# He Hate Me Keeper League 2021 - Year 19

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [August 10, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348 "2021-08-10T01:06:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/161 "2021-11-28T02:55:32Z")

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Sorry, just got to this now. Made the change and put the Rams in your starting lineup.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/162 "2021-11-28T08:21:09Z")

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Thanks.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/163 "2021-11-28T21:27:56Z")

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If the current projections hold, 2nd through 6th place are all going to lose this week.

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**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/164 "2021-11-29T16:15:44Z")

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Unbelievable…

I didn’t start Lamb and Moss on purpose but based on my bench scores it wouldn’t have mattered. Good thing my defense scored 30 points!

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/165 "2021-11-29T21:49:46Z")

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Yikes, I put up an absolutely pathetic score. Got cute and decided to start Newton over Stafford which cost me 20 points. But mostly my team just laid a turd. Well, Swift was knocked out early in a game. I might not score 40 points.

After starting the season 6-1 I’ve had a terrible run and may miss the playoffs.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/166 "2021-11-30T20:02:14Z")

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I have the highest (152) and lowest (32) scores this season.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/167 "2021-11-30T23:00:42Z")

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You had some bye week help with that low score, but that’s even more impressive than Omni winning a game!

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/168 "2021-11-30T23:14:40Z")

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If I’m looking at the standings correctly, I think I’ve clinched a playoff spot, and I’ll get the #1 seed if I win either of my next two.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/169 "2021-11-30T23:19:23Z")

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Looks like it. There’s 2 guaranteed losses in the 7-5 group, which clinches it for you.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/170 "2021-12-01T18:59:14Z")

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Interestingly, my team has been hyper-consistent all year. I’ve scored at least 87 points every week (the lowest floor of any team by some margin), and over 110 in seven weeks, but I haven’t scored more than 127 points all year.

I’m only 5 points behind Bort for the top overall score, and if I beat him this week I will presumably become the highest-scoring team. Unfortunately, if I don’t beat him I probably won’t make the playoffs. The only other game between playoff contenders this week is Beef/Hamlet, and Beef’s team appears to be in the middle of an epic collapse. The only competitive games next week are between me and Hamlet, and dale and bort. So in theory everyone with a 7-5 or better record could win both weeks, except for me, Beef and Hamlet (and bort losing won’t help me unless I win both games anyway). If that happens, and I lose, I would probably end up on the outside looking in.

Munch must have annoyed the FF gods immensely because something similar happened to him last year as well - he finished with 1318.03 points, just 4.5 less than the #2 scoring team, but he had a final record of 7-6 and missed the playoffs. Wilson made the playoffs with the same record and a final score of 1318.75, and I made the playoffs with 1289 points and an 8-6 record. (For what it’s worth, both Wilson and I were booted in the first round.)

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/171 "2021-12-01T22:14:14Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Munch must have annoyed the FF gods immensely because something similar happened to him last year as well - he finished with 1318.03 points, just 4.5 less than the #2 scoring team, but he had a final record of 7-6 and missed the playoffs.

It was worse than that. I missed the tiebreaker by 0.64 points to make the playoffs. 7 yards across the entire season.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/172 "2021-12-06T17:48:21Z")

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Mathematical weirdness continues to abound. I will knock off bort comfortably this week, making me the points leader and elevating me to third place, but I still won’t be guaranteed a playoff spot. Dale, Beef (or Hamlet) and Munch are all going to win this week, and Wilson is a game ahead of me. So next week, we will all be tied at 8-5 for “second”, with bort and Mundi tied for first at 9-4. None of the 8-5 teams play each other next week, so they can all win, and they are all favored to win. If I lose to Hamlet and they _do_ all win, they will all jump to 9-5 and I will drop to 7th place and out of the playoffs (or possibly to 8th, if Hamlet beats me by a lot).

However, if I beat Hamlet and dale beats bort, I will leapfrog the latter and earn a bye. Despite a massive points lead I can’t jump Mundi because he beat me head-to-head, and H2H record is the first tiebreaker. So I could either earn a bye or a consolation bowl trip next week. Not a great time for Jonathan Williams’ bye…

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/173 "2021-12-06T17:56:40Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I can’t jump Mundi because he beat me head-to-head, and H2H record is the first tiebreaker.

I don’t believe that’s correct - yahoo states:

> In Fantasy Football:

- Total fantasy points (season total).
- Fantasy points scored in the most recently completed matchup.
- Fantasy points scored in the matchup two weeks prior (this continues until the tie is broken).

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/174 "2021-12-07T20:33:09Z")

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The H2H records this year are remarkably close. 10 teams are 9-4, 8-5, or 7-6.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/175 "2021-12-07T20:37:26Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Not a great time for Jonathan Williams’ bye…

You should be docked points for not even knowing your best player’s last name.

And I think it’s a great time for his bye.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/176 "2021-12-08T00:08:41Z")

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Ugh, pretty much the worse case scenario for me last week. I lost, #2 won, and I fell to 3rd in points. I could go from 1st to 4th this week.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/177 "2021-12-10T22:47:27Z")

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I was going to do the playoff scenarios today but it turns out I’m too busy. If anyone else wants to figure that out, that’d be great.

I’m pretty sure that if I win, I’m in, as the only person behind me with the same record is 200 points behind me. But with so many teams at 8-5 or 7-6, the last few spots are going to be competitive.

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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/178 "2021-12-16T20:04:54Z")

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Anybody mind if I change the League name to He Hate Me Some Covid?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/179 "2021-12-24T06:07:56Z")

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Well that’s not ideal. AJ Brown showed up for the first time all year.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348/180 "2021-12-27T00:26:07Z")

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God bless you, garbage time!

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