# He Hate Me Keeper League 2023 - year 21 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [July 7, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733 "2023-07-07T17:00:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/1 "2023-07-07T17:00:40Z")
Getting an earlier start this year… the league is up and invitations are sent. This league is now old enough to legally drink… Keeper Rules 1. You can only keep a maximum of 3 players. 2. You can only keep players drafted after the second round (third rounders or later only.) 3. A player can only be kept a maximum of twice. (Making 3 total roster years.) 4. A kept player incurs a two round penalty (e.g: drafted in the 6th, kept in the 4th.) **Hall of Fame** [2003 - Year 1](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sdmb-he-hate-me-he-hate-me-not-football-league/189924) Winner: mouthbreather [2004 - Year 2](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/upcoming-sdmb-fantasy-football-league/240522) Winner: Spiritus Mundi [2005 - Year 3](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yahoo-fantasy-football-signup-now-open/311152) Winner: Spiritus Mundi ([thread #2](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-mid-season-draft-review-2006/329270)) [2006 - Year 4](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league/359113) Winner: The Mad Hermit [2007 - Year 5](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-so-bad-ff-keeper-league/406801) Winner: Nurse Carmen [2008 - Year 6](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318) Winner: Weirddave [2009 - Year 7](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-yr-7/504074) Winner: VarlosZ [2010 - Year 8](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-8/548576) Winner: Weirddave [2011 - Year 9](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-9/591413) Winner: Really Not All That Bright [2012 - Year 10](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-10/625142) Winner: Really Not All That Bright [2013 - Year 11](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-11/659712) Winner: VarlosZ [2014 - Year 12](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-12/690989) Winner: Ottoerotic [2015 - Year 13](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-13/728013) Winner: Weirddave [2016 - Year 14](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-14/762435) Winner: motu [2017 - Year 15](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-ff-keeper-league-year-15/792572) Winner: Johnny Ace [2018 - Year 16](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242) Winner: dalej42 [2019 - Year 17](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-leage-2019-year-17/838974) Winner: Weirddave [2020 - Year 18](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2020-year-18/917277) Winner: Weirddave [2021 - Year 19](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2021-year-19/948348) Winner: AlsoNamedBort [2022 - Year 20](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2022-year-20/970337) Winner: Damar Hamlin (dalej42 and Wilson) I should have plenty of time to put together an eligible keeper list in the next few weeks. Draft time not set yet. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/2 "2023-07-09T11:49:13Z")
Thanks again Wilson for taking the lead on this. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/3 "2023-07-11T12:37:33Z")
Agreed! ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/4 "2023-07-12T19:25:37Z")
Here’s my attempt at eligible keepers. Please check my work… I only found two players who had been kept twice and were therefore ineligible - Jerry Jeudy (me) and Damien Harris (Baltimore Weirdos). Eligible traded playes are noted with the team that they ended with. Round is when they were drafted last year. Remember to add in the two round penalty! | Round | Player | Notes | | --- | --- | --- | | Exploding Pancakes | | | | 3 | Kyle Pitts | | | 4 | Kyler Murray | | | 5 | Marquise Brown | | | 6 | Kareem Hunt | | | 7 | Christian Kirk | | | 9 | David Njoku | | | 10 | J.K. Dobbins  | | | 12 | Dallas | | | 13 | Donovan Peoples-Jones | | | 14 | Evan McPherson | | | 15 | Christian Watson | | | Omnipotents | | | | 3 | Courtland Sutton | | | 4 | JuJu Smith-Schuster | | | 5 | Russell Wilson | | | 6 | Kenneth Walker III | | | 7 | James Cook | | | 9 | Justin Fields | | | 10 | San Francisco | | | 11 | Travis Etienne Jr.  | | | 13 | Justin Tucker | | | 14 | Cole Kmet  | | | Baltimore Weirdos | | | | 3 | DJ Moore | | | 3 | Elijah Mitchell | to Weirdos, from Frosty | | 4 | Allen Robinson II | | | 5 | Darren Waller | | | 6 | Amari Cooper | | | 9 | Kirk Cousins  | to Weirdos, from Frosty | | 13 | Hayden Hurst | | | Hermits | | | | 3 | Chase Claypool  | | | 4 | DK Metcalf | | | 5 | Clyde Edwards-Helaire | | | 6 | Adam Thielen | | | 7 | Matthew Stafford | | | 8 | Pat Freiermuth | | | 9 | Trevor Lawrence | | | 13 | Joshua Palmer | | | 14 | Jaylen Warren | | | (Frosty’s) Post Mahomes | | | | 5 | Dallas Goedert | | | 7 | Aaron Rodgers | | | 8 | Chris Olave | | | 13 | Amon-Ra St. Brown  | | | Chicago Cardinals | | | | 3 | Josh Allen | | | 4 | Josh Jacobs | | | 5 | Antonio Gibson | | | 6 | T.J. Hockenson | | | 7 | Michael Carter | | | 8 | Rhamondre Stevenson  | | | 9 | DeVante Parker  | | | 10 | Isiah Pacheco | | | 11 | Tua Tagovailoa | | | 12 | Rondale Moore | | | 14 | Jeff Wilson Jr. | | | 15 | Parris Campbell | | | Disgruntled Goats | | | | 3 | David Montgomery | | | 4 | Joe Burrow | | | 5 | Jalen Hurts | | | 6 | Michael Pittman Jr.  | | | 7 | Allen Lazard | | | 8 | Khalil Herbert | | | 10 | Tyler Boyd | | | 11 | Tampa Bay | | | 16 | Velus Jones Jr. | | | Can’t Chew the Leather 🐂 | | | | 3 | Terry McLaurin | | | 4 | Deebo Samuel  | | | 5 | Tom Brady | | | 6 | Melvin Gordon | | | 7 | DeVonta Smith | | | 10 | Mike Gesicki | | | 11 | Mecole Hardman Jr. | | | Fourth & Nineteen | | | | 3 | Patrick Mahomes | | | 4 | Jaylen Waddle | | | 6 | Cordarrelle Patterson | | | 7 | Drake London | | | 9 | Alexander Mattison | | | 10 | Jamaal Williams | | | 11 | Cam Akers  | | | 13 | Deshaun Watson | | | Moridwon (Hamlet) | | | | 3 | Diontae Johnson | | | 4 | Gabe Davis | | | 5 | Devin Singletary | | | 6 | Chris Godwin | | | 8 | Michael Thomas  | | | 9 | Raheem Mostert | | | 10 | Brian Robinson | | | 11 | Tyler Allgeier | | | 15 | Calvin Ridley | | | 16 | Jared Goff | | | Nine Inch Neils | | | | 4 | AJ Dillon  | | | 5 | Dalton Schultz | | | 6 | Brandon Aiyuk | | | 7 | Dak Prescott | | | 10 | Isaiah McKenzie | | | 10 | Treylon Burks | To Nine Inch Nails, from Carcosa | | 13 | Zamir White | | | 15 | Jameson Williams | | | Spiritus Mundane | | | | 3 | Dameon Pierce | | | 4 | Breece Hall | | | 6 | Tony Pollard | | | 7 | Derek Carr | | | 12 | Los Angeles | | | 13 | Gus Edwards | | | 14 | Michael Gallup | | | 16 | Wan’Dale Robinson | | | Carcosa Yellow Kings | | | | 3 | George Kittle | | | 4 | Lamar Jackson | | | 5 | Leonard Fournette  | | | 6 | Brandin Cooks | | | 7 | DeAndre Hopkins | | | 8 | Tyler Lockett | | | 9 | Kenneth Gainwell | | | 15 | Daniel Jones | | | Big Mack Attack | | | | 3 | Justin Herbert  | | | 4 | Ja’Marr Chase  | | | 5 | Miles Sanders | | | 6 | Darnell Mooney | | | 7 | Nyheim Hines | | | 8 | George Pickens | | | 9 | Rachaad White | | | 10 | Buffalo | | | 12 | Jahan Dotson | | ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/5 "2023-07-12T19:31:26Z")
Draft Order: | Pick | Team | | --- | --- | | 1 | Disgrunted Goats | | 2 | Nine Inch Neils | | 3 | Baltimore Weirdos | | 4 | Spiritus Mundane | | 5 | Moridwon (Hamlet) | | 6 | Hermits | | 7 | Exploding Pancakes | | 8 | Can’t Chew the Leather | | 9 | Big Mack Attach | | 10 | (Frosty’s) Post Mahomes | | 11 | Carcosa Yellow Kings | | 12 | Omnipotents | | 13 | Chicago Cardinals | | 14 | Fourth & Nineteen | ---
**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/6 "2023-07-14T13:45:01Z")
Looking forward to another season. Thanks **Wilson**! ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/7 "2023-07-14T15:16:42Z")
Ah, my final chance to ride Ja’Marr to victory. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/8 "2023-07-14T15:30:39Z")
If you’re like me and want to know what actual picks these correspond to, here’s a handy chart: > **[snake-draft-14-teams.pdf](https://www.printyourbrackets.com/images/snake-draft-14-teams.pdf)** > > 75.14 KB ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/9 "2023-07-16T18:56:31Z")
My eligible keepers are: AJ Dillon (taken in round 4) Brandon Aiyuk (taken in round 6) Dalton Schulz (taken in round 5) Dak Prescott (taken in round 7 last year) Treylon Burks (taken in round 10) Isaiah McKenzie (taken in round 10) Isaiah Spiller (taken in round 12) Zamir White (taken in round 13) Jameson Williams (taken in round 15) AJ Dillon only has one year of eligibility remaining. Way-too-early keeper prediction: Aiyuk (r4), White (r11), Williams (r13). ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/10 "2023-07-17T15:25:13Z")
You didn’t draft Isaiah Spiller - you picked him up off of waivers, so he’s not eligible. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/11 "2023-07-18T01:10:52Z")
How does pre draft trading work in this league? Can traded players be kept? Is trading a player for draft picks allowed? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/12 "2023-07-19T13:32:36Z")
Ah that explains it. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/13 "2023-07-27T17:38:30Z")
> [@Wilson](#): > > (Frosty’s) Post Mahomes > |5| Dallas Goedert > |7| Aaron Rodgers > |8| Chris Olave > |13| Amon-Ra St. Brown  I’m definitely keeping 2 players but I will probably keep the max of 3 this season. Looking forward to a month of flip flopping on whether or not I feel like taking a Round 5 A-Rod 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/14 "2023-08-08T11:50:13Z")
Okay I screwed up and somehow accepted my league invitation from the wrong Yahoo account. So now my HHM and Dynasty leagues are not accessible without logging out of the apps. Can a commissioner remove me as team owner of Nine Inch Nails and then invite me back? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/15 "2023-08-11T03:29:51Z")
_bump_ ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/16 "2023-08-11T17:35:06Z")
Sending you a PM, RNATB. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/17 "2023-08-15T16:45:03Z")
Still waiting on @SenorBeef and @Hamlet to join up… also one more team owner but I’m not honestly sure who it is (team name Can’t Chew the Leather). ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/18 "2023-08-15T19:00:21Z")
I’m in. As of now, I’ll be keeping Brian Robinson in the 8th round, Tyler Allgeier in the 9th, and Calvin Ridley in the 13th. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/19 "2023-08-16T15:40:48Z")
I’m in but I’ll have to find the sign up later ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/20 "2023-08-18T14:28:49Z")
Barring injury, my keepers are: Ja’Marr Chase Rachaad White Jahan Dotson [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733.md?page=2)