I thought the qualification for being a part of the UHC program was being a citizen of the USA.
Anyway dumbfuck, s/s, the dole, pension plans and ALL THE OTHER PLETHORA OF OTHER GOVERNMENT WELFARE SCHEMES are just that…welfare schemes. They’re designed to help everyone, and to increase the net welfare of the community. And just because you think you’re gonna suffer adverse financial penalties under such a program makes me dance a Happy Dance of the Penguins of Joy.
They’re Chinese Communist penguins of course. Hope you quiver with ideological fear under your new regime curlie ya great galoot.
In Communist USA, SSDI fucks YOU. And then you’ll be birthing little red babies all around the place whether you like it or not…gotta keep the sprog rate up FOR THE PARTY darling.
It is ? I don’t see much difference in the general principle. You are demanding taxpayers pay for your wonderful existence. And this, not until you get healthy again, but until you die.
Is SSDI money generated from an inversed black hole, a cornucopia of dollar bills maybe ? The more people draw from it, the more taxes are needed to fund it. It’s not really a difficult concept to grasp.
But there was, I’ll concede you, a more advanced notion encapsulated in my sentence : whenever those state programs start needing too much tax to fund, they’re axed, or reduced. The more people like you request money they don’t need, the more every one in the system risks getting fucked by a reduction of their pensions and benefits, or a tightening of the rules along which they are entitled to this or that. This is what’s happened to the French unemployment benefits and social security systems, BTW.
Congratulation, **curly **: you’re a social parasite.
**curlcoat **said something that directly contradicted something else she said earlier?! My god, man! Stop the presses! Alert the media! This is an entirely unique occurence that we’ve never seen before, nor are likely to ever see again!
Maybe if you had, though, you wouldn’t have been reduced to eating napkin sandwiches. You’re a complete an utter moron NOT to take food stamps if you qualify for them - and your taxes paid for that program just as your taxes paid for your SSDI.
You’re rather starve than accept help? No, wait - you’ll accept help as long as it doesn’t make you one of those people, the sort you need to feel superior to. Well, hon, you’re no better than the rest of us, and less than most.
WHY NOT?
What sort stupid are you, NOT to take unemployment if you qualify? As you said, you paid into that - WTF? Do you think you earn extra brownie points for that sort of nonsense?
Or do you like napkin sandwiches?
Maybe if you’d taken the unemployment and the food stamps you could have eaten properly and you wouldn’t be a disabled parasite right now. Why didn’t you take responsibility for your health and nutrition? What is with people these days? They refuse help to keep them properly nourished then, when they’re debilitated from it, demand we support them on the public teat for their rest of their lives with SSDI. Outrageous!
Society expects people to be good parents who do as much as they can, but intelligent people can see that not everyone is going to be an ideal parent, and that sometimes things happen that are out of even the best parents control. It is not right to punish the children for this. Similarly, society expects good pet owners, but also provides safety nets in the form of animal shelters, pounds, dog and cat catchers, pest control, animal welfare officers, subsidised spay and neuter programs, and laws governing animal cruelty. We don’t just say “well, this dog got a bad owner, how stupid of him, let him die a painful death”. Generally allowing innocent creatures to suffer needlessly is considered a hallmark of a poor society.
I don’t know, how did you make that jump when others said they couldn’t afford health care for serious life-threatening conditions?
And I agree with Broomstick that you are an idiot for not taking the help that was available to you. Your pathological fear of receiving a hand up from anyone at any time has left you a shriveled old hag, spending your days critiquing everyone else, and reflecting on the glory days when you made $30,000 a year. If it weren’t for your husband you would be on social assitance of some sort now, and yet you still can’t see that.
And I still refuse to believe it was necessary for you to eat napkins while making $400/month in the 70s. Would that income even qualify you for foodstamps? Doubt it.
She didn’t eat napkins, she ate napkin sandwiches. I doubt there was any actual napkin-eating going on–it just held the lettuce, tomatoes, etc. until she could cram all that stuff into her gaping pit of a mouth.
To me that sounds like she ate the napkin itself, although I’m not sure. Usually hamburger condiments are just ketchup, mustard, relish, etc, so I’m not sure how you would not eat the napkin.
Also, she apparently believes it’s perfectly okay to steal food from a fast food place, but emphatically not okay to get assistance from government programs.
See, I was picturing something more like lettuce, tomatoes, onions, etc., which she’d pile *on *a napkin (instead of her bare hand), maybe top with ketchup/mustard/etc, and then eat *off *the napkin. But not eat the actual napkin itself.
Huh. Your only definition of “useful” or “responsible” is when a person has a wage paying job? If so, that is very sad.
has nothing to do with what I said.
Again, nothing to do with what I said, tho much closer than b). Anyway, what I have been saying is that we should quit considering it OK or normal or whatever descriptive term you want to use that people try to live on minimum wage. It used to be that such jobs were for teenagers, college students and retirees - I don’t know when it happened that people raising children on minimum wage became acceptable to mainstream US society but all that does is drive up costs, not to mention lowering expectations and goals.
Wow. When did the definition of government paid welfare change so drastically? No wonder so many people see no shame in living on welfare.
Just like every other person who gets a social security check. Which has been going on for decades long before I was even born, is something I paid into by working and something I am entitled to. Contrast that with people who blither out into the world without a plan or a clue, have a couple of kids and then whine about how expensive it is to live as an adult. I already have paid/am still paying to feed, house and give medical care to hundreds of thousands of people, now you want the taxpayer to support even more people, simply because they happen to live here. Quite an incentive to work hard and improve one’s status, huh?
And? I paid so others could have their social security, SSDI and SSI for 35+ years. Do you also bitch at retirees who take their SS even if they wouldn’t starve without it?
You bet! The state I live in is currently collapsing under the burden of all of the social programs we have here, and it certainly isn’t because of disability payments. We’ve been paying out food stamps, subsidized housing, WIC and all the rest for so long that we have people who spend their whole lives on it, never working, usually getting into trouble with the law and creating another generation who need all these things paid for as well. It doesn’t help that we are next door to a third world country, but then again if we didn’t just hand things to people without expecting them to do something to earn it, maybe we wouldn’t have so many scurrying over the border to have their babies.
I don’t spend anything near all day on the computer, much less this board. This would be one of those lies you all make up when you simply have no real answer.
Why would you think that?
You are not aware that there are things that can be done should the appeal be denied? I wasn’t going to put a ton of effort into it so all I did were the routine things.
Gosh how many assumptions can one person make. The napkin sandwiches were while I was still living with my parents so they had nothing to do with food stamps. No one is a moron for wanting to improve oneself without taking welfare and it’s pathetic that you seem to disagree with that. It is also pathetic that you think welfare and government mandated retirement are the same thing. Social Security would be self sustaining if the government would quit looting it, but welfare is simply a growing black hole. Social Security is funded by a specific tax, welfare comes out of the general budget (at least in California).
Obviously, I didn’t starve. Had it gotten close to that, I imagine I would have made different choices, but it didn’t.
:rolleyes: There were two periods in my life where I was unemployed for only a few months and it just wasn’t worth the paperwork and run around to file for unemployment, because I just didn’t need that money for that short period of time. I have not actually needed to work for about the past 15 years, so it simply wasn’t worth it to me to get the unemployment, particularly since we would have had to pay income tax on it.
The fact that you think that is nonsense says quite a bit about you.
The true definition of ‘welfare’ payments are any transfers of funds, subsidies and/or tax concessions directly from the government to individuals who qualify under the necessary criteria to be recipients of those funds, subsidies and/or tax concessions.
Just to give an example or three from here in Aus (and I’m sure there are many comparable examples to be had from the US), people buying an investment property can claim extra tax-deductions against the interest payable on that property. People buying private health insurance can claim a rebate of 30% of the cost of their insurance. Middle-class families can get a reduction of their child-care costs, and anybody investing in the Film Industry can get a nearly 100% tax-deductability status for their financial efforts.
Like you though, all of these recipients of ‘welfare’ dollars from the government fail to see that they ARE getting welfare. Like you, they pidgeon-hole welfare recipients into neat little categories like the unemployed and single mothers with 15 kids. Like you, curlcoat, they deny that they are recieving welfare payments, when, like you getting your SSDI, they are doing exactly that.
Welfare might be a dirty word in your lexicon dear, but just make sure (before you start chucking rocks at others) that your walls are made of something tougher than the glass currently cladding them.
Now fuck off and get a real job you lazy, malingering whinger.
Oh, and if you really want to get into an argument about what defines a ‘welfare’ payment or provision, you’d better be prepared to back up your criteria with some dead-set cites girlie. Nobody doubts that payments to the unemployed and to the poor are indeed ‘welfare’. How about the SSDI program? How about government subsidies to farmers? How about (for a topical subject) the government bail-outs for the banks affected by the GFC?? You’ve had ample time spouting shit, now I wanna see some actual data that backs up your ignorant opinions.
No more of your dead-beat welfare jivecurlcoat…get with the program and start talking some sense.
Oh. All right then. Well, there must be about… oh… a hundred bucks of mine in the Social Security piggy bank by now. Maybe two ? Clearly I’m entitled to retire now. I paid my dues, time after time.
Hint : people on SSDI don’t pay for themselves. Even with a lifetime of work, you simply don’t put enough money in the jar to fund 20 years of pension. Your kids do that for you, or rather those 'orrible tykes who should never have been conceived by their idiotic, unplanning parents do. Read that again : they’re paying for you. You paid for your daddy.
Was that a cringe ? Yeah, I know, me too.
WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE ?
How in the blazes are you still paying, if you’re not working ? And what are your special qualifications for SSDI, besides “you happen to live here” ?
Right, right. It’s those *other *social parasites. All their fault. You’re white as the driven slush. Gotcha. Go and break your hip, you hypocrite.
