# He Hate Me Keeper League - Year 16

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 20, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242 "2018-07-20T00:03:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/41 "2018-09-03T04:47:19Z")

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FYI, **dave** is keeping Amendola in the 14th.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/42 "2018-09-03T06:26:52Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Can we trade keeper rights? I have an embarrassment of riches.

Ah shit, I forgot to bring up the issue for a vote with the controversy last year. I’m inclined to say rights for draft pick swaps stirred up a shitload of problems and shouldn’t be allowed, but swapping the rights between two players would be okay. What sort of deal are you looking to make?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/43 "2018-09-03T06:29:21Z")

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Keeping

Jay Ajayi 5th  
Alvin Kamara 8th  
Chris Carson 9th

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/44 "2018-09-03T07:09:30Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Ah shit, I forgot to bring up the issue for a vote with the controversy last year. I’m inclined to say rights for draft pick swaps stirred up a shitload of problems and shouldn’t be allowed, but swapping the rights between two players would be okay. What sort of deal are you looking to make?

I got 4 worthwhile keepers and can only use 3. Figure _someone_ might be willing to do a pick swap in the middle rounds in exchange for the keeper rights to a certain tight end.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/45 "2018-09-03T08:00:27Z")

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That’s the same thing I did last year (in a different round) and it didn’t go over that well - even people who acknowledged that it was a legal move within the rules didn’t like it - but I forgot about the whole thing and never held a vote about it. I don’t think anyone will care that much if we’re just talking about a middle round swap. I don’t know. Opinions?

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**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/46 "2018-09-03T12:53:29Z")

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I’m about to go in for my heart catheterization, so I say good luck to all who are drafting.

I’ll keep Tyreek Hill, Matt Ryan and Nelson Agholor

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/47 "2018-09-03T13:20:00Z")

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I’ll keep Graham and Diggs

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/48 "2018-09-03T13:26:17Z")

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Dumb question: are other peoples’ keepers going to be listed as “already drafted” while we’re doing the live draft? or do I have to remember who has been drafted AND kept

ETA: Wait, does that mean I can’t keep David Johnson? Aw man, I would have loved him.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/49 "2018-09-03T16:36:05Z")

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Yes, once keepers are declared I’ll enter the keepers into the system and they’ll be automatically drafted in the slot they’re kept with. They won’t be available, you can’t accidentally take them.

I’m afraid so on the David Johnson thing. I wish there was something better we could do to new incoming players than to randomly assign them an old roster, but that’s how we’ve done it and the only thing offhand that makes sense. To be fair no one really has a lot of amazing keepers this year, although mine are very good.

You can make your mark on your team by how you draft this year, which will allow you to set up your own keepers next year. It’s usually a good idea to use some of those late round picks on guys you think might be worth keeping next year.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/50 "2018-09-03T21:03:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Nine Inch Neils  
> 3. (36) Alshon Jeffery (Phi - WR)  
> \*4. (49) Ameer Abdullah  (Det - RB)  
> 5. (64) Zach Ertz (Phi - TE)  
> 6. (77) Eric Decker (NE - WR)  
> 7. (92) Thomas Rawls (NYJ - RB)  
> 10. (133) Tyrod Taylor (Cle - QB)  
> 12. (161) DeAndre Washington (Oak - RB)  
> 13. (176) Devin Funchess (Car - WR)  
> 14. (189) New York (NYG - DEF)  
> 16. (217) Matt Prater (Det - K)

I’ll be keeping Funchess in the 11th and Zach Ertz in the third. I’m open to moving back in the draft in exchange for the rights to keep a third player, assuming we didn’t outlaw that.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/51 "2018-09-03T21:23:50Z")

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Omnipotents  
3. (32) Doug Martin (Oak - RB)  
4. (53) Philip Rivers (LAC - QB)  
**6. (81) Michael Thomas  (NO - WR)**  
**9. (116) Corey Davis (Ten - WR)**  
**11. (144) Carson Wentz (Phi - QB)**  
13. (172) Kendall Wright (Min - WR)  
14. (193) Carolina (Car - DEF)  
15. (200) David Njoku (Cle - TE)

I bolded my keepers. I reserve the right to swap Davis for Njoku later on.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/52 "2018-09-03T22:57:01Z")

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Moridwon (Hamlet)  
I’ll be keeping:

Matt Breida (SF - RB) - 9th round  
Davante Adams (GB - WR) - 10th round  
Aaron Jones (GB - RB) - 12th round

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/53 "2018-09-04T06:18:14Z")

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We still need to hear keeper declarations from Dale, Sir T-Cups and his wife.

The draft is tomorrow, in about 18 hours.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/54 "2018-09-04T06:23:24Z")

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I am only keeping Julian Edelman in the 15th.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/55 "2018-09-04T06:41:51Z")

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> [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](#):
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> I’m about to go in for my heart catheterization, so I say good luck to all who are drafting.
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> I’ll keep Tyreek Hill, Matt Ryan and Nelson Agholor

Good luck with the medical stuff.

Did you intend to keep Tyreek Hill in round 1? He’s listed on your eligible keepers as being (3), but as I clarified in the post, those were last year’s draft results, and so to keep a player this year requires a bump up of two rounds.

You may not be around to answer that question, and plan to auto draft, so I’m not quite sure what to do in this situation. He’d be keeping Tyreek Hill at 9th overall, which would be early for him, which makes me think he misunderstood which round he’d be keeping him in. Or maybe he’s super high on Tyreek, and realizing that some top 10 picks are off the board, the #9 pick might not be a crazy place to take him. I don’t know. Opinions?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/56 "2018-09-04T06:54:08Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> I am only keeping Julian Edelman in the 15th.

It’ll actually be the 13th, 15th is where he was drafted last year.

[Keepers and draft order are in](https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/220806/draftresults?drafttab=team), double check that everything is right with your team.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/57 "2018-09-04T06:57:27Z")

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Does anyone here happen to also want to play in the [big league](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=859030) here? We need 1 more to get to 18 to have a normal head to head league. Draft is on Wednesday.

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**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/58 "2018-09-04T08:24:02Z")

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Just waiting for my ride to the hospital. I’m gonna use my #1 pick on Hill as a gamble, yes.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/59 "2018-09-04T13:21:27Z")

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No keepers for either me or the Mrs.

I think she should keep Commander Shepard, but she’s not having it.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/60 "2018-09-04T13:26:07Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> I got 4 worthwhile keepers and can only use 3. Figure _someone_ might be willing to do a pick swap in the middle rounds in exchange for the keeper rights to a certain tight end.

I remain opposed to this in principle. I thought we had actually voted on that last yea in Yahoo (not in SDMB thread) but I can’t find a record of it. Regardless - I will not raise a Johnny Ace style stink about it if it happens this year, but would like to at least put it to a formal rules vote so we remove ambiguity going forward.

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