# He-man Jets fan punches out little female Patriots fan. And it's her fault???

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 22, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972 "2013-10-22T20:57:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/41 "2013-10-23T16:04:52Z")

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If you hit people, you might get hit back. If you don’t want to risk getting hit back, don’t hit people. And don’t come whining to me if you hit someone and they hit you back.

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**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/42 "2013-10-23T16:21:42Z")

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To the OP: who exactly is saying that it is her fault? All I see is people saying that she _also_ did things wrong, which seems true. Last I checked, there is no provision that the slender and light-weight can use violence with impunity. Not that this excuses what the Jets fan did, but it’s not like in an altercation like this, the number of people that could possibly be at fault is limited to one.

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**Author:** ![CoastalMaineiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@CoastalMaineiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoastalMaineiac)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/43 "2013-10-23T17:11:30Z")

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What the hell is it about athletic sports that seems to bring out the very worst behavior in some people. Why is it you never hear of this sort of shit happening at chess tournaments?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/44 "2013-10-23T17:15:20Z")

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Maybe if chess tournaments were TO THE DEATH, something along those lines might start happening.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/45 "2013-10-23T17:26:48Z")

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No one gets a free pass on assaulting others. Period.

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/46 "2013-10-23T17:26:53Z")

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Everybody seems to be overlooking the key point here:

He’s a _Jets_ fan.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/47 "2013-10-23T17:31:19Z")

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I’ve got a nice scar that will always remind me of the parking lot outside of Kasparov vs Deep Blue Game Five.

Some Shithead Deep Blue Fan: Who the fuck opens with the Four Knights Game?

_shove_

Debaser: You think he was going to keep playing the Sicilian Defense even after your tub of bolts figured it out?

_shoves back_

Some Shithead Deep Blue Fan: Fuck you!

_punches begin throwing_

Debaser: You still think turning down that draw offer on the 23rd move was a good idea, shithead?

_kick to the kneecap_

Sometime around then I got hit in the head hard with either a beer bottle or a terabyte of RAM, not sure exactly which.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/48 "2013-10-23T17:34:26Z")

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Considering it was 1996, a Terabyte of RAM would have been a rather heavy club.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/49 "2013-10-23T17:37:07Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> Everybody seems to be overlooking the key point here:
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> He’s a _Jets_ fan.

It could be worse - he could be a _Yankees_ fan!

Add another woman to the count of, “If you don’t want to get hit, don’t start that kind of shit.” If I went flying after some guy the way she did, I’d expect him to slug me.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/50 "2013-10-23T17:37:28Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Well, she is pretty and blonde so no, she can’t be hit. Don’t let it be a hulking black woman, though. Then all bets are off.

Not that you’ve any axe to grind here. 😛

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/51 "2013-10-23T17:40:18Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> No, they’re not. A conviction from 20 years ago, especially one as a juvenile, would not be admissible in court.

OK maybe not in the US, it is here.  
Wouldn’t he have been tried as an adult for a felony murder charge?

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/52 "2013-10-23T17:50:00Z")

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So he hit a girl. That’s bad, but I guess it was justified.

Oh, and he did stab a guy to death that one time. But that was a while ago. Well, I’m sure his mom loves him. He might be an OK guy.

> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> It could be worse - he could be a _Yankees_ fan!

Wait…What?

Do we have confirmation of this?

String him up by his fucking balls. Lock him up and throw away the key.

😃

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/53 "2013-10-23T17:57:43Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> I found his laughing and smiling after the punch to be an indication that he really didn’t act in self defense when he punched her.

That’s a completely unconvincing thing to me. People react in very strange ways to physical confrontation and stress; smiling and laughing in such situations isn’t at all uncommon, nor is crying or yelling or whatever. No conclusion at all can be drawn from such a thing.

Frankly, both of them were acting like idiots and I wouldn’t mind hearing they’d both done some community service.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/54 "2013-10-23T18:58:51Z")

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She deserved it. He was backing away and she could have walked off but she wanted to continue the fight so he obliged her. Good on him. Maybe next time she’s a bit unhappy about something she won’t resort to violence.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/55 "2013-10-23T19:05:21Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> Not that you’ve any axe to grind here. 😛

You bitchslap _one_ douchbag Celtics fan while eating Skittles and drinking ice tea in a hoodie. . .

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/56 "2013-10-23T19:09:13Z")

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Wait. There are Celtics fans who _aren’t_ douchebags?

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**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/57 "2013-10-23T19:57:10Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> Are you going to just stand there and let him say that to me?
> 
> Well?

You shouldn’t have been acting like a bitch. Sorry about that, Mr. Tyson.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/58 "2013-10-23T20:26:36Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> Maybe he thought she was Skeletor in disguise.

Rep. Pelosi is a Patriots fan? I would have thought she roots for the 49ers and would hit back.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/59 "2013-10-23T20:50:44Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> Wait. There are Celtics fans who _aren’t_ douchebags?

This year the question may be “Are there Celtics fans?”

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**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-jets-fan-punches-out-little-female-patriots-fan-and-its-her-fault/671972/60 "2013-10-23T21:22:49Z")

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Based on the video, she’s attacking him. Last time I checked men are still allowed to defend themselves from attacks. Even if it’s coming from a woman.

All the headlines I’ve seen on this incident reads along the lines of “man punches a woman” When it’s clear as day it should be “man defends himself from woman”

Sexism FTW !

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