# He Hate Me Keeper League 2023 - year 21 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [July 7, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733 "2023-07-07T17:00:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/81 "2023-10-31T11:55:38Z")
The #1 team is dead last in points scored. I truly hate this league. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/82 "2023-11-02T12:27:17Z")
I just noticed this for the first time. Bleh. Sanders was starting for Carolina until an injury. Last week was his first game back so they may have been easing him in, but he has not been effective. I put that down to horrible OL play. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/83 "2023-11-08T22:04:42Z")
So…do we have any history of the commissioner overriding a waiver deadline in the case of a Thursday game? I’m stuck without a QB and I want to start Bagent who was just dropped today. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/84 "2023-11-09T22:11:44Z")
I dont tecall that, but we have allowed trades going through with Commish aid, so I wouldnt object at all. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/85 "2023-11-09T22:45:40Z")
I picked up Minshew and slotted him in. I sent @Wilson a DM but not sure how engaged he is on the boards. If the commish chimes in before kickoff and green lights it I’d definitely prefer Bagent going tonight over Minshew. I’ll be at the game which adds a little sugar to watching Bagent. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/86 "2023-11-10T05:09:19Z")
I’m calling this a win. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/87 "2023-11-11T23:56:43Z")
Sorry, on vacation this week, wasn’t able to get in front of a computer till now. I’m not sure that has ever come up - overriding the waiver deadline for a Thursday game. I’m not sure how I feel about that / would have felt about it. In my mind, it’s no different from someone who is dropped Friday/Saturday before their game on Sunday - they won’t clear waivers before the game. If you want, we can poll managers to see what they think… ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/88 "2023-11-12T01:45:40Z")
Honestly, I think having to wait for waivers is kind of what you just need to deal with in this league. _However_, I do think the waiver period should be a day shorter to account for Thursday night games. I don’t even know if a 24 hour waiver period is an option. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/89 "2023-11-12T14:30:25Z")
I’m with Munch - waivers are waivers. Apart from anything else, what do you do if there are competing claims and the one without priority _doesn’t_ need an override? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/90 "2023-11-12T15:40:14Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > _However_, I do think the waiver period should be a day shorter to account for Thursday night games. I don’t even know if a 24 hour waiver period is an option. It looks like waiver time is a league setting. I’d vote to move it to 24 hours next season. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/91 "2023-11-13T16:23:14Z")
Wow, the top 4 teams (and #6) all lose this week. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/92 "2023-11-21T16:24:21Z")
No one wants to run away with this thing, do they? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/93 "2023-11-21T17:09:13Z")
Its a weird year for sure. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/94 "2023-11-21T17:47:06Z")
I’ve never been so happy to have a tie on my record. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/95 "2023-11-28T15:59:18Z")
Thank you Zay Flowers for doing the selfish thing and getting a touchdown, when getting just a first down would’ve been enough to win the game. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/96 "2023-12-04T10:34:51Z")
The playoff race is extremely tight, with almost the whole league having 6-8 wins after this week, including 6 players with 7 wins. And a lot of the tiebreakers (points) are close enough that some people may overtake others next week. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/97 "2023-12-05T18:30:21Z")
Looks like there are a couple of scenarios where an 8-win team would get left out of the playoffs. I think there have been years where we’ve had more parity, but it’s been a really long time, and never with as much turmoil at the top. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/98 "2023-12-05T19:48:42Z")
My clear and easy path to the top six bracket: Frosty loses to Carcosa Yellow Kings Exploding Pancakes loses to Big Mack Attack Go Cowboys Scotty loses to Chicago Cardinals Hamlet doesn’t win AND outscore me by more than 2.2 points Baltimore Weirdo’s doesn’t win AND oustcore me by more that 31.4 points I beat Omniscient AND outscore Exploding Pancakes by 14.7 points or more AND outscore Frosty by 20.13 points or more I think I’ve got that right… easy peasy! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/99 "2023-12-05T23:10:54Z")
Yeah, I’m not even going to try to figure out the playoff scenarios in this league, there are like a dozen moving parts for every one. It would actually be a cool feature for fantasy sites if they would do the math and describe all of the playoff scenarios in the league. ---
**Author:** ![motu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/motu/32/259_2.png) [@motu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/motu)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/100 "2023-12-06T00:45:37Z")
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