# Health care lies and the stupidity of Paul Krugman **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 11, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906 "2008-04-11T15:43:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/61 "2008-04-12T03:05:30Z")
[QUOTE=Meyer6] So, 2 1/2 inches - if you don’t believe in providing children with medical care, I assume you also don’t believe in providing kids with an education. So, we may as well shut all the public schools down, because parents should just pay for their kids education. Oh wait, that would leave you out of a job wouldn’t it. No more complaining about teaching for you! Hope you have a good rainy day plan yourself. [/QUOTE] I support going to an all private school system. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/62 "2008-04-12T03:12:32Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] I support going to an all private school system. [/QUOTE] a) Then why do you teach in public schools? Isn’t that awfully hypocritical? b) You realize that if all schools are private, children would no longer be required to attain an education to any level. Parents could just let their kids get no education at all. If that happens, then how are those kids going to go on and get the kind of jobs that provide health insurance, or indeed any job at all? Don’t you see how that’s an endless cycle? That’s a bit of a bitch, isn’t it. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/63 "2008-04-12T03:32:42Z")
I so cannot wait until they ban this cuntmaggot’s sorry ass. There’s no way he’ll last much longer here. He’s like **TLDR/VCO3** , only not as shrill. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/64 "2008-04-12T03:42:28Z")
[QUOTE=Meyer6] a) Then why do you teach in public schools? Isn’t that awfully hypocritical? [/quote] Living in a society involves compromises. ---
**Author:** ![stockton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@stockton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stockton)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/65 "2008-04-12T03:43:10Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] This a veiled threat against my life and is totally inappropriate. [/QUOTE] Get off the cross. We need the wood. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/66 "2008-04-12T03:46:00Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] Living in a society involves compromises. [/QUOTE] You’re a funny little fucker, you know that? So being a total fucking hypocrite doesn’t bother you. It’s bad enough that you seemingly suck donkey balls at your chosen profession, without being such a douche about the very existence of that profession. And, answer the other half of my point, please: > [@](#): > > b) You realize that if all schools are private, children would no longer be required to attain an education to any level. Parents could just let their kids get no education at all. If that happens, then how are those kids going to go on and get the kind of jobs that provide health insurance, or indeed any job at all? Don’t you see how that’s an endless cycle? That’s a bit of a bitch, isn’t it. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/67 "2008-04-12T03:53:56Z")
[QUOTE=Meyer6] You’re a funny little fucker, you know that? So being a total fucking hypocrite doesn’t bother you. It’s bad enough that you seemingly suck donkey balls at your chosen profession, without being such a douche about the very existence of that profession. [/quote] I do not get to make the decision on how education will work in our society. Is person that thinks the Iraq War is wrong, a total hypocrite for helping to fund it? > [@](#): > > And, answer the other half of my point, please: Why can’t we require that children be educated in private schools? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/68 "2008-04-12T03:55:30Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] I do not get to make the decision on how education will work in our society. Is person that thinks the Iraq War is wrong, a total hypocrite for helping to fund it? Why can’t we require that children be educated in private schools? [/QUOTE] What to do with the kids whose parents’ CANNOT AFFORD PRIVATE SCHOOLS? I suppose they’ll end up like you. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/69 "2008-04-12T03:59:15Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] I do not get to make the decision on how education will work in our society. Is person that thinks the Iraq War is wrong, a total hypocrite for helping to fund it? [/QUOTE] No, a soldier who thinks the war is wrong is a total hypocrite for being paid to fight in it. Look, I know this is a tricky concept, but by becoming a educator you are involved in and implicitly approve of the system much more than just an average taxpayer does. I think it’s a total travesty that a complete waste of space such as yourself is allowed to even be near children, let alone attempt to teach them anything. There is no way that it’s a good idea to have kids taught by someone who doesn’t believe that a decent education is something all kids deserve, not just rich peoples kids. [QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] Why can’t we require that children be educated in private schools? [/QUOTE] Because not all parents can afford it, dumbass. ETA: **Guin** , what do you want to bet he’s going to suggest that those people just shouldn’t have kids? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/70 "2008-04-12T04:02:30Z")
[QUOTE=Meyer6] Because not all parents can afford it, dumbass. [/quote] Well, too bad then! No education for them! > [@](#): > > ETA: **Guin** , what do you want to bet he’s going to suggest that those people just shouldn’t have kids? If you could somehow convert this guy’s stupidity in a dollar amount, how about that? ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/71 "2008-04-12T04:09:06Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] If you could somehow convert this guy’s stupidity in a dollar amount, how about that? [/QUOTE] Dude, there’s no way I’m betting that much! Who do you think I am, Bill Gates? ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/72 "2008-04-12T04:09:22Z")
[QUOTE=Meyer6] No, a soldier who thinks the war is wrong is a total hypocrite for being paid to fight in it. Look, I know this is a tricky concept, but by becoming a educator you are involved in and implicitly approve of the system much more than just an average taxpayer does. I think it’s a total travesty that a complete waste of space such as yourself is allowed to even be near children, let alone attempt to teach them anything. There is no way that it’s a good idea to have kids taught by someone who doesn’t believe that a decent education is something all kids deserve, not just rich peoples kids. [/quote] You think poor school districts are providing decent education? You need to check out some of the public schools in Chicago. > [@](#): > > Because not all parents can afford it, dumbass. Then they should not have chosen to have kids. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/73 "2008-04-12T04:12:35Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] Then they should not have chosen to have kids. [/QUOTE] I take it back, **Guinastasia** , I take it back! I \*will \*bet you that much! ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/74 "2008-04-12T04:13:11Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] Then they should not have chosen to have kids. [/QUOTE] So what if they can’t afford birth control? (dammit, this is fun!)😛 ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/75 "2008-04-12T04:16:51Z")
And what if their circumstances change? Believe it or not, people who have good jobs when their kids are born might not still have them when the kids are older. What if the parents die and the kid is an orphan? ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/76 "2008-04-12T04:18:27Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] So what if they can’t afford birth control? (dammit, this is fun!)😛 [/QUOTE] An abortion is cheaper than a baby. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/77 "2008-04-12T04:20:39Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] You think poor school districts are providing decent education? You need to check out some of the public schools in Chicago [/QUOTE] So what - they shouldn’t even try to give them an education at all? You’re missing my point (not surprising), I’m not saying the system is perfect. But I fail to see how your “education and health care only for the worthy” system is better. Let me ask you something - where did you go to school? Could your parents have paid for private school for you and any brothers or sisters you have? Where did you go to college? Community college? State school? Aren’t those funded publicly too? ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/78 "2008-04-12T04:21:22Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] If you could somehow convert this guy’s stupidity in a dollar amount, how about that? [/QUOTE] I do not want to sound like prick, but I am eligible to join MENSA. I am not claiming that makes an honest genius, but my IQ is above average. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/79 "2008-04-12T04:22:21Z")
Oh good Christ. The stupid is painful. [QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] I do not want to sound like prick [/QUOTE] Too late for that, dearie. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906/80 "2008-04-12T04:24:55Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] I do not want to sound like prick [/QUOTE] Buddy, that ship has sailed! [QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] …but I am eligible to join MENSA. I am not claiming that makes an honest genius, but my IQ is above average. [/QUOTE] Ha, ha ha ha ha! First, I don’t really believe you. Everyone and their uncle around here claim the MENSA thing. Second, Newsflash - nobody is impressed. We judge by who you are, how you argue, etc. And even if on paper you’re an Einstein, you are acting like quite a dumbass. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/health-care-lies-and-the-stupidity-of-paul-krugman/444906.md?page=5)