# He Hate Me Some Me FF Keeper League **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 29, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318 "2008-04-29T04:09:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/1 "2008-04-29T04:09:44Z")
**Schedule** Signup Begins: First week of June Signup Deadline: Thursday 7/31/08 Offseason Trade Deadline: Tuesday 8/19/08 Keeper Declaration: Tuesday 8/26/08 Live Draft: Monday 9/1/08 (Labor Day) at 10:30pm ET **Keeper Rules** 1. You can only keep a maximum of 3 players. 2. You can only keep players drafted after the third round. (Fourth rounders or later only.) 3. A player can only be kept a maximum of twice. (Making 3 total roster years.) 4. A kept player incures a two round penalty. (e.g: drafted in the 6th, kept in the 4th.) **Hall of Fame** Year 1 winner: mouthbreather Year 2 winner: Spiritus Mundi Year 3 winner: Spiritus Mundi Year 4 winner: The Mad Hermit Year 5 winner: Nurse Carmen **Draft Order, Year 6** 1. VarlosZ 2. Munch 3. Ellis Dee 4. Weirddave 5. neuroman 6. BabaBooey 7. Wilson 8. Hamlet 9. Omniscient 10. Jimmy Chitwood 11. The Mad Hermit 12. Spiritus Mundi 13. furt 14. Nurse Carmen **League History** **2003 Season 1** [The SDMB “He Hate Me, He Hate Me Not” Football League](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=199147) **2004 Season 2** [Upcoming SDMB fantasy football league…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=251453) [He Hate Me Keeper League Mid-Season Review](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=286234) [SDMB H.H.M. Keeper League Rules Ballot.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=290993) **2005 Season 3** [Yahoo fantasy football signup now open…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=324132) [He Hate Me Keeper League Mid-Season Draft Review 2006](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=342937) Season wrap-up [post=7136352]here[/post] **2006 Season 4** [He Hate Me FF keeper league](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=374061) Season wrap-up [post=8131857]here[/post] **2007 Season 5** [He Hate Me So Bad FF keeper league](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=423632) Season wrap-up [post=9386723]here[/post] **Eligible Keepers** 1. Varlos’ Zzzzzzz (VarlosZ) QB…David Garrard (QB-Jac) _8th round pick_ WR…Deion Branch (WR-Sea) _5th round pick_ TE…Dallas Clark (TE-Ind) _11th round pick_ W/R…Leon Washington (RB-NYJ) _7th round pick_ BN…Jason Witten (TE-Dal) _6th round pick_ BN…Ted Ginn Jr. (WR-Mia) _15th round pick_ BN…Kevin Kolb (QB-Phi) _16th round pick_ DEF…Green Bay (DEF-GB) _14th round pick_ 2. MunchsUrbanAchievers (Munch) QB…Matt Hasselbeck (QB-Sea) _4th round pick_ WR…Joey Galloway (WR-TB) _8th round pick_ W/R…Jerricho Cotchery (WR-NYJ) _7th round pick_ BN…Jerious Norwood (RB-Atl) _5th round pick_ - kept last year BN…James Jones (WR-GB) _11th round pick_ BN…Alex Smith (QB-SF) _14th round pick_ - kept last year BN…Tony Hunt (RB-Phi) _12th round pick_ K…Matt Stover (K-Bal) _16th round pick_ BN…Carolina (DEF-Car) _15th round pick_ 3. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee) WR…Plaxico Burress (WR-NYG) _4th round pick_ WR…Greg Jennings (WR-GB) _9th round pick_ TE…Kellen Winslow (TE-Cle) _6th round pick_ BN…Laveranues Coles (WR-NYJ) _5th round pick_ BN…Brodie Croyle (QB-KC) _15th round pick_ DEF…San Diego (DEF-SD) _8th round pick_ 4. Baltimore Weirdos (Weirddave) WR…Calvin Johnson (WR-Det) _5th round pick_ WR…Santonio Holmes (WR-Pit) _9th round pick_ - kept last year RB…Ron Dayne (RB-Hou) _10th round pick_ BN…Brandon Jackson (RB-GB) _4th round pick_ BN…Alge Crumpler (TE-Atl) _7th round pick_ BN…Brandon Jones (WR-Ten) _13th round pick_ DEF…Jacksonville (DEF-Jac) _11th round pick_ 5. Rhinosaurs(neuroman) QB…Vince Young (QB-Ten) _9th round pick_ - kept last year TE…Chris Cooley (TE-Was) _6th round pick_ W/R…Sidney Rice (WR-Min) _16th round pick_ BN…Donte’ Stallworth (WR-NE) _7th round pick_ BN…Ladell Betts (RB-Was) _5th round pick_ BN…Jason Campbell (QB-Was) _8th round pick_ BN…JaMarcus Russell (QB-Oak) _13th round pick_ BN…Brady Quinn (QB-Cle) _14th round pick_ 6. CedricBensonBusts (BabaBooey) QB…Brett Favre (QB-GB) _7th round pick_ WR…Reggie Brown (WR-Phi) _5th round pick_ WR…Jerry Porter (WR-Oak) _9th round pick_ TE…Randy McMichael (TE-StL) _13th round pick_ W/R…Brandon Jacobs (RB-NYG) _4th round pick_ - kept last year BN…Pierre Thomas (RB-NO) _16th round pick_ BN…Vincent Jackson (WR-SD) _6th round pick_ BN…Chad Pennington (QB-NYJ) _8th round pick_ BN…Michael Bush (RB-Oak) _11th round pick_ DEF…Seattle (DEF-Sea) _12th round pick_ 7. Fourth and Nineteen (Wilson) WR…Andre Johnson (WR-Hou) _4th round pick_ TE…Owen Daniels (TE-Hou) _16th round pick_ BN…Derrick Mason (WR-Bal) _10th round pick_ BN…Todd Heap (TE-Bal) _5th round pick_ BN…Chris Chambers (WR-SD) _6th round pick_ K…Adam Vinatieri (K-Ind) _8th round pick_ DEF…New England (DEF-NE) _7th round pick_ 8. Moridwon (Hamlet) QB…Jon Kitna (QB-Det) _8th round pick_ - kept last year RB… **Maurice Jones-Drew** (RB-Jac) _6th round pick_ - kept last year RB… **Chester Taylor** (RB-Min) _5th round pick_ TE…Benjamin Watson (TE-NE) _9th round pick_ W/R…Fred Taylor (RB-Jac) _4th round pick_ BN…Chris Henry (WR-Cin) _13th round pick_ BN…Brian Leonard (RB-StL) _12th round pick_ BN…Michael Turner (RB-SD) _11th round pick_ - kept last year K…David Akers (K-Phi) _15th round pick_ DEF…Baltimore (DEF-Bal) _7th round pick_ 9. Curtis Salaam Benson (Omniscient) QB…Ben Roethlisberger (QB-Pit) _6th round pick_ WR…Anquan Boldin (WR-Ari) _4th round pick_ WR…Bernard Berrian (WR-Chi) _7th round pick_ W/R…Adrian Peterson (RB-Chi) _8th round pick_ BN…Chris Brown (RB-Ten) _5th round pick_ BN…Matt Schaub (QB-Hou) _9th round pick_ BN…Muhsin Muhammad (WR-Chi) _11th round pick_ BN…Michael Bennett (RB-TB) _12th round pick_ 10. Trade Down for Kolb (Jimmy Chitwood) QB…Drew Brees (QB-NO) _5th round pick_ - kept last year WR… **Dwayne Bowe** (WR-KC) _15th round pick_ BN…LaMont Jordan (RB-Oak) _4th round pick_ BN…Santana Moss (WR-Was) _6th round pick_ BN…Ronald Curry (WR-Oak) _10th round pick_ BN…Jay Cutler (QB-Den) _9th round pick_ - kept last year BN…Anthony Gonzalez (WR-Ind) _8th round pick_ DEF…Dallas (DEF-Dal) _11th round pick_ 11. Crabby Hermits (The Mad Hermit) QB… **Tony Romo** (QB-Dal) _6th round pick_ RB…Julius Jones (RB-Dal) _4th round pick_ TE…Tony Gonzalez (TE-KC) _5th round pick_ W/R…Devin Hester (WR-Chi) _13th round pick_ BN…Antwaan Randle El (WR-Was) _9th round pick_ - kept last year BN…Najeh Davenport (RB-Pit) _16th round pick_ BN…Correll Buckhalter (RB-Phi) _14th round pick_ BN…Sammy Morris (RB-NE) _12th round pick_ BN…Drew Carter (WR-Car) _15th round pick_ K…Robbie Gould (K-Chi) _11th round pick_ DEF…Pittsburgh (DEF-Pit) _8th round pick_ 12. Solomon Mundi (Spiritus Mundi) WR… **Braylon Edwards** (WR-Cle) _7th round pick_ - kept last year WR… **Wes Welker** (WR-NE) _12th round pick_ RB…Kevin Jones (RB-Det) _6th round pick_ W/R…Lee Evans (WR-Buf) _4th round pick_ BN…DeShaun Foster (RB-Car) _4th round pick_ BN…Greg Olsen (TE-Chi) _15th round pick_ BN…Darrell Jackson (WR-SF) _5th round pick_ BN…Dominic Rhodes (RB-Oak) _9th round pick_ 13. Fightin’ Quakers (furt) WR…Donald Driver (WR-GB) _4th round pick_ WR…Brandon Marshall (WR-Den) _11th round pick_ RB…LenDale White (RB-Ten) _5th round pick_ TE…Vernon Davis (TE-SF) _8th round pick_ - kept last year BN…Kenton Keith (RB-Ind) _14th round pick_ BN…Kellen Clemens (QB-NYJ) _13th round pick_ 14. CarMenace (Nurse Carmen) WR…Hines Ward (WR-Pit) _4th round pick_ RB…Reuben Droughns (RB-NYG) _9th round pick_ TE…Heath Miller (TE-Pit) _7th round pick_ BN…Warrick Dunn (RB-Atl) _5th round pick_ BN…Eli Manning (QB-NYG) _6th round pick_ BN…Lance Moore (WR-NO) _13th round pick_ BN…Zach Miller (TE-Oak) _15th round pick_ DEF…Minnesota (DEF-Min) _12th round pick_ ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/2 "2008-04-29T04:15:52Z")
Obviously this is way, way early. My subscription expires in two weeks and I won’t be resubscribing. Based on what Ed says and the track record of this board, it’s even odds whether the NFL season or free posting comes first. Absent objections I will continue to commish the keeper league, but obviously I won’t be able to post to this thread. It’d be great if I could get a volunteer to post league updates for me, which I will provide via email. Things like trade notifications, deadlines approaching, link to the yahoo league once I create it in June, etc… ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/3 "2008-04-29T12:15:40Z")
[QUOTE=Ellis Dee] Obviously this is way, way early. [/quote] It’s never too early. > [@EllisDee](#): > > My subscription expires in two weeks and I won’t be resubscribing. Based on what Ed says and the track record of this board, it’s even odds whether the NFL season or free posting comes first. > > Absent objections I will continue to commish the keeper league, but obviously I won’t be able to post to this thread. It’d be great if I could get a volunteer to post league updates for me, which I will provide via email. Things like trade notifications, deadlines approaching, link to the yahoo league once I create it in June, etc… I’ll be renewing (I’m such a sucker) so I have no problem posting whatever you need posted. I’ll send you my email address (the one I check most often), just let me know whatever you need communicated. Thanks for commishing again. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/4 "2008-04-29T23:31:02Z")
[QUOTE=Hamlet] I’ll be renewing (I’m such a sucker) so I have no problem posting whatever you need posted. [/QUOTE] Perfect, thanks. For everyone else in the league, I’d recommend subscribing to this thread. If you have nothing to say, instead of posting to it you can drop down the “Thread Tools” menu at the top of the OP and select “Subscribe to this thread.” ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/5 "2008-04-30T01:26:04Z")
Hey everyone in the league. I got an email from Ellis Dee. He said he wanted you all to know that he really enjoys this league, almost as much as he does fucking dead goats. He also said, in the email, that he’s buying everyone who beats him a case of their favorite beer and that he thinks I’m the smartest, funniest person in the world, and that he wakes every morning wishing he could be just like me. Since he’s not posting anymore, he also wanted me to tell you all that he may be busy this season selling himself by the docks for $1.25 a throw. Give him a call at 555-3245. He goes by the name “poolboy”. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/6 "2008-06-16T14:20:57Z")
From Ellis: The [new league](http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/hehatemesdmb) is up. (Password in email.) You have until August 1st to join, but in the meantime, check out yahoo’s new features: **New Live Draft App** [ul][li]Kick off your season with our new and improved draft app[/li][li]Stay in control with simpler queue management and player search[/li][li]Don’t miss a turn with our new audio alerts[/ul][/li] **Keeper Leagues** [ul][li]Build your dynasty by keeping your best players each season[/li][li]Salvage a down year by trading for next year’s stars[/li][li]Change your league’s live draft order based on custom keeper rules[/ul]It sounds like the commish can fully reorder the draft as needed, meaning yahoo itself may be able to handle our offseason trades.[/li] No more tedious preranking; no more screenshots. PS: It looks like the draft order is fully customizable, but it doesn’t work until everyone is signed in. So go sign in now. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/7 "2008-06-16T14:28:15Z")
From my quick glance, it looks like 5 players haven’t signed in yet. They are VarlosZ, Weirddave, neuroman, Jimmy Chitwood, and Spiritus Mundi. Feel free to mock them, their children and relatives, their pets, and, if the occasion arises, they’re mother. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/8 "2008-06-16T14:31:57Z")
I choose to mock Hamlet for his creative use of “they’re”. well, him and neuroman, for the off season indiscretions that he had with that circus goat. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/9 "2008-06-16T15:03:00Z")
Mock away, but I’ve signed up, actually it was probably happening concurrently with your last post. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/10 "2008-06-22T17:30:52Z")
The mockery of lesser beings merely confirms my innate . . . um . . . innatity. Spiritus is here. Release the clowns. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/11 "2008-06-22T18:18:42Z")
Is there an open spot this year? Pleeeeeease? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/12 "2008-06-26T21:32:40Z")
From Ellis: Everyone is in and the draft order set, so offseason trading is officially open. Remember the draft pick value chart that Munch [linked](http://footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm). It is not the NFL’s draft pick value chart; this one is specifically designed for fantasy football. If you go to that link and wonder where the chart is, there isn’t one. It’s just a calculator. I actually typed every pick into that calculator and put the values it spit out into a chart. Here is that chart: ```auto 1- 1 ( 1): 1889 5- 1 ( 57): 519 9- 1 (113): 111 13- 1 (169): 32 1- 2 ( 2): 1823 5- 2 ( 58): 510 9- 2 (114): 107 13- 2 (170): 31 1- 3 ( 3): 1759 5- 3 ( 59): 500 9- 3 (115): 103 13- 3 (171): 29 1- 4 ( 4): 1699 5- 4 ( 60): 491 9- 4 (116): 100 13- 4 (172): 27 1- 5 ( 5): 1642 5- 5 ( 61): 482 9- 5 (117): 97 13- 5 (173): 25 1- 6 ( 6): 1587 5- 6 ( 62): 473 9- 6 (118): 94 13- 6 (174): 23 1- 7 ( 7): 1535 5- 7 ( 63): 464 9- 7 (119): 91 13- 7 (175): 21 1- 8 ( 8): 1485 5- 8 ( 64): 455 9- 8 (120): 88 13- 8 (176): 20 1- 9 ( 9): 1438 5- 9 ( 65): 446 9- 9 (121): 86 13- 9 (177): 18 1-10 (10): 1393 5-10 ( 66): 437 9-10 (122): 83 13-10 (178): 16 1-11 (11): 1351 5-11 ( 67): 428 9-11 (123): 81 13-11 (179): 14 1-12 (12): 1310 5-12 ( 68): 419 9-12 (124): 79 13-12 (180): 12 1-13 (13): 1272 5-13 ( 69): 410 9-13 (125): 77 13-13 (181): 10 1-14 (14): 1235 5-14 ( 70): 402 9-14 (126): 75 13-14 (182): 9 2- 1 (15): 1200 6- 1 ( 71): 393 10- 1 (127): 73 14- 1 (183): 7 2- 2 (16): 1167 6- 2 ( 72): 384 10- 2 (128): 72 14- 2 (184): 6 2- 3 (17): 1135 6- 3 ( 73): 375 10- 3 (129): 70 14- 3 (185): 4 2- 4 (18): 1105 6- 4 ( 74): 367 10- 4 (130): 69 14- 4 (186): 3 2- 5 (19): 1076 6- 5 ( 75): 358 10- 5 (131): 67 14- 5 (187): 2 2- 6 (20): 1049 6- 6 ( 76): 350 10- 6 (132): 66 14- 6 (188): 1 2- 7 (21): 1023 6- 7 ( 77): 341 10- 7 (133): 65 14- 7 (189): 1 2- 8 (22): 998 6- 8 ( 78): 333 10- 8 (134): 64 14- 8 (190): 1 2- 9 (23): 975 6- 9 ( 79): 325 10- 9 (135): 63 14- 9 (191): 0 2-10 (24): 952 6-10 ( 80): 316 10-10 (136): 62 14-10 (192): 0 2-11 (25): 931 6-11 ( 81): 308 10-11 (137): 61 14-11 (193): 0 2-12 (26): 910 6-12 ( 82): 300 10-12 (138): 61 14-12 (194): 0 2-13 (27): 890 6-13 ( 83): 292 10-13 (139): 60 14-13 (195): 0 2-14 (28): 872 6-14 ( 84): 284 10-14 (140): 59 14-14 (196): 0 3- 1 (29): 853 7- 1 ( 85): 276 11- 1 (141): 59 15- 1 (197): 0 3- 2 (30): 836 7- 2 ( 86): 268 11- 2 (142): 58 15- 2 (198): 0 3- 3 (31): 820 7- 3 ( 87): 261 11- 3 (143): 57 15- 3 (199): 0 3- 4 (32): 804 7- 4 ( 88): 253 11- 4 (144): 57 15- 4 (200): 0 3- 5 (33): 788 7- 5 ( 89): 246 11- 5 (145): 56 15- 5 (201): 0 3- 6 (34): 773 7- 6 ( 90): 239 11- 6 (146): 56 15- 6 (202): 0 3- 7 (35): 759 7- 7 ( 91): 231 11- 7 (147): 55 15- 7 (203): 0 3- 8 (36): 745 7- 8 ( 92): 224 11- 8 (148): 55 15- 8 (204): 0 3- 9 (37): 732 7- 9 ( 93): 217 11- 9 (149): 54 15- 9 (205): 0 3-10 (38): 719 7-10 ( 94): 211 11-10 (150): 53 15-10 (206): 0 3-11 (39): 707 7-11 ( 95): 204 11-11 (151): 53 15-11 (207): 0 3-12 (40): 694 7-12 ( 96): 197 11-12 (152): 52 15-12 (208): 0 3-13 (41): 682 7-13 ( 97): 191 11-13 (153): 52 15-13 (209): 0 3-14 (42): 671 7-14 ( 98): 185 11-14 (154): 51 15-14 (210): 0 4- 1 (43): 660 8- 1 ( 99): 179 12- 1 (155): 50 16- 1 (211): 0 4- 2 (44): 648 8- 2 (100): 173 12- 2 (156): 49 16- 2 (212): 0 4- 3 (45): 638 8- 3 (101): 167 12- 3 (157): 48 16- 3 (213): 0 4- 4 (46): 627 8- 4 (102): 161 12- 4 (158): 47 16- 4 (214): 0 4- 5 (47): 616 8- 5 (103): 156 12- 5 (159): 46 16- 5 (215): 0 4- 6 (48): 606 8- 6 (104): 151 12- 6 (160): 45 16- 6 (216): 0 4- 7 (49): 596 8- 7 (105): 146 12- 7 (161): 44 16- 7 (217): 0 4- 8 (50): 586 8- 8 (106): 141 12- 8 (162): 43 16- 8 (218): 0 4- 9 (51): 576 8- 9 (107): 136 12- 9 (163): 42 16- 9 (219): 0 4-10 (52): 566 8-10 (108): 131 12-10 (164): 40 16-10 (220): 0 4-11 (53): 557 8-11 (109): 127 12-11 (165): 39 16-11 (221): 0 4-12 (54): 547 8-12 (110): 122 12-12 (166): 37 16-12 (222): 0 4-13 (55): 538 8-13 (111): 118 12-13 (167): 36 16-13 (223): 0 4-14 (56): 528 8-14 (112): 114 12-14 (168): 34 16-14 (224): 0 ``` This year I can customize the actual yahoo draft picks, so after every trade is accepted I will reflect the changes in yahoo. I can also set keepers in yahoo. This year’s draft is going to to be a breeze. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/13 "2008-07-01T11:32:37Z")
Cross posted here and on the league’s home page. **If you’re going to spend an even-numbered draft pick on a keeper** , might I suggest you get full value for it by trading that draft pick to me for my pick in that round (the last one) and a swap of picks in the following round, in which my pick will be the first. It’s free value for both of us, and by trading with me you get more free value then you would by making a similar swap with anyone else. Caveat: – I’ve already traded my 3rd round pick to BabaBooey, but I don’t think anyone else is going to use a 2nd rounder on a keeper. Thanks for your time, and good luck everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/14 "2008-07-22T13:14:25Z")
Open… spot? ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/15 "2008-07-22T17:21:36Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] Open… spot? [/QUOTE] Dude, check your private messages! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/16 "2008-07-22T18:25:47Z")
Whose spot am I taking… and does it come with keepers? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/17 "2008-07-22T18:38:43Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] Whose spot am I taking… and does it come with keepers? [/QUOTE] Never mind… I’m looking at **Neuro** ’s potential keepers and it doesn’t look like any of them are worth the Round+2 price. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/18 "2008-08-04T20:14:48Z")
[QUOTE=VarlosZ] Cross posted here and on the league’s home page. **If you’re going to spend an even-numbered draft pick on a keeper** , might I suggest you get full value for it by trading that draft pick to me for my pick in that round (the last one) and a swap of picks in the following round, in which my pick will be the first. It’s free value for both of us, and by trading with me you get more free value then you would by making a similar swap with anyone else. Caveat: – I’ve already traded my 3rd round pick to BabaBooey, but I don’t think anyone else is going to use a 2nd rounder on a keeper. Thanks for your time, and good luck everyone. [/QUOTE] You have mail. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/19 "2008-08-04T21:32:44Z")
Damn. I didn’t know there was a value chart for fantasy football. That’s really cool and dorky at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318/20 "2008-08-05T13:59:32Z")
[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever] Damn. I didn’t know there was a value chart for fantasy football. That’s really cool and dorky at the same time. [/QUOTE] It’s as though in some alternate universe, Jimmy Johnson was an accountant or something. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-hate-me-some-me-ff-keeper-league/447318.md?page=2)