# Head in the clouds MMP

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** mmp\
**Created:** [August 10, 2015, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437 "2015-08-10T08:22:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/81 "2015-08-11T21:58:23Z")

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Howdy Y’all! I irked, met OYKW for a burger before he went on to do another evenin’ monitorin’, poor thing, and now I am at da cave. Still no rain/tstorms/apocalypse but the weather PTB say it’s comin’. We shall see.

**BooFae** stroppiness sounds a bit like a “hissy fit.” No one can describe a “hissy fit” but ya know one when ya see one. 😃

**MOOOOOOM** yikes! Glad no one human or dawg or any property was damaged.

**wombie** no advice but here’s hopin’ for the best.

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/82 "2015-08-11T22:42:03Z")

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> [@mortal\_wombat](#):
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> Anybody got any tips on how to keep a relationship that’s destined to fail on the right track and away from that inevitable train wreck that everyone else is warning you about?

More a stand-alone question but ----- on mothers side of the family the usual answer to everything was heavy drinking and that never worked. On Dad’s it was heavy silliness and that did work sometimes. Somewhere between the two may be something that works well.

We’ll at least send some good vibes your way.

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/83 "2015-08-11T22:48:16Z")

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> [@mortal\_wombat](#):
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> Women - can’t live with them, can’t live without them.  
> Not a sexist comment - it works the same for us guys…  
> I gotta be somewhere else now, and I think that place is here instead of home drama  
> Anybody got any tips on how to keep a relationship that’s destined to fail on the right track and away from that inevitable train wreck that everyone else is warning you about?

Maybe you can start a separate thread about it. You might get more advice that way.

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/22080_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/84 "2015-08-11T23:00:50Z")

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Supper was mac-n-cheese-n-peas because \*\*FCD \*\*didn’t want to eat and I wanted something quick.

Now, recline and crochet. \*\*\* MWAH!\*\*\*

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/85 "2015-08-11T23:01:12Z")

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Why do people seek advice on message boards?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/86 "2015-08-11T23:09:35Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> Supper was mac-n-cheese-n-peas because \*\*FCD \*\*didn’t want to eat and I wanted something quick.

The Evile Mrs. Plant (v.2.0) would often make that. The peas were “for protein”. My step daughter delighted in her chocolate chip pancakes.  
:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/87 "2015-08-11T23:28:16Z")

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> [@mortal\_wombat](#):
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> Women - can’t live with them, can’t live without them.  
> Not a sexist comment - it works the same for us guys…  
> I gotta be somewhere else now, and I think that place is here instead of home drama  
> Anybody got any tips on how to keep a relationship that’s destined to fail on the right track and away from that inevitable train wreck that everyone else is warning you about?

If I knew how to answer that OAOASO would have been on again and stayed that way.

If only he wasn’t such an ass. He’d say if only I wasn’t such a bitch. Of course had he not been such an ass I would not have been such a bitch - only in his version if I had been less of a bitch he would have been less of an ass.  
He’s wrong of course 😃

If it’s destined to fail then bail before it gets too ugly.  
Sah-dog was determined to go with us yesterday. He always wants to go out the door with me and he followed me to the truck. For an old blind, deaf dog he can give Sah-son a workout trying to get him back in the house. He’s not quick but he’ll trot over like he’s going to his poop place and before you know it he’s heading back for the truck.  
We let him go to the store with us today, it wasn’t too hot and Sah-son waited in the truck with him.

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/88 "2015-08-12T00:12:49Z")

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**Sari** I’m glad to know Sah-dawg had an outin’. 😃 A good example of determination is a dawg who has decided that he/she is goin’ for a ride.

Now I shall retire to the boudoir to watch teevee until sleepy time.

Nitey Nite Y’all!

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/89 "2015-08-12T00:32:01Z")

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Miss me yet, fellow Mumpers?

Yeah, I know **Flytrap** misses me, but he’s reloading…

Here’s my moment of idiocy today. I got a mailing from the retirement plan for [del]The Hellhole[sup]tm[/sup][/del]my former employer saying we noticed you’ve had a change of employment, so you have to do something about your 401(k). Yeah, I know that.

Last year, I took out a sizable loan to pay off my medical bills, and that loan is/was outstanding. I don’t have the $$$$ to pay it back, nor do I have a nearly identical amount to pay the taxes if it defaults and is declared a partial distribution. So I call them to see if I can take the estimated taxen and penalties off the top and send it to the money grubbing bastards at the Infernal Revenue Service. Yes, I can do that, so I set it up. The idiocy: I had to take out even more money to pay taxes on the money I’m using to pay taxes. :dubious: :mad:

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/90 "2015-08-12T00:52:19Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Why do people seek advice on message boards?

Anonymous names on a screen feel safer to talk to than RL people? Thinking about the problem deeply enough to write it out helps clarify the problem for the one having it?

Speaking of, I now have a big decision on my hands. A week or so ago, I got a heads-up that I might be moving to another department at work, with promotion to lead. Cool. Today, manager calls me in, tells me I have a choice of taking the move or staying put in my current department, also with promotion to lead. It’s basically a choice of which supervisor/department I want to be a lead in.

I like both supervisors, so that’s pretty much a wash.

My current area has me doing my 28 hours/week in four days, which feels like I have a lot more free time than I did on the sales floor (where the other department is), which has that 28 hours in five days. This works for a student. I’m assured that both supervisors will work with my class schedule as needed.

I have never worked in the other department, so would have to learn that on top of being a new lead. At least I’m well acquainted with the current department.

The few people I really know in the other department (they just got some newbies in), I think I could work with, but the majority of those people are strangers to me. OTOH, in my current group, we have a rather bossy type who claims to not want to be a lead, but does have a fondness for running the show (I think she just doesn’t want to be responsible for the results), and a newer girl who acts like she already IS a lead and barks orders at everyone (mentioned this to current supervisor, who assures me it will not be allowed to be a problem), so I’m concerned about pushback from them if I do take the promotion in my current department. The rest of my current team, no problem. Most of them treat me as an authority/guidance figure already anyway, since I’ve been there longer than anyone else except our senior lead, who remains in that position and in overall charge of the department (under supervisor, of course).

Tough decision here. I actually rather like the “helping customers” part of the sales floor, and working in an air-conditioned part of the building would be rather nice, it being August :). Not sure how good a lead I could be in an area I’m still learning myself, though. Current area has the virtue that I’m already up to speed there, but I do have the two self-appointed “leads” who have me concerned about whether they’ll listen to me.

I thought typing all this out would help me figure it out, but I’m still a bit stymied. I do have a little time to decide, so it’s not like the manager insists on a definite decision first thing tomorrow.

TL;DR: I have to decide which of two departments at work, one of them my current one, I would prefer to be a lead in. There are pros and cons to both possibilities, and I’m trying to figure out which direction the scale tips.

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**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/91 "2015-08-12T00:54:00Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> The Evile Mrs. Plant (v.2.0) would often make that. The peas were “for protein”. My step daughter delighted in her chocolate chip pancakes.  
> :rolleyes:

Wouldn’t the cheese (or milk used in sauce) have more protein than the peas? 🙂

My dinner tonight is carne asada nachos. Just chips, meat, and cheese. Still not feeling 100%, and experiencing my usual illness/stress craving for protein.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/92 "2015-08-12T00:55:40Z")

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> [@VunderBob](#):
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> Miss me yet, fellow Mumpers?

Were you gone?

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**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/93 "2015-08-12T01:10:22Z")

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**Nettie** get a coin

Heads stay in your current dept, tails move to the other

Toss the coin

don’t look at it yet

which one do you want it to be

it’s supposed to work - although it never has for me  
then again my picture should be posted in the dictionary next to indecision

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/94 "2015-08-12T01:23:16Z")

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> [@Seanette](#):
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> Wouldn’t the cheese (or milk used in sauce) have more protein than the peas? 🙂

I was alluding to the intelligence of Mrs. Plant (v.2.0). After all, she married me.  
:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/95 "2015-08-12T01:31:30Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I was alluding to the intelligence of Mrs. Plant (v.2.0). After all, she married me.  
> :rolleyes:

You forgot two words, I fixed it for you…

_I was alluding to the **lack of** intelligence of Mrs. Plant (v.2.0). After all, she married me[, flytwerp]._

Damn, **Sari** beat me to it.

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/96 "2015-08-12T02:30:12Z")

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> [@VunderBob](#):
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> The idiocy: I had to take out even more money to pay taxes on the money I’m using to pay taxes. :dubious: :mad:

\<Yakov accent\> America - what a country! 😉

> [@Seanette](#):
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> I have never worked in the other department, so would have to learn that on top of being a new lead. At least I’m well acquainted with the current department.  
> eady up to speed there, but I do have the two self-appointed “leads” who have me concerned about whether they’ll listen to me.

For what its worth, I’ve always done better with the Devil I knew over the other one but YMMV.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/97 "2015-08-12T02:40:10Z")

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Worked in da Hood. Home, having beerverage and Mexican style fish stew.

> [@missred](#):
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> **doggio** , Gordie following you around for two hours was just making sure that you didn’t [del]hopelessly abandon[/del] him again. 😛
> 
> Today is an overcast Monday of a Tuesday. The areas that I usually reconcile on Mondays were waiting for me this morning. I have to stop at the post office and mail Sis’ sweetie’s rings that he left at my house. He will owe me barbecoa at Christmas for that. 😃

Pretty much. And i wish someone owed me barbacoa.

> [@kopek](#):
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> More a stand-alone question but ----- on mothers side of the family the usual answer to everything was heavy drinking and that never worked. On Dad’s it was heavy silliness and that did work sometimes. Somewhere between the two may be something that works well.

Drinking and silliness works for me.😃

> [@swampbear](#):
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> **Sari** I’m glad to know Sah-dawg had an outin’. 😃 A good example of determination is a dawg who has decided that he/she is goin’ for a ride.

Ex roomie’s 180lbs. Sheppard mix loved car rides. It was all I could do to keep him from hurling himself into stranger’s cars.

> [@kopek](#):
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> For what its worth, I’ve always done better with the Devil I knew over the other one but YMMV.

Always choose the more fun evil.;)😃

Welcome back, **Bobbio**! nd this year’s refund covered last year’s withdrawals. Otherwise the Infernal Revenue Service would be squeezing blood from a stone.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/98 "2015-08-12T07:37:52Z")

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> [@Seanette](#):
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> Anonymous names on a screen feel safer to talk to than RL people? Thinking about the problem deeply enough to write it out helps clarify the problem for the one having it?
> 
> Speaking of, I now have a big decision on my hands. A week or so ago, I got a heads-up that I might be moving to another department at work, with promotion to lead. Cool. Today, manager calls me in, tells me I have a choice of taking the move or staying put in my current department, also with promotion to lead. It’s basically a choice of which supervisor/department I want to be a lead in.
> 
> I like both supervisors, so that’s pretty much a wash.
> 
> My current area has me doing my 28 hours/week in four days, which feels like I have a lot more free time than I did on the sales floor (where the other department is), which has that 28 hours in five days. This works for a student. I’m assured that both supervisors will work with my class schedule as needed.
> 
> I have never worked in the other department, so would have to learn that on top of being a new lead. At least I’m well acquainted with the current department.
> 
> The few people I really know in the other department (they just got some newbies in), I think I could work with, but the majority of those people are strangers to me. OTOH, in my current group, we have a rather bossy type who claims to not want to be a lead, but does have a fondness for running the show (I think she just doesn’t want to be responsible for the results), and a newer girl who acts like she already IS a lead and barks orders at everyone (mentioned this to current supervisor, who assures me it will not be allowed to be a problem), so I’m concerned about pushback from them if I do take the promotion in my current department. The rest of my current team, no problem. Most of them treat me as an authority/guidance figure already anyway, since I’ve been there longer than anyone else except our senior lead, who remains in that position and in overall charge of the department (under supervisor, of course).
> 
> Tough decision here. I actually rather like the “helping customers” part of the sales floor, and working in an air-conditioned part of the building would be rather nice, it being August :). Not sure how good a lead I could be in an area I’m still learning myself, though. Current area has the virtue that I’m already up to speed there, but I do have the two self-appointed “leads” who have me concerned about whether they’ll listen to me.
> 
> I thought typing all this out would help me figure it out, but I’m still a bit stymied. I do have a little time to decide, so it’s not like the manager insists on a definite decision first thing tomorrow.
> 
> TL;DR: I have to decide which of two departments at work, one of them my current one, I would prefer to be a lead in. There are pros and cons to both possibilities, and I’m trying to figure out which direction the scale tips.

Is it your objective to make a career with your current company? If so, moving to and learning the ropes in a new department could count towards your perceieved professional development.

If not, versatility looks good on a resume (if you even want to make your current company a highlight of your resume; otherwise, you might as well stay in your comfort zone).

Perhaps the ideal response would be to ask to take the promotion in your current department for a few months, until you’re comfortable in a leadership role, then transfer to the other department.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/99 "2015-08-12T08:30:24Z")

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**nettie** , I usually go with ‘better the devil you know’ when it comes to decisions like that. If the pay is the same whichever way you jump, might be better to stay with the people you know especially since you already know who the troublemakers are…and if you’re in charge, you’ll be in a better position to shout them down.

Back at irk today, 'im indoors is starting a new job today so I had his company on the train this morning. Might be the only time, since he didn’t have to be at the orifice until 9.30am 'cos the person he needed to see first thing doesn’t start until that time. After today, he’ll be sorting out his own hours and stuff like that.

My irkplace is as irksome as ever, the guy who had the hissy fit over timetabling yesterday is still sulking about it so I and another colleague are doing the job instead. He did a couple of other things yesterday that were extremely annoying so I’ll be having words with my line manager about it when we’re all back from our respective hollibobs. I don’t like to do it, but he is getting out of hand and up with that I will not put.

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/22080_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/head-in-the-clouds-mmp/727437/100 "2015-08-12T09:50:29Z")

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> [@dogbutler](#):
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> Worked in da Hood. Home, having beerverage and Mexican style fish stew.

Did you run out of chicken and rice?? 😕

😛

Good morning!! I slept thru the night and woke up exhausted. I was dreaming that I had to put together some sort of picnic or festival and I was responsible for the menu and the activities and deciding what went where. About the time the alarm went off, I was draping bacon strips over chickens. Not live chckens - these were destined for the oven. But live chickens would have made for a more entertaining dream. 😃

We’re promised a sunny and not-too-humid day. I may spend a little time outside pulling weeds. I have no plans for the day and not enough laundry for a load, altho I could wash the sheets I stripped off the bed the other day. No biggie - I’ll figure it out eventually.

Happy Wednesday!

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