# He Hate Me Keeper League 2021 - Year 19

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [August 10, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348 "2021-08-10T01:06:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/121 "2021-10-11T18:53:47Z")

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Is week 5 too early to give up and trade for keepers? That’s about the only way trading Cooper Kupp for Henry Ruggs and Sam Darnold makes sense at all.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/122 "2021-10-11T22:05:32Z")

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Well, Week 6 really - he’s going to lose this week too. I’m the beneficiary of the trade, but I think a trade for keepers is always fair game, it’s the nature of keeper leagues.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/123 "2021-10-11T22:14:42Z")

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For you, never too early.

Edit: Actually, as a serious question, I don’t think this league has any sort of guidelines for tanking/giving up early, but it can be destabilizing if one team gives up a big non-keeper piece for a smaller keeper piece. Since you’re 3-2 currently I’m not sure if that was a sarcastic question or real.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/124 "2021-10-12T01:15:20Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Since you’re 3-2 currently I’m not sure if that was a sarcastic question or real.

Real question, just not about my team. I saw the Kupp for Ruggs and Darnold trade when I checked scores and the keeper value is the only reason it could have made any sense, and even then, it’s still horribly one-sided.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/125 "2021-10-12T01:20:01Z")

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Oh I didn’t see the trade. I thought you were asking as a hypothetical.

Has this league had lopsided trades like that before? Having the best team in the league get significantly better without significant costs doesn’t feel great, nor really does tanking from week 5, but I don’t think there’s any sort of rule about it unless this has been discussed before.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/126 "2021-10-12T14:55:52Z")

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Wait, if we trade keepers we get to keep that player the next year? I guess I’ve never done a trade on this league before.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/127 "2021-10-12T15:04:48Z")

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Yes - the keeper eligibility remains the same, as long as there was eligibility to begin with.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/128 "2021-10-12T15:38:10Z")

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Giving up in week 6 is bad form, even if you are 0-5. And it is hard to fathom this trade as anything other than giving up for this year. Shame on our defending champion.

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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/129 "2021-10-12T18:06:30Z")

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I’m pretty sure we’ve had trades like this before, but I don’t think one’s happened this early.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/130 "2021-10-13T20:15:38Z")

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I accidentally picked up Darrel Williams (KC) when I meant to pick up Damien Williams (Chi) after Montgomery went down. I didn’t drop him because I’m desperate enough that I need any RB I can get on my roster, and ended up lucking out when he became one of the big waiver wire targets this week.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/131 "2021-10-19T20:46:09Z")

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My team is just Josh Allen, Jonathan Taylor, Occasional Adam Thielen and Some Other People at this point. But it’s working - I’m only 7 points off the overall top score. I don’t think that can continue with the bye weeks though; my bench players are pretty awful and most of my starters aren’t very good either.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/132 "2021-10-20T03:21:28Z")

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Big matchup this week between filthy, depraved second place Carcosa Yellow Kings and glorious, beloved first place Exploding Pancakes.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/133 "2021-10-20T11:29:36Z")

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All hail the filthy masses!

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/134 "2021-10-20T14:54:50Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Big matchup this week between filthy, depraved second place Carcosa Yellow Kings and glorious, beloved first place Exploding Pancakes.

One, two, Big Mack Attack’s coming for you.

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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/135 "2021-10-20T18:21:55Z")

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Somehow, I’m 4-2 despite being last in team scoring. Clutch defense bay-bee!

And now I get to play Hermits on the Steelers bye week…

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/136 "2021-10-26T05:18:49Z")

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The forces of goodness and sex appeal and cheesecake have prevailed and noble Exploding Pancakes remains atop the standings at 6-1. Close game and a really annoying loss for Carcosa - he got the 3rd highest score in the league and still lost.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/137 "2021-11-02T19:24:58Z")

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Damn, my 6-1 team lost to a 1-6 team. This let Big Mac Attack catch up to me in record and now he’s the #1 seed because he is 100 points ahead of everyone else which is really impressive.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/138 "2021-11-02T20:33:17Z")

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What an incredibly depressed week of scoring. Hamlet’s 135 is really impressive.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/139 "2021-11-03T14:27:34Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> This let Big Mac Attack catch up to me in record and now he’s the #1 seed because he is 100 points ahead of everyone else which is really impressive

I did it all on the back on Derrick Henry. Now, let’s see what he’s projected to score this week…

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/140 "2021-11-06T22:40:51Z")

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I have 3 important players and an important backup on bye this week and I got hit by the Johnathan Taylor train, it looks like it’s going to be two losses in a row for me.

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