# He Hate Me Keeper League - Year 16 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 20, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242 "2018-07-20T00:03:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/81 "2018-09-05T21:40:04Z")
And I thought Jamaal Williams was a bit of a reach at the time… Yahoo rated my draft as an A. I was shocked when I saw that, because I did almost no prep. But to be honest, I was using ADP and their ranking a fair amount as I built my queue (adjusting a bit for personal preference), so maybe it’s not so surprising. Plus Yahoo probably overvalues all my old WRs in this format. My biggest regret at this point is the Darnold pick. I would probably been better off getting a safe backup like Alex Smith, because it’s real easy to see a scenario where Deshaun is hurt again and Darnold loses the job to McCown or something. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/82 "2018-09-06T16:17:41Z")
I got a D- minus on my draft and am SUPER excited to finish last. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/83 "2018-09-09T08:17:37Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > **Omnipotents** > > 1. Melvin Gordon (LAC - RB) > 2. Devonta Freeman (Atl - RB) > 3. Josh Gordon (Cle - WR) > 4. Michael Thomas  (NO - WR) > 5. Tevin Coleman (Atl - RB) > 6. Sony Michel (NE - RB) > 7. Corey Davis  (Ten - WR) > 8. Alshon Jeffery (Phi - WR) > 9. Carson Wentz  (Phi - QB) > 10. Jack Doyle (Ind - TE) > 11. Denver (Den - DEF) > 12. D.J. Moore (Car - WR) > 13. Jake Elliott (Phi - K) > 14. Baker Mayfield (Cle - QB) > 15. Cameron Meredith (NO - WR) > 16. Elijah McGuire (NYJ - RB) > > Best Keeper: Michael Thomas in the 4th. Top 5 WR in the 4th round is pretty darn good. > > Best non-keeper pick: Cameron Meredith in the 15th has both potential value this year and next. Personally, I’m not seeing it, though. > > Best keeper pick: DJ Moore in the 12th is good (It’d be great if I trusted Cam to throw the ball), as well as Baker Mayfield in the 14th. But I’d worry that you don’t have a starting QB at all for week 1 and possibly beyond. > > Worst pick: Leaving yourself without a starting QB is pretty bad. But I think Josh Gordon in the 3rd was a reach too. Luckily, when you have Thomas, you can make those kinds of reaches. > > Overall: Another scary team. If the Gordon twins live up to their potential, this team will be awesome. Good starters, pretty good depth, and some huge upside (I see you Corey Davis!) makes this team one to beat. Unless it beats itself without Wentz. I had a plan and I like how it worked out at QB. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/84 "2018-09-10T00:44:29Z")
Not bad for the autodrafted team, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/85 "2018-09-11T14:38:33Z")
Another week where the #1 scorer beats the #2 scorer. That seems to happen more than by chance, but it’s probably just confirmation bias. Anyway, I’m in last, and my TE starter is done for the season. My three highest individual scorers last week where my #2 QB, my #4 RB and my #WR, all on the bench. Gonna be another long season… ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/86 "2018-09-11T14:41:54Z")
So I’m drawing a blank on this, which is embarrassing for someone who is now the commissioner. How do we handle waiver wire in this league? Do we just use the default Yahoo settings, or is it something more complicated? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/87 "2018-09-11T14:56:37Z")
Not the best start, but thank goodness that DST maxes out at 35 points against… ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/88 "2018-09-11T16:26:45Z")
> [@Wilson](#): > > Another week where the #1 scorer beats the #2 scorer. That seems to happen more than by chance, but it’s probably just confirmation bias. Turns out it’s pretty noticible when it happens to you. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/89 "2018-09-11T22:36:45Z")
> [@Wilson](#): > > So I’m drawing a blank on this, which is embarrassing for someone who is now the commissioner. > How do we handle waiver wire in this league? Do we just use the default Yahoo settings, or is it something more complicated? We’ve been using the yahoo default for as long as the league has been open I think, which is a rolling list. It’s kind of old fashioned and I use FAAB (auction style) in my leagues, but I figured I introduced enough changes a few years ago and didn’t try to push that one. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/90 "2018-09-14T02:18:17Z")
Man…that Dalton stop gap is working out fantastic tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/91 "2018-09-15T13:41:24Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > We’ve been using the yahoo default for as long as the league has been open I think, which is a rolling list. It’s kind of old fashioned and I use FAAB (auction style) in my leagues, but I figured I introduced enough changes a few years ago and didn’t try to push that one. I’d be very open to going to a FAAB system for free agents. I think it’s a better system. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/92 "2018-09-24T21:15:10Z")
Can we keep anyone that we pick up on waivers or can keepers only come from the original draft? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/93 "2018-09-24T21:18:38Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Can we keep anyone that we pick up on waivers or can keepers only come from the original draft? Original draft only. And you can’t drop them at any time during the season and pick them up later. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/94 "2018-09-27T12:09:56Z")
Here are some rankings showing actual points you scored, potential points you could have scored if you started only the highest scorers on your team, and the percentage of actual / potential. Potential is a measure of how well you assemble your team through the draft, trades, and waivers. Coach is a measure of how well you choose your starters. Actual is the combination of the two. This is just the Week 1 stats. Week 2 to follow shortly, and then Week 3 either tonight or tomorrow. New weeks will be posted on Wednesdays to give yahoo time to make stat corrections. **He Hate Me - Week 1** \*\*Rnk Week 1…Actual 1. Hermit…148.74 2. Beef…132.93 3. Munch…128.97 4. Hamlet…115.53 5. dale…114.33 6. Twife…112.00 7. Omni…101.20 8. Weird…89.27 9. Mundi…85.23 10. RNATB…84.33 11. Tcups…84.10 12. enalzi…75.63 13. motu…74.53 14. Wilson…67.77\*\* \*\*Rnk Week 1…Potential 1. Hermit…158.14 2. Beef…146.80 3. Munch…144.97 4. Twife…137.20 5. Hamlet…124.23 6. dale…119.23 7. Wilson…112.67 8. Mundi…109.03 9. Omni…103.90 10. Weird…102.00 11. enalzi…100.33 12. Tcups…98.90 13. RNATB…89.73 14. motu…87.43\*\* \*\*Rnk Week 1…Coach. 1. Omni…97% A+ 2. dale…96% A 3. Hermit…94% A 4. RNATB…94% A 5. Hamlet…93% A- 6. Beef…91% A- 7. Munch…89% B+ 8. Weird…88% B+ 9. motu…85% B 10. Tcups…85% B 11. Twife…82% B- 12. Mundi…78% C+ 13. enalzi…75% C 14. Wilson…60% D-\*\* Strong start by The Mad Hermit! If anyone would like their name changed to something else, let me know. In order to keep the tables readable on a phone, I’d prefer to keep the names to 7 or 8 characters max. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/95 "2018-09-27T12:43:29Z")
The green and red numbers show your change in ranking for that table compared to the previous week. If you were 5th last week, and are 3rd this week, you would see a +2. Note that Week 1 stats don’t show season totals because there’s no point, but the season 1 stats do exist; they’re the same as your week 1 stats. **He Hate Me - Week 2** \*\*Rnk Week 2…Actual…Rnk Season…Actual 1. Mundi +8…141.80…01. Hermit…272.81 2. Hermit -1…124.07…02. Munch +1…229.04 3. RNATB +7…123.47…03. Mundi +6…227.03 4. Omni +3…116.30…04. Omni +3…217.50 5. motu +8…115.43…05. Beef -3…207.90 6. enalzi +6…113.77…06. RNATB +4…207.80 7. Weird +1…101.67…07. Hamlet -3…192.13 8. Munch -5…100.07…08. Weird…190.94 9. Tcups +2…92.64…09. motu +4…189.96 10. Wilson +4…84.13…10. enalzi +2…189.40 11. Hamlet -7…76.60…11. dale -6…179.39 12. Beef -10…74.97…12. Tcups -1…176.74 13. dale -8…65.06…13. Twife -7…166.07 14. Twife -8…54.07…14. Wilson…151.90\*\* \*\*Rnk Week 2…Potential…Rnk Season…Potential 1. Mundi +7…161.27…01. Hermit…290.51 2. RNATB +11…133.07…02. Mundi +6…270.30 3. Hermit -2…132.37…03. Munch…253.14 4. Weird +6…128.64…04. Beef -2…241.90 5. enalzi +6…126.77…05. Weird +5…230.64 6. Omni +3…116.63…06. Hamlet -1…230.03 7. motu +7…115.43…07. enalzi +4…227.10 8. Tcups +4…109.24…08. RNATB +5…222.80 9. Munch -6…108.17…09. Omni…220.53 10. Hamlet -5…105.80…10. Wilson -3…217.47 11. Wilson -4…104.80…11. Twife -7…208.70 12. Beef -10…95.10…12. Tcups…208.14 13. Twife -9…71.50…13. motu +1…202.86 14. dale -8…70.46…14. dale -8…189.69\*\* \*\*Rnk Week 2…Coach…Rnk Season…Coach. 1. motu +8…100% A+…01. Omni…99% A+ 2. Omni -1…100% A+…02. dale…95% A 3. Hermit…94% A…03. Hermit…94% A 4. RNATB…93% A-…04. motu +5…94% A 5. Munch +2…93% A-…05. RNATB -1…93% A 6. dale -4…92% A-…06. Munch +1…90% A- 7. enalzi +6…90% B+…07. Beef -1…86% B 8. Mundi +4…88% B+…08. Tcups +2…85% B 9. Tcups +1…85% B…09. Mundi +3…84% B 10. Wilson +4…80% B-…10. Hamlet -5…84% B 11. Weird -3…79% C+…11. enalzi +2…83% B 12. Beef -6…79% C+…12. Weird -4…83% B- 13. Twife -2…76% C…13. Twife -2…80% C+ 14. Hamlet -9…72% C-…14. Wilson…70% D+\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/96 "2018-09-27T16:27:44Z")
Love the names you’ve given us =) ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/97 "2018-09-28T08:06:48Z")
**He Hate Me - Week 3** \*\*Rnk Week 3…Actual…Rnk Season…Actual 1. Munch +7…127.20…01. Hermit…387.95 2. Wilson +8…122.33…02. Munch…356.24 3. Hamlet +8…118.00…03. Mundi…330.50 4. Hermit -2…115.14…04. Hamlet +3…310.13 5. Weird +2…112.80…05. RNATB +1…305.74 6. Mundi -5…103.47…06. Weird +2…303.74 7. RNATB -4…97.94…07. Beef -2…293.92 8. enalzi -2…89.47…08. Omni -4…284.50 9. Tcups…86.37…09. enalzi +1…278.87 10. Beef +2…86.02…10. Wilson +4…274.23 11. motu -6…77.43…11. motu -2…267.39 12. dale +1…76.40…12. Tcups…263.11 13. Omni -9…67.00…13. dale -2…255.79 14. Twife…65.00…14. Twife -1…231.07\*\* \*\*Rnk Week 3…Potential…Rnk Season…Potential 1. Weird +3…141.30…01. Hermit…407.85 2. Wilson +9…130.23…02. Mundi…393.67 3. Munch +6…129.60…03. Munch…382.74 4. Mundi -3…123.37…04. Weird +1…371.94 5. Hamlet +5…123.10…05. Beef -1…361.26 6. Beef +6…119.36…06. Hamlet…353.13 7. Hermit -4…117.34…07. Wilson +3…347.70 8. RNATB -6…108.67…08. RNATB…331.47 9. Twife +4…99.53…09. enalzi -2…322.64 10. Tcups -2…96.47…10. Twife +1…308.23 11. enalzi -6…95.54…11. Tcups +1…304.61 12. motu -5…91.03…12. Omni -3…296.86 13. dale +1…89.00…13. motu…293.89 14. Omni -8…76.33…14. dale…278.69\*\* \*\*Rnk Week 3…Coach…Rnk Season…Coach. 1. Munch +4…98% A+…01. Omni…96% A 2. Hermit +1…98% A+…02. Hermit +1…95% A 3. Hamlet +11…96% A…03. Munch +3…93% A 4. Wilson +6…94% A…04. RNATB +1…92% A- 5. enalzi +2…94% A…05. dale -3…92% A- 6. RNATB -2…90% A-…06. motu -2…91% A- 7. Tcups +2…90% B+…07. Hamlet +3…88% B+ 8. Omni -6…88% B+…08. enalzi +3…86% B 9. dale -3…86% B…09. Tcups -1…86% B 10. motu -9…85% B…10. Mundi -1…84% B 11. Mundi -3…84% B…11. Weird +1…82% B- 12. Weird -1…80% C+…12. Beef -5…81% B- 13. Beef -1…72% C-…13. Wilson +1…79% C+ 14. Twife -1…65% D…14. Twife -1…75% C\*\* ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/98 "2018-09-30T17:36:45Z")
Looks like that sudden Brady decline may be happening. In retrospect, it’s a good thing I drafted Goff as a backup. On the downside, I sat him this week when he scored 45 points. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/99 "2018-10-02T02:29:53Z")
It’s been a long time since I’ve had a matchup in which I’m completely dependent on a kicker to squeeze out a win in the Monday night game ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242/100 "2018-10-02T20:55:32Z")
Somehow I’ve gone 4-0, with my starting RBs averaging 10 points combined a game. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-keeper-league-year-16/818242.md?page=6)