# He-man Jets fan punches out little female Patriots fan. And it's her fault??? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 22, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972 "2013-10-22T20:57:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/21 "2013-10-23T06:47:47Z")
If she started the fight, why would she expect not to get punched in the face? ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/22 "2013-10-23T10:51:51Z")
Call me a caveman, but in my day women were ladies and didn’t pick fights with strange men. They goaded their boyfriends into doing it and watched. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/23 "2013-10-23T12:46:07Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > he shouldn’t need to use such force against a slightly built woman who was just punching him in the arm. I hope he’s found guilty of assault and thrown back in prison. She shouldn’t need to start using force against someone in the first place; I hope she’s found guilty and treated accordingly before she strikes again. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/24 "2013-10-23T12:50:18Z")
I found his laughing and smiling after the punch to be an indication that he really didn’t act in self defense when he punched her. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/25 "2013-10-23T13:15:27Z")
> [@treis](#): > > So because he stabbed a guy 20 years ago when he was 18, he’s wrong in every situation from then on? Yes, at least in cases like this. Welcome to the real world. The judicial and penal systems are based on a person’s prior criminal history. It will always be used to judge his character and propensity for violence. Did he act in self-defense? maybe. Did he need to punch her in the face? No. While I agree that in this short clip of a much longer confrontation, she seemed to be the aggressor, the punch wasn’t really necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/26 "2013-10-23T13:20:19Z")
Well, she is pretty and blonde so no, she can’t be hit. Don’t let it be a hulking black woman, though. Then all bets are off. I agree totally with Green Bean. Don’t start shit if you can’t take shit. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/27 "2013-10-23T13:26:05Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > Call me a caveman, but in my day women were ladies and didn’t pick fights with strange men. They goaded their boyfriends into doing it and watched. Are you going to just stand there and let him say that to me? Well? ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/28 "2013-10-23T13:28:53Z")
I’m a Patriots fan, we call the brawlers “drunks” or “college students.” Sometimes both. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/29 "2013-10-23T14:02:07Z")
You have to ask, why was this being filmed? It is like the person recording the event saw that there was something going on between the parties and was ready for a confrontation. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/30 "2013-10-23T14:08:45Z")
From the title of the thread, I thought this was going to be about a grown man punching out a little girl. A grown 28-year-old woman is not “little,” I don’t care what size she is. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/31 "2013-10-23T14:10:30Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > You have to ask, why was this being filmed? It is like the person recording the event saw that there was something going on between the parties and was ready for a confrontation. Because everyone and their mother now have video cameras on their phones. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/32 "2013-10-23T14:14:01Z")
> [@Sparky812](#): > > Welcome to the real world. That’s what he said. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/33 "2013-10-23T14:15:32Z")
Two idiots get in a fight, usually one gets it worse than the other, doesn’t really matter which one. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/34 "2013-10-23T14:20:28Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Are you going to just stand there and let him say that to me? > > Well? Absolutely not. You hold him, I’ll go get help. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/35 "2013-10-23T14:27:10Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Are you going to just stand there and let him say that to me? > > Well? Me: “Yup!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/36 "2013-10-23T14:38:34Z")
> [@Sparky812](#): > > Yes, at least in cases like this. Welcome to the real world. > The judicial and penal systems are based on a person’s prior criminal history. > It will always be used to judge his character and propensity for violence. No, they’re not. A conviction from 20 years ago, especially one as a juvenile, would not be admissible in court. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/37 "2013-10-23T15:16:24Z")
Looked more like a drunken slap-punch as he was being pulled backwards, rather than anything with muscle behind it. The commentator’s “Slugged her right in the face” comment was stupid. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/38 "2013-10-23T15:25:54Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I found his laughing and smiling after the punch to be an indication that he really didn’t act in self defense when he punched her. That’s like saying that if you smile after getting run over by a car then you must have wanted to get hit. People sometimes react with joy when they realize that a threat is over. Also, some people automatically cringe or duck when attacked. Others (me included) throw punches. If a woman came at me I might hit her not because I choose it hit a woman but because I punch first and then shriek like a very manly six year old girl. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/39 "2013-10-23T15:47:38Z")
“Drunk Assholes Hit Each Other,” as an \*Onion \*caption might say. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/40 "2013-10-23T15:54:02Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I wonder if she has a body count in her past? It takes two to tango and she certainly didn’t exhibit a large degree of self control. When I’ve seen altercations like that on the subway, it’s usually between two people who each look like they’ve been in scrapes before. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972.md?page=3)