# Health Care Freeloaders! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 21, 2017, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979 "2017-12-21T04:20:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/21 "2017-12-21T21:35:53Z")
> [@Bumbazine](#): > > Maybe I’m wrong, but I detected a strong current of sarcasm in that column. The author was talking about little kids in diapers. Of course they’re gonna scream and cry and puke on the doctor. They’re little kids. Are you possibly humor impaired? The column is about a serious issue, but is told in a humorous manner. If it started off as a rant about child healthcare not being in place, nobody on the right would read it. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/22 "2017-12-21T21:57:09Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > For every article like this, it should be mandatory to put who the person voted for. In articles like this, it’s not really necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/23 "2017-12-21T22:35:17Z")
> [@Bumbazine](#): > > Maybe I’m wrong, but I detected a strong current of sarcasm in that column. The author was talking about little kids in diapers. Of course they’re gonna scream and cry and puke on the doctor. They’re little kids. I think the OP got it. **Leo Krupe** , not so much. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/24 "2017-12-22T02:50:11Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > They also don’t have jobs, which is why they are good-for-nothing freeloaders! They haven’t worked a day in their lives! ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/25 "2017-12-22T07:59:48Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > They haven’t worked a day in their lives! Given that they poop in their pants, what do you expect! Now if we can only get these freeloaders to poop on Republican Congressmen, they could earn their keep. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/26 "2017-12-22T13:03:12Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > In articles like this, it’s not really necessary. Probably not, but I would rather base my “Fuck those people” on an actual fact instead of an assumption. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/27 "2017-12-22T13:37:30Z")
Love to see the author compare the cost of the basic well-child care for poor kids to end-of-life care for seniors. And the wrongdoers are the Epipen users, not the price-gouging producers?! Now, if he had targeted heroic measures for profoundly impaired infants with terminal or permanently disabling conditions, I’d possibly be more willing to listen… ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/28 "2017-12-22T15:15:43Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Probably not, but I would rather base my “Fuck those people” on an actual fact instead of an assumption. Well, they are freeloaders looking to get something for free from the government, so they are obviously democrats. Anyway, I’m not about “fuck those people”, even if they vote for people that will be taking away the things that keep their own children alive. I have sympathy for anyone who is struggling to survive in this world. I do say “fuck that attitude” towards those who gleefully vote for those who would take away necessary services for the less fortunate, whether or not those voters benefit from it themselves. I will admit to being human, and getting a bit of guilty schadenfreude pleasure out of seeing people complain about how their own choices are causing them harm, but that’s not something I claim to be proud of. > [@Dinsdale](#): > > Love to see the author compare the cost of the basic well-child care for poor kids to end-of-life care for seniors. And the wrongdoers are the Epipen users, not the price-gouging producers?! > > Now, if he had targeted heroic measures for profoundly impaired infants with terminal or permanently disabling conditions, I’d possibly be more willing to listen… I think there was some dry satire in that article that you may have overlooked. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/29 "2017-12-22T15:28:16Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Well, they are freeloaders looking to get something for free from the government, so they are obviously democrats. But the awesome analysis by **Wesley Clark** leads to probable Republican. To be clear I don’t mean the original article for this thread, but the one posted by WC. I have sympathy for people too, but not for those who willingly vote against their best interest because they are morons. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/30 "2017-12-22T15:47:56Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > But the awesome analysis by **Wesley Clark** leads to probable Republican. To be clear I don’t mean the original article for this thread, but the one posted by WC. I was referring to the same article, but I should have put a sarcasm tag in there somewhere. I agree that the Pastor and his stay at home wife in Alabama are most likely, from a statistical standpoint at least, going to be republican. Of course, there are ranges of republican, there were republicans in Alabama that just voted for a democrat to be their state senator; I can’t have too much condescension for them. OTOH, there are those who supported moore, because pushing through the republican agenda of defunding social services to those who need them the most was more important than him preying on underage girls; those don’t have much of a leg to stand on when they find that their own children need healthcare that they cannot afford. > [@](#): > > I have sympathy for people too, but not for those who willingly vote against their best interest because they are morons. I have the most sympathy and forgiveness for morons, for they know not what they do. A bit less sympathy for those who take advantage of morons to lead them astray. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/31 "2017-12-22T15:57:42Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I have the most sympathy and forgiveness for morons, for they know not what they do. A bit less sympathy for those who take advantage of morons to lead them astray. I don’t consider morons as people that don’t know what they are doing. Is that the definition? Moron to me is a person who acts in a stupid way either through knowing it is stupid but still doing it, or not thinking enough about it to consider their actions stupid. You know, like voting for a candidate who molests teenagers because “he represents the Christians” or whatever dumb shit they come up with. Or voting for the candidate who opposes CHIP while your own children are beneficiaries of CHIP benefits. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/32 "2017-12-22T16:30:26Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I don’t consider morons as people that don’t know what they are doing. Is that the definition? > > Moron to me is a person who acts in a stupid way either through knowing it is stupid but still doing it, or not thinking enough about it to consider their actions stupid. > > You know, like voting for a candidate who molests teenagers because “he represents the Christians” or whatever dumb shit they come up with. Or voting for the candidate who opposes CHIP while your own children are beneficiaries of CHIP benefits. I was going with this definition: > [@](#): > > A person of mild mental retardation having a mental age of from 7 to 12 years and generally having communication and social skills enabling some degree of academic or vocational education. That, to me, describes someone who is not capable of making the best choices for their own self interest, but are easily manipulated by others playing on their irrational fears. As an insult to people with no actual disabilities, and does or at least should know better than to complain when they are harmed by those they put into power, I agree. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/33 "2017-12-22T16:42:31Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > As an insult to people with no actual disabilities, and does or at least should know better than to complain when they are harmed by those they put into power, I agree. It’s a Christmas miracle! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/34 "2017-12-22T16:47:24Z")
The doctor is a mark. CHIP is one of the most popular programs in congress and there is zero chance that it won’t be funded. The program is so popular in congress that both sides try to attach other provisions to the funding bill because they know they would have a better chance attached to the program. What is currently happening is that the House wants to pay for the program out of Obamacare money and the Senate wants to keep the Obamacare money where it is. The House has already passed a bill funding CHIP for 5 years with only 15 Democrats voting for it but since margins are closer in the Senate there needs to be negotiations to try to attract Democrats to vote for the CHIP extension. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/35 "2017-12-22T17:05:18Z")
**I think we are going to have to be really, extremely blatant for many of the dopers that have both ADHD and a serious reading comprehension problem. The article is satire and the content does not match the headline. If you try your best, you can probably make it to the end with repeated attempts and understand what it actually says. If you still can’t do that, ask someone else to explain it to you.** ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/36 "2017-12-22T17:09:13Z")
Reading an entire article and thinking about what it is saying is hard. Glancing at a headline and being outraged is much, much easier. ---
**Author:** ![Heracles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heracles/32/487_2.png) [@Heracles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heracles)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/37 "2017-12-23T01:17:40Z")
The article was well-designed, but I find this thread even more entertaining! ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/38 "2017-12-23T01:35:41Z")
> [@Heracles](#): > > The article was well-designed, but I find this thread even more entertaining! Did you read the whole thread or did you just glance at the title? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/39 "2017-12-23T02:39:51Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > **The article is satire and the content does not match the headline. If you try your best, you can probably make it to the end with repeated attempts and understand what it actually says. If you still can’t do that, ask someone else to explain it to you.** For what it’s worth, it’s perfectly reasonable to believe that a conservative Texas doctor would say something like this, and many probably have. There’s no indication anywhere that the article is satire, unless you already know that the website’s a satire site. Poe’s Law in action… ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979/40 "2017-12-23T02:50:14Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > There’s no indication anywhere that the article is satire, unless you already know that the website’s a satire site. Seriously? He says he’s a pediatrician, and there is a picture of a baby in the article. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-freeloaders/804979.md?page=3)