10:07Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I should’ve just drafted Brady again instead of Herbert I’m taking this back now. Went from down at the bottom to highest scoring (by 30+ points!) this week. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/120 "2021-10-11T16:48:03Z")
Yeah not like it will make much difference… your QB might outscore my whole team. Also, I just realize I misread what you posted - you were dropping Barber, not Perine. That’s been corrected as well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348.md?page=7)