# Heaven and hell found! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 28, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572 "2011-05-28T16:04:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/1 "2011-05-28T16:04:23Z")
I was sitting with my wife last night waiting for a concert to begin. I started telling her about this thread: [I finally told my oldest daughter I'm an atheist. Now she's upset and crying. - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=609989) and conjectured that the probable reason the daughter ran screaming from the room was that she is convinced that her father—whom she obviously loves—was going to burn in hell forever. (Damn those priests who teach such a despicable doctrine!) An elderly woman in the row ahead of ours turned around and said something like, “Excuse me, I couldn’t help but overhearing what you said. You know hell has been discovered in Siberia [I immediately thought Gulag] when they dug a hole and heard the screams of the damned coming up.” I didn’t answer, but she turned around a few seconds later and said, “And heaven is real too. I have a friend who died and went to heaven and they told her that her time hadn’t yet come and sent her back to earth.” My wife and I just stared at each other. Can she be for real? We avoided further conversation on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_in\_second\_hand\_clothing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9d8465/32.png) [@wolf\_in\_second\_hand\_clothing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_in_second_hand_clothing)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/2 "2011-05-28T16:22:31Z")
Well, I guess that settles that! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/3 "2011-05-28T16:25:49Z")
Snopes on the [Hell Hole.](http://www.snopes.com/religion/wellhell.asp) ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/4 "2011-05-28T19:51:32Z")
Thanks, Pat. I was going to try to track that down. ---
**Author:** ![\_mostly\_Harmless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/9d8465/32.png) [@\_mostly\_Harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_mostly_Harmless)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/5 "2011-05-28T21:43:46Z")
I wish I could meet more people like that. It’s always nice to meet a kindred spirit. And by ‘kindred spirit’ I mean, of course, someone who’s out of their effing gourd. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/6 "2011-05-28T22:41:11Z")
LOL. Just out og curiousity, what concert was it? ---
**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/7 "2011-06-06T09:44:42Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Snopes on the [Hell Hole.](http://www.snopes.com/religion/wellhell.asp) Oh my god, that pun at the end of the Snopes article! Epic! Painful! Fiendishly clever. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/8 "2011-06-06T10:24:56Z")
Well, that would sure let the Russians upstage Obama. Obama kills Osama bin Laden? The Russians kill the Devil! “Americans, Americans…always thinking small!” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/9 "2011-06-06T11:25:49Z")
I’ve heard the audio clip. Amongst others, apparently [Wilhelm](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_scream) is in hell. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/10 "2011-06-06T15:32:12Z")
[Related Cracked Article](http://www.cracked.com/blog/8-real-photographs-that-prove-hell-exists-earth/) The last entry is especially relevant. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/11 "2011-06-06T17:02:37Z")
Any baseball player who has ever played for the SF Giants at AT&T park will tell you that it is heaven, and that if you are a bad player, you get sent to down to Fresno, which is hell. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/12 "2011-06-06T17:07:15Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > LOL. Just out og curiousity, what concert was it? It was supposed to be Christian rock, but it ended up being some black guy who told jokes. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/13 "2011-06-06T20:59:51Z")
I like that (at least on my browser) the Snopes article about the discovery of Hell is accompanied by an ad saying “Visit Myrtle Beach South Carolina - Summer Vacation Deals”! ---
**Author:** ![LeeshaJoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LeeshaJoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeeshaJoy)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/14 "2011-06-06T22:36:04Z")
Here’s what gets me. Suppose, for the moment, that you, personally, really _had_ discovered an underground chamber full of people in horrible pain. Regardless of your religious beliefs or lack thereof, wouldn’t you do everything in your power to _ **get them out again?** _ Heck, more than 3 months and twenty million dollars were spent to get the Chilean miners to safety, and they weren’t being _actively tortured._ ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/15 "2011-06-06T23:16:30Z")
I don;t know about hell, but I found a little slice of [heaven](http://www.edto.net/pg-brucepeninsulanationalpark/) on the weekend… ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/16 "2011-06-06T23:22:43Z")
During his periodic attempts to convert me (back) to Xtianity, my father brings up that story, which has been circulating on the net for years. The worst part is that his memory is going, so each time he does it he thinks it is the first time. ---
**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/17 "2011-06-06T23:31:21Z")
Y’know, this whole Hell Hole thing just begs to be the subject of a Chick tract…surprised he hasn’t picked up on it yet. ---
**Author:** ![chowrunner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47c2d/32.png) [@chowrunner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowrunner)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/18 "2011-06-09T15:33:31Z")
Hell is real. The Bible teaches Hell, Hades, the grave; these are one and the same. The only place meant for eternal damnation or torment is the lake of fire. This is the place where Satan, the False Prophet and the Beast will be thrown into at the end or the Great Day of the Lord; and all whose names are not found in the book of life. (Revelation) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/19 "2011-06-09T15:38:18Z")
> [@chowrunner](#): > > Hell is real. The Bible teaches Hell, Hades, the grave; these are one and the same. The only place meant for eternal damnation or torment is the lake of fire. This is the place where Satan, the False Prophet and the Beast will be thrown into at the end or the Great Day of the Lord; and all whose names are not found in the book of life. (Revelation) Aren’t you just a cuddly, loving Christian? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572/20 "2011-06-09T15:45:07Z")
> [@chowrunner](#): > > The only place meant for eternal damnation or torment is the lake of fire. This is the place where Satan, the False Prophet and the Beast will be thrown into at the end or the Great Day of the Lord; and all whose names are not found in the book of life. (Revelation) Better hope for some good proof-readers Christians. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heaven-and-hell-found/583572.md?page=2)