# Health care horror story #13848732 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 26, 2009, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612 "2009-12-26T08:01:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 485
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612/485 "2010-01-20T03:19:36Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > And yes, some people will indeed lose their jobs. I doubt many actual health-care workers will need to fear redundancy, but those senior executives who have made it _their_ job to make health-care either unaffordable or unavailable to so many US citizens might find themselves in the dole-queue before too long. > > With a bitta luck anyway. 😃 And no concern for all of those employed by the insurance companies and the R&D workers? > [@Meyer6](#): > > As for your fathers income (interesting how your parents are poor or wealthy depending on what’s convenient) As I have said before, my parents were very poor when I was born, things slowly got better until I was about 10, when my father finally graduated and got his first job. At that point we were lower middle class and stayed there until at least when I left at 18. When I went right back to very poor. > [@](#): > > Face it, the only reasons you didn’t go to school is that either you chose not to for some reason, or because you know you didn’t have the grades/brains. Face it, there is absolutely no way you can know what was or was not available to me at that time. No, I didn’t have the grades in the sense that I didn’t have a 4.0 but I did have far better grades than the football players who got full scholarships to the U of W or WSU, or out of state universities. There were some partial specialty scholarships available, but I couldn’t afford to accept those, if I’d qualified (I didn’t look into it since I knew I couldn’t accept them). > [@](#): > > Yes, and? Are you under the impression that living on scholarships is living rich? I lived in a damp basement with several other students, with only a single spaceheater, no TV, and extremely limited grocery budget (think ramen noodles and tuna). Occasionally my parents kicked me a little towards groceries, but for the most part I was on my own. You’re not the only one who has struggled to support herself. Not by a long shot. This really shows you have no idea what _poor_ is. You had heat, food and parents to fall back on. I had no heat, one meal a day and no support system. The only place money came from was whatever I could earn. You were being paid to go to school, I was trying to stay alive. If you cannot see the difference, you have no idea what poverty is. > [@](#): > > I kind of don’t want to keep arguing about this stuff with you, You haven’t been - all you’ve been doing is insisting I’m wrong and you are right. With no proof. > [@kambuckta](#): > > Oh, I’m damned sure you were fully **aware** of the bank bail-outs. But you didn’t call-out the banks for being irresponsible did you? :rolleyes: Why is it you all frequently try to change the subject? This subject is not big business - i.e., banks. Tho I do find it quite interesting that big business is always evil, but big government isn’t. As if there is any real difference in their results. > [@](#): > > OK, now also above you’ve made a claim that INDIVIDUALS with mortgage problems were bailed-out with tax-payer funds. By what criteria did these people manage to attract such assistance? IOW, what were the eligibility conditions? How much were they given? Would you care to elaborate or provide a cite please? No, I’m tired of this game. You don’t live here, you have no clue and therefore I have no responsibility to you. All I’m going to say is this - apply logic. Why was it necessary to bail out those banks, and what was the result? Try thinking. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-horror-story-13848732/522612)._