# He-Man makes no sense.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 16, 2011, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561 "2011-02-16T08:11:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/61 "2011-02-17T01:05:07Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> Was there a single thing in the entire He-man universe that was not dripping with gay subtext?

No. Which explains why I liked it so much. I was 8 when the series started.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/62 "2011-02-17T01:11:01Z")

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Christ there’s an ad for collectible Masters of the Universe toys on the top of this page (who is the one that looks like He-Man but with brown hair and bluish skin?)

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**Author:** ![infinitii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@infinitii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/infinitii)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/63 "2011-02-17T01:16:11Z")

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> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#):
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> Christ there’s an ad for collectible Masters of the Universe toys on the top of this page (who is the one that looks like He-Man but with brown hair and bluish skin?)

I don’t see the ad, but it’s almost certainly Faker, the android (I think) who was built by Skeletor to take He-Man’s place. Another excuse to sell the exact same toy.

I always thought it was cool that J. Michael Straczynski had an early job as a writer on He-Man.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/64 "2011-02-17T01:35:49Z")

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> [@infinitii](#):
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> I don’t see the ad, but it’s almost certainly Faker, the android (I think) who was built by Skeletor to take He-Man’s place. Another excuse to sell the exact same toy.

In the original series, anyway. In the more recent toy-line, Faker’s got himself a (partially, at least) new mold. A new head, at the very least.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/65 "2011-02-17T01:37:47Z")

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> [@infinitii](#):
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> I don’t see the ad, but it’s almost certainly Faker, the android (I think) who was built by Skeletor to take He-Man’s place. Another excuse to sell the exact same toy.
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> I always thought it was cool that J. Michael Straczynski had an early job as a writer on He-Man.

Yeah I checked, seems to be him. I just had to look at different pics and bios of various Masters of Uinverse Villains, I think I might have lost a D20 of SAN. Who the hell wrote that shit?

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/66 "2011-02-17T03:19:46Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> [Robot Chicken He-Man Episode](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svix3gccmiM)

Boobies!

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/67 "2011-02-17T04:01:24Z")

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Quoth **Bosda** :

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> What are the “secrets” of Greyskull?  
> Who knows?

Isn’t that kind of the whole point of secrets?

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/68 "2011-02-17T06:11:00Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> The tragic, never to be consumated, courtly love between Adam and Teela in the style of Tristan and Iseault.

But looking back, Teela did seem to have more of a thing for him than the other way around… Poor Teela, her beloved wanted to spend more time with her dad than her.

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/69 "2011-02-17T07:18:08Z")

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No discussion of He-Man is complete without this episode of[Stupid People’s Court](http://novia.net/~pschleck/spc/saturday-am.html).

For the uninitiated, in the days before the web when Usenet was king, a guy who called himself Judge Moriarity Wapner did several on-line parodies based on The People’s Court. The above episode took on Saturday morning cartoons.

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**Author:** ![VanillaGorilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f9ae1b/32.png) [@VanillaGorilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VanillaGorilla)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/70 "2011-02-17T07:42:56Z")

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This is the best thread ever. :D:D:D

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**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/71 "2011-02-17T07:57:25Z")

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This thread made me laugh so hard I snorted AND drooled.

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**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/72 "2011-02-17T13:45:26Z")

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> [@Antinor01](#):
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> No. Which explains why I liked it so much. I was 8 when the series started.

Yep, this is me, although as a fully licenced gay I did of course prefer She-Ra.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/73 "2011-02-17T14:29:59Z")

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A 28 year old chiming in here: Yeah, after reading just half of this, I’m GLAD He-man is a smidge before my time. Here I was, thinking I missed out.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/74 "2011-02-17T15:29:44Z")

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And Orko, wth is with that _thing_. I realize that kids programs have to have a wacky sidekick and all, but he was the worst magician in the universe. Did he ever get one frickin’ spell right? Ever? If I were He-Man, I’d would have kicked Orko into an active volcano long ago. Then again, if I were He-Man I wouldn’t be sporting a page boy haircut either.

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**Author:** ![Atrael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Atrael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atrael)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/75 "2011-02-17T15:47:18Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> And Orko, wth is with that _thing_. I realize that kids programs have to have a wacky sidekick and all, but he was the worst magician in the universe. Did he ever get one frickin’ spell right? Ever? If I were He-Man, I’d would have kicked Orko into an active volcano long ago. Then again, if I were He-Man I wouldn’t be sporting a page boy haircut either.

I do not believe that I remember this, but as I recall, the reason Orko couldn’t do anything right is that he was from another universe/dimension, so all his powers were backwards. During one story arc, Adam and he went to Orko’s home dimension/universe, and it turned out that Orko was this super powerful wizard whos spells always worked. That was the episode where it took Adam then entire show to figure out that in order to transform to He-Man, he had to say the power phrase backwards. “Grayskull of power the by”!

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/76 "2011-02-17T15:49:54Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Oddly, He-Man’s full origin is **never** explained in the series.
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> Why Adam?  
> _Who knows?_  
> Why Cringer?  
> _Who knows?_  
> What are the “secrets” of Greyskull?  
> _Who knows?_  
> A very strange series, indeed.

That’s how they keep you watching… hoping that next time they’ll tackle those subjects, or maybe it will be the elusive rumored episode where… we see orko without his hat!  
Any MOTU-scholar know if anyone other than He-Man ever held aloft the sword and said the words? Would be interesting to see what happened…  
Goddammit, now my nightmares about Trap-Jaw are gonna come back. that fucker’s scary.

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**Author:** ![infinitii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@infinitii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/infinitii)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/77 "2011-02-17T16:46:28Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> A 28 year old chiming in here: Yeah, after reading just half of this, I’m GLAD He-man is a smidge before my time. Here I was, thinking I missed out.

Interesting, I’m 29 but I was full into it back in the day (had all the toys and watched the cartoon all the time). I don’t know exactly how the timing works out, but odd.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/78 "2011-02-17T16:56:03Z")

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> [@infinitii](#):
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> Interesting, I’m 29 but I was full into it back in the day (had all the toys and watched the cartoon all the time). I don’t know exactly how the timing works out, but odd.

I mean, I’m fairly certain I remember it the first time around, it’s just that I didn’t care for it, or couldn’t be bothered to watch it, if and when it was on, and I was in front of a TV that had it on.

Just for me, it feels like it came before my time.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/79 "2011-02-17T16:59:37Z")

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> [@conway](#):
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> You mean Fisto? One metal hand dude…one giant metal hand.

You forgot [Jitsu](http://www.he-man.org/collecting/toy.php?id=572).

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/he-man-makes-no-sense/571561/80 "2011-02-17T17:12:25Z")

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I can’t believe I’m the first one to link to this: [_He-man_ singing _What’s Up?_ by _4 Non Blondes_](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32FB-gYr49Y).

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