# Heartache **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [January 25, 2000, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heartache/6549 "2000-01-25T19:50:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2000, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heartache/6549/1 "2000-01-25T19:50:00Z")
How come when one’s heart has figuritively been broken, it is often accompanied by an actual physical pain in the center of one’s chest? Is this phenomenon responsible for the widespread belief that the heart is the organ of emotional love? * * * Elmer J. Fudd, Millionaire. I own a mansion and a yacht. ---
**Author:** ![pluto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f08c70/32.png) [@pluto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pluto)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2000, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heartache/6549/2 "2000-01-25T20:15:00Z")
I don’t know the reasons why emotional pain is often accompanied by physical pain but consider that the opposite is often true as well. Emotional delight is often accompanied by feelings of euphoria and exhilaration. In the exuberant case the (physical) feelings are often attributed to endorphins or adrenalin. I suppose something similar occurs to accompany bad news. ## The notion of the heart as the seat of emotions is widespread but certainly not universal. The early Maoris thought the kidneys fulfilled that role. When the Bible was translated into Maori the term they used for the emotional center was, IIRC, _ngakau_ which is usually translated as kidneys. This creates some unusual imagery for us poor westerners. “Who shall ascend unto the hill of the Lord?”, the Psalmist asks. The answer? “He that hath clean hands and pure kidneys.” “pluto … a seriously demented but oddly addictive presence here.” – TVeblen ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2000, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heartache/6549/3 "2000-01-25T20:34:00Z")
“Fall in love, fall in love, says my kidney . . .” “Don’t go breakin’ my kidney . . .” “Won’t you be my sweet-kidney, I’m in love with you . . .” “My kidneys will go on . . .” ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2000, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heartache/6549/4 "2000-01-25T20:46:00Z")
Haven’t you ever heard that the way to a man’s heart is through his stomach? Well, it turns out that the reverse is also true. The nerve bundle that runs through the center of the chest contains nerves from both the stomach and the heart. The body is notoriously bad at mixing signals. So what happens is that when you experience a “heartbreaking” experience, you feel increased anxiety and stress. And what’s associated with anxiety and stress? Ulcers and acid reflux. Heartburn. So all those poor creatures in the folk songs who died of a broken heart (Anachie Gordon, etc.) – well, they should have taken antacids. ---
**Author:** ![lvick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d07c76/32.png) [@lvick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lvick)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2000, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heartache/6549/5 "2000-01-26T00:43:00Z")
“My achy breaky kidney.” ---
**Author:** ![aseymayo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@aseymayo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aseymayo)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2000, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heartache/6549/6 "2000-01-26T00:48:00Z")
Kidneybreak Hotel? ---
**Author:** ![MrKnowItAll](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrknowitall/32/87_2.png) [@MrKnowItAll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrKnowItAll)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2000, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heartache/6549/7 "2000-01-26T14:22:00Z")
“Groove is in the kidneeeeyy!” ---
**Author:** ![OldBroad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@OldBroad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldBroad)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2000, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heartache/6549/8 "2000-01-26T15:12:00Z")
“Goodmornin’ Liver-ache” (Liver is easier to elide than kidney) ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2000, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heartache/6549/9 "2000-01-26T15:36:00Z")
You guys laugh at the Maori kidneys all you want. Just remember that in European history, the Romans thought that all emotions (including love) had their source in the bowels. * * * Tom~ ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heartache/6549/10 "2000-01-27T06:09:00Z")
Forgive me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Shakespeare think the liver was the seat of human emotions? I remember Hamlet calling himself “pigeon-livered”, meaning coward. ---
**Author:** ![aseymayo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@aseymayo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aseymayo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heartache/6549/11 "2000-01-27T06:15:00Z")
“I Left My Bowels in San Francisco”? Oh dear. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Zambezi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@Mr.Zambezi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Zambezi)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heartache/6549/12 "2000-01-27T06:27:00Z")
all this excess humor is getting my bile up. ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2000, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heartache/6549/13 "2000-01-26T22:38:00Z")
I, too, have felt the physical ache that the OP mentions. Cross my spleen and hope to die.