# Health care horror story #13848732 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 26, 2009, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612 "2009-12-26T08:01:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/661 "2010-02-03T06:19:07Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > And please confirm… Did you actually EAT the napkin? Don’t you mean, _ETA: The Napkin??_ 😃 ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/662 "2010-02-03T07:38:16Z")
> [@Meyer6](#): > > I’m pretty sure they are just doing that ‘smile and nod’ thing that the rest of us do when confronted with seriously crazy people. Then they go home and have a good laugh, just like us. Again, you are wrong. As I said, we discuss, meaning we exchange opinions, etc. No one is just sitting there smiling and nodding. If that happens to you when you attempt to discuss things, you are doing it wrong. > [@Polycarp](#): > > This would be other well-to-do show-dog owners and the like? Or are you civil and willing to acknowledge the points of others IRL, as opposed to your qyuasi-trollish behavior here? In real life, people rarely do their best to misunderstand, jump to bizarre conclusions and just flat lie about what has been said, as happens here. I have quite a few friends who don’t agree with me and none of them have, for example, made assumptions about the unhappiness of my husband. Perhaps I simply have friends with better manners. > [@](#): > > Contrary to your apparent opinion, that was not the topic of this thread – until you came along and hijacked it. Wow, way to come up with a perfect example right away! What you quoted had _nothing_ to do with the topic of this thread. > [@](#): > > Bullshit right back atcha! Your initial post contained a paragraph or two of apologetic for thie insurance company – making a valid point about expectations of breadth of coverage, by the way – and then a rant about people who have “baybees” and expect everyone else to pay for it. Which of those had anything to do with “protest against people who fail to provide for every contingency that might befall them themselves without government help”? And that wasn’t “apologetic” for any insurance company, that was a reasonable possible solution to the OP’s FOF’s problem. > [@](#): > > Check this out, troll: The OP described a couple with inusrance covering childbirth and newborn care who had problems getting approval for needed care for what turned out to be a special-needs child. Insurance they paid for, which presumably (from the information given) should have paid for the needed care. Check this out troll. Insurance covering childbirth and newborn care doesn’t necessarily cover highly expensive heroic measures for a baby that isn’t likely to live long anyway. It also sounds like they have an HMO, meaning there are very specific things they have to do to get coverage out of network, if they can at all. Presumably they knew all of this long before the baby was born, yet you seem to think that simply because it involves a baby it’s OK for them to ignore the contract they signed and perhaps demand payment for something not covered. I know you want to believe that all insurance companies are the product of the devil, but even you should realize that when there is an issue, it isn’t always the fault of the insurance company. And even when it is, there are still many things that can be done other than just sitting about complaining. > [@](#): > > And eveyrthing since then has been in response to what others have posted. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/663 "2010-02-03T08:24:19Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > …there are still many things that can be done other than just sitting about complaining. Oh the iron(y), it _ **BURNS.** _ 😛 I’m done with this thread. If by chance any of you see me posting to it again, please just shoot me, OK? 😃 Unless of course Napkin Sandwiches happen to make a cameo again. In which case…nah, forget it. I’m bored now. Over AND out! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/664 "2010-02-03T14:13:19Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > … I tell you, I draw the line. Right here people. On the SDMB. A line. Drawn. > > * * * > > There it is. Don’t you dare bring your napkin sandwiches over this line. ## napkin san[COLOR=“Yellow”]dw[/COLOR]ich CMC fnord! Don’t eat the mayo, it looks a bit off! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/665 "2010-02-03T15:37:18Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > I have quite a few friends who don’t agree with me and none of them have, for example, made assumptions about the unhappiness of my husband. Perhaps I simply have friends with better manners. Or perhaps they don’t need to make assumptions about the unhappiness of your husband, because they know of his misery first hand. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/666 "2010-02-04T16:04:48Z")
**Napkin Sandwiches: The Napkining**. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/667 "2010-02-04T17:34:30Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > **Napkin Sandwiches: The Napkining**. On Lifetime? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/668 "2010-02-04T18:03:04Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > On Lifetime? No (pause to gag at name), SyFy. The Lifetime one is **My Mother Was a Napkin Sandwich**. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/669 "2010-02-04T18:13:09Z")
[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYxvtDMB1zk) I believe they have something to say about napkin sandwiches. Curlcoat you thief! Zero sandwiches = zero napkins. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/670 "2010-02-04T20:09:39Z")
> [@Meyer6](#): > > Or perhaps they don’t need to make assumptions about the unhappiness of your husband, because they know of his misery first hand. You know, if you weren’t so typical of people in this country, this would continue to be funny. But, it’s just gotten sad (as well as boring). Your response to new and/or different opinions is to be insulting, and not just to the opinion. Or is it just that you don’t have an intelligent answer to what I said? There you are, with all of that education you say you have, and all you can do is act like a preschooler. Again, if you weren’t so typical, it would be funny. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/671 "2010-02-04T22:23:17Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > You know, if you weren’t so typical of people in this country, this would continue to be funny. But, it’s just gotten sad (as well as boring). Your response to new and/or different opinions is to be insulting, and not just to the opinion. Or is it just that you don’t have an intelligent answer to what I said? > > There you are, with all of that education you say you have, and all you can do is act like a preschooler. Again, if you weren’t so typical, it would be funny. Wait - I thought people who had children without savings you deem appropriate were typical for this country? Or was it people who don’t want poor people to die in a gutter? But no, it’s people who think your husband is miserable who are typical? Hmmm, okay. And yes, I’m lying about my education. I am actually in preschool. Eating napkins with the other children. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/672 "2010-02-05T16:06:07Z")
**Napkin Sandwich II: Napkin Day.** ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/673 "2010-02-05T16:48:53Z")
_Napkin Sandwich III: The Wrath of Kleenex_ ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/674 "2010-02-05T17:02:23Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > _Napkin Sandwich III: The Wrath of Kleenex_ Napkin Sandwich IV: The Search for Spork. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/675 "2010-02-05T17:05:50Z")
No, that’s Napkin Sandwich _III_. Napkin Sandwich \*IV \*is **The Napkin Home**. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/676 "2010-02-05T17:12:33Z")
Napkin Sandwich V: The Final Meal ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/677 "2010-02-05T17:30:34Z")
_Napkin Sandwich VI: The Undiscovered Condiment_ ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/678 "2010-02-05T18:01:06Z")
_Napkin Sandwich VII:_ [Updates](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/heinz-updates-old-messy-ketchup-packets/article1456129/) ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/679 "2010-02-05T18:02:02Z")
I think after Napkin Sandwich VI it would roll over to Napkin: Generations, wouldn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/680 "2010-02-05T18:32:46Z")
_Napkin Sandwich: Generations_ was an abomination and/or never happened. Move on, please. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612.md?page=35)