# He Hate Me Keeper League 2023 - year 21

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [July 7, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733 "2023-07-07T17:00:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/101 "2023-12-06T06:19:48Z")

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The craziest thing about this season is that the last place team is only 3 games out of a playoff spot and 4.5 games out of first place. He’s also got the 4th highest point total…in a 14-team league. With a loss the highest point total has a good chance of missing the playoffs. Complete madness.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/102 "2023-12-11T05:19:45Z")

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We appear to be closing in on quite the playoff log jam. Still 2 games to play this week but we may end up with like 5 teams tied for 3rd place with one week to go.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/103 "2023-12-11T07:16:42Z")

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This is the last week of the regular season

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/104 "2023-12-12T05:04:49Z")

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If I’m looking at this right, it looks like Hamlet is jumping up to grab the last playoff spot?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/105 "2023-12-12T06:37:36Z")

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Once the results are official, I think we’ll have this playoff seeding.

1. Big Mack Attack at 9-4-1
2. Carcosa Yellow Kings 9-5
3. Chicago Cardinals 8-6
4. Omnipotents 8-6
5. Hermits 8-6
6. Moridwon (Hamlet) 7-7
7. Frosty’s Post Mahomes 7-7
8. Exploding Pancakes 7-7
9. Baltimore Weirdos 7-7
10. Go Cowboys Scotty 7-7

I’m just eyeballing the total points for, and some of these spots are separated by single digits. I may have it wrong. But even so that is one spectacular outcome for the last playoff spot.

Edit: Even crazier, I won by less than 7 points. If that game goes the other way we’d have 7 teams at 7-7.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/106 "2023-12-12T11:35:07Z")

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Well, after starting the season losing to Frosty in what was the most pathetic game this league has ever seen (48.70 - 43.63) I redeemed myself by beating him with the 4th worst win total on the season. How I went from 0-3 to a first round bye is a testament to how ~~terrible we all are~~ crazy this league is.

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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/107 "2023-12-12T16:47:14Z")

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That was quite the combination of results that jumped Hamlet up to sixth and the main bracket.

My team certainly collapsed down the stretch (6-3 then lost five in a row to finish 6-8) - but I always thought my good record at the start was smoke and mirrors.

Good luck to all in the playoffs! And for those finishing 7-12, don’t forget there is a consolation bracket, the winner of which gets the first pick in next year’s draft.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/108 "2023-12-12T20:48:24Z")

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After losing Ekeler, Taylor, and Higgins for chunks of the year and getting absolutely nowhere after putting out trade offers to QB needy teams for Allen or Herbert, I’m a bit surprised I made the playoffs. I don’t think I have much of a shot with Taylor still out, but as this season has once again shown, anything can happen in fantasy football.

Good luck everyone.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/109 "2023-12-19T05:52:42Z")

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Absolute pig of a game but I survived against Hermits. Bummer he got burned by Tyreek’s late scratch but doesn’t appear it would have made a difference. Incidentally I lost in my big money league with Tyreek the same way, fortunately that also wouldn’t have been decisive. Though his injury last week cost me a bye, so…

Now I get to test myself against Jake Browning in the semis.

Hamlet’s miracle run ends with a whimper in spite of an absolute turd of a game from the Cowboys and Dak.

In keeping with the chaos of the season, the bottom seed in the consolation bracket put up a monster game.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/110 "2023-12-20T03:51:51Z")

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I had a relatively good team. I was outscored by most of the playoff teams by ~15 points in total over the course of the season. But this is the most useless 143-point outing ever, really.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/111 "2023-12-26T18:38:10Z")

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And here we go. A rematch of the 2018 championship (hopefully with the opposite result). Disappointingly, looks like I won’t be able to finish the season with Ja’Marr Chase, who carried me these last three years.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/112 "2023-12-26T19:58:13Z")

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I’m kinda relieved I didn’t make the finals. My team is depleted, and I get a slightly better draft pick for next year. I was watching the Bengals game and was mad as hell they didn’t kick a field goal in the red zone, and went for 2 at least once. But I’m even more glad they went for 2 - if they had kicked one more PAT, I’d have lost by 1 yard (rush/rec)!

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/113 "2023-12-31T23:39:35Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Overall: If the geriatric RB crew can keep it together, this team could be competitive. But I think one or the other of them will break down

Well, it took all season, but this prediction finally came true at the worst possible time.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/114 "2024-01-03T16:25:56Z")

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Post-mortem:

In the end, I have no one to blame but myself. If I hadn’t touched my lineup at all from last week I would’ve won easily. But I felt I needed Chase in there even though he was still struggling to return from injury. (and let’s face it, I don’t think trusting the Packers who just let _Carolina_ score 30 points would’ve been wise).

Oh well. Last time I came in second, I ended up languishing at the bottom the next two years. I’m hoping to avoid a repeat. I won’t have Chase anymore and I’ll be picking at the end, but I think with Zay Flowers (Round 8) and Rashee Rice (Round 14!) locked up the next two years I should be able to build a formidable team again.

Congrats to @dalej42. I’ll see you again in 5 years.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-2023-year-21/986733/115 "2024-01-04T01:35:47Z")

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Nice work, Dale - that was a dominant season in a really weird season for the league.

Bort, I’m not sure many of us would have set a different lineup. Maybe I’d have gone with GB’s defense, but that wouldn’t have pushed you over. Bench points suck.

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