# Heaven's Way Video Game a Scandal?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 24, 2002, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464 "2002-11-24T07:00:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![0rbytal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/65b543/32.png) [@0rbytal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/0rbytal)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/1 "2002-11-24T07:00:54Z")
I personally heard an interview on the radio this past week with a creator of a video game called “Heaven’s Way” that he claims their target audience is 6-12 year olds. The intent is to teach them proper Christian values and actions. The primary attack is on homosexuality. The player is Jesus and he goes around people’s houses and when he sees two men fornicating, “has one man’s head between the other man’s legs”, etc., He presses a button to preach bible verses and then a beam of light comes down and takes them to Heaven. My problem comes from the fact that this sick \*\*\*\* wants to graphically show kids from 6-12 two men having sex or fornicating on a video game! While the intentions may be well I don’t think the end justifies the means. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/2 "2002-11-24T08:43:22Z")
If the game is a 3D shooter that takes place outside in broad daylight, then color me impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/3 "2002-11-24T09:08:33Z")
I think it’s likely a hoax, since there seems to be no mention of it on the web. (Except here, of course.) Even the most obscure game in the development phases is mentioned _somewhere_. ---
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/4 "2002-11-24T10:49:55Z")
Sure it wasn’t on the Phil Hendrie Show? I got whooshed by that guy a few times, myself. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/5 "2002-11-24T14:20:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 0rbytal \* > \*\*While the intentions may be well I don’t think the end justifies the means. \*\* Pardon? ---
**Author:** ![CthulhuSpawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@CthulhuSpawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CthulhuSpawn)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/6 "2002-11-24T14:47:32Z")
> [@](#): > > The intent is to teach them proper Christian values and actions. Sneaking around, poking their noses into other people’s houses, and condeming private actions of others? This smells like a hoax to me, and in that light, it’s actually rather funny. Pressing a button to preach bible verses? LOL ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/7 "2002-11-24T17:21:50Z")
What Larry said. I’m guessing that this interview was with someone who had either designed his own video game but it’s not on the market, or else he was merely shooting the breeze with the interviewer about a video game he’d _like to see_, but that it’s not a real game. I even went over to god hates fags dot com to see if it was one of their hot ideas, but the website is down, “You do not have permission to access this page”. There is a God, after all. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/8 "2002-11-24T20:06:47Z")
“You only winged him and made him a Unitarian.” ---
**Author:** ![CyberPundit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@CyberPundit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyberPundit)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/9 "2002-11-24T20:36:43Z")
“While the intentions may be well I don’t think the end justifies the means.” So I take it that you don’t find the idea of using a video game as a way of attacking homosexuals offensive. ---
**Author:** ![Greenpiece](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/57b2e6/32.png) [@Greenpiece](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greenpiece)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/10 "2002-11-24T20:41:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 0rbytal \* > \*\*I personally heard an interview on the radio this past week with a creator of a video game called “Heaven’s Way” that he claims their target audience is 6-12 year olds. The intent is to teach them proper Christian values and actions. The primary attack is on homosexuality. > The player is Jesus and he goes around people’s houses and when he sees two men fornicating, “has one man’s head between the other man’s legs”, etc., He presses a button to preach bible verses and then a beam of light comes down and takes them to Heaven. > My problem comes from the fact that this sick \*\*\*\* wants to graphically show kids from 6-12 two men having sex or fornicating on a video game! While the intentions may be well I don’t think the end justifies the means. \*\* It sounds just great for my 7 yr old. He’ll love it… 😃 And It will teach him good solid Christian morals, and about oral sex… which I’d rather not explain to him myself. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Y.T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Y.T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Y.T)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/11 "2002-11-24T20:49:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 0rbytal \* > \*\* > My problem comes from the fact that this sick \*\*\*\* wants to graphically show kids from 6-12 two men having sex or fornicating on a video game! While the intentions may be well I don’t think the end justifies the means. \*\* Ignoring that this is probably a Hoax (never can tell with those darn christian busy bodies). You have no problem with the actual message just the messenger? ---
**Author:** ![0rbytal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/65b543/32.png) [@0rbytal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/0rbytal)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/12 "2002-11-25T04:57:24Z")
I think teaching values to children should be up to the parents in every situation, and hopefully they would be from the Bible… My problem is the fact that they would traumatize their “target audience” to portray their message! ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/13 "2002-11-25T05:18:43Z")
—I think teaching values to children should be up to the parents in every situation, and hopefully they would be from the Bible…— I can’t wait for the fan modification “Operation: Destroy Fig Trees!” ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/14 "2002-11-25T07:07:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Soup\_du\_jour \* > \*\*Sure it wasn’t on the Phil Hendrie Show? > \*\* That was my first thought. That sounds right up his alley. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/15 "2002-11-25T12:39:24Z")
“All right! Full conversion!” ---
**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/16 "2002-11-25T13:10:10Z")
You heard it on [99x.](http://99x.com/) Specifically, you heard it with Barnes, Leslie, and Jimmy on the Morning X. It was all fake. Periodically, they have a wildly controversial and completely fabricated guest on just to get a rise out of the callers over something that is completely absurd. About 30-60 minutes prior to the bit, they said what was going on, but knew that since the audience for radio is continually coming and going, a whole batch of people would not know it was a fake. Towards the end of the show, they announced the fakery. They did the same basic thing a few months ago about a guy that supposedly wanted to enact legislation in Michigan outlawing people with mental disabilities in restaurants. ---
**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/17 "2002-11-25T14:51:20Z")
> [@](#): > > _originally posted by 0rbytal_ > I think teaching values to children should be up to the parents in every situation, **and hopefully they would be from the Bible** (emphasis mine) Why? ---
**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/18 "2002-11-25T15:04:45Z")
No, wait, on reading another thread, I don’t think you’ll be able to give me an answer that I could even hope to understand. > [@](#): > > I would like to address torture in general… Forget the death penalty, Bring Back Torture! The reason so many go back to a criminal lifestyle is because we _treat_ them in prison instead of punish them and they don’t see going back to prison as such a bad thing… If the government would torture people for felonies then the felon would still leave with their life and is pretty sure they don’t ever want to go back. You said [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=145820), apparently serious. ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/19 "2002-11-25T17:26:48Z")
“You are playing. We’re a team.” ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464/20 "2002-11-25T17:37:43Z")
> [@](#): > > The player is Jesus and he goes around people’s houses and when he sees two men fornicating, “has one man’s head between the other man’s legs”, etc., He presses a button to preach bible verses and then a beam of light comes down and takes them to Heaven. The moral of the game: if you want to go to Heaven, give head! Daniel [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heavens-way-video-game-a-scandal/138464.md?page=2)