# Heckuva Job, Orangey!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 24, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088 "2017-01-24T23:17:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/1 "2017-01-24T23:17:47Z")

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> [Officials Beg Trump to Send Help After Storms Kill 20 Across South](http://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/officials-beg-trump-send-help-after-storms-kill-20-across-n711071)
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> Desperate officials pleaded with President Donald Trump to send federal assistance Monday after at least 20 people were killed by storms and tornadoes that caused devastation authorities likened to the impact of a nuclear blast.
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> Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant said he had dispatched a letter to Trump pleading for help after four people were killed in his state. He said more 1,000 homes were damaged in Hattiesburg and surrounding Forrest County alone — 239 of which were obliterated…

I’m sure he’ll get right on it once he gets his nose back in joint about people not showing up for his party…

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/2 "2017-01-24T23:21:17Z")

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I’m sure the GOP will stick to the convictions they maintained over the last eight years, and refuse to allocate a penny for relief without matching cuts elsewhere.

…Right?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/3 "2017-01-24T23:27:44Z")

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Bah. I like people who don’t get themselves killed in storms.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/4 "2017-01-24T23:31:48Z")

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Trump’s people are probably frantically looking for the plans for giving federal assistance that were left behind by Obama’s people. Because they don’t have a fucking clue.

“Get moving you guys, think, THINK!; What would Obama do?”

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/5 "2017-01-24T23:40:50Z")

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He’s double checking voting records before sending help.

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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/6 "2017-01-24T23:56:41Z")

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Should have bought a real home. Sad.

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**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/7 "2017-01-25T00:36:09Z")

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From another thread about what he might be renamed:

Because of all the red herrings he offers to the gullible/hated news media daily (largest inauguration crowd, 5 million illegal votes, etc.), and for his hair dye color, how about Orange Herring? x 2, at least for the initials, OH OH.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/8 "2017-01-25T00:40:52Z")

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> [@Ignatz](#):
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> From another thread about what he might be renamed:
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> Because of all the red herrings he offers to the gullible/hated news media daily (largest inauguration crowd, 5 million illegal votes, etc.), and for his hair dye color, how about Orange Herring? x 2, at least for the initials, OH OH.

Orange Herring?

well thought out but I’m not sure it has legs 😛

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**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/9 "2017-01-25T01:15:20Z")

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Muad’_Don: His name is a fibbing word!_

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/10 "2017-01-25T01:35:14Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> Orange Herring?

You can use it to cut down the mightiest tree in the grove.

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/11 "2017-01-25T01:45:45Z")

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> [@Battle\_Pope](#):
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> Muad’_Don: His name is a fibbing word!_

I’ve already started using his name as a generic pejorative: I gotta take a trump, he really trumped things up, you totally trumped the pooch this time, etc.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/12 "2017-01-25T01:51:10Z")

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OK, let’s make sure we know what’s going on here. The article is from Monday, right? And it says that governors sent letters to Trump on Monday, right? Isn’t it the case (and I’ll be happy to be corrected if I’m wrong) that the president can’t just “send in the troops” until there’s been a request from the local government?

For instance, this is from the link in the OP:

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> In Dougherty County, Georgia, where four people were killed, county commission Chairman Chris Cohilas said Monday that he has been “begging FEMA for boots on the ground,” referring to the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
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> “I’m asking President Trump to cut through the red tape and get people on the damned ground here,” he said.

From the [Atlanta Journal:](http://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-news/south-georgia-need-help/SNOPQLEJIUJwjTvsIKRASO/)

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> “We’ve been begging for help from FEMA (since Jan. 2) – the reason the federal government exists,” County Chairman Christopher S. Cohilas said. “This community was crippled. Our families have been hurting, needing help for some time.”
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> Cohilas called on President Donald Trump to help cut the “bureaucratic red tape” and help get some “damn boots on the ground.”
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> While Cohilas singled out the federal government for his ire, it is state officials who must first make a disaster declaration, clearing the way for federal assistance. Soon after Cohilas’ comments, Gov. Nathan Deal’s office announced that nine more counties had been declared disaster areas. One of them was Dougherty County.

Anyway, I’ll be happy to join in the chorus once I understand the timeline better, but right now things are a little fuzzy. We’ve got County Chairman Cohilas talking about how he’s “begging for help” but he doesn’t seem to understand that the feds can’t just barge their way in at the request of some county official.

(That last article, for some reason, has the dates screwed up referring to Jan 2 when it’s supposed to be Jan 23.)

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**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/13 "2017-01-25T01:58:02Z")

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> [@hotflungwok](#):
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> I’ve already started using his name as a generic pejorative: **I gotta take a trump** , he really trumped things up, you totally trumped the pooch this time, etc.

(Bolding mine) Like it, I’ll try it out over the next few days.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/14 "2017-01-25T01:58:18Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I’m sure the GOP will stick to the convictions

Convictions? Stick to the GOP?

That’s So 70s…!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/15 "2017-01-25T02:07:06Z")

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> [@hotflungwok](#):
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> I’ve already started using his name as a generic pejorative: I gotta take a trump, he really trumped things up, you totally trumped the pooch this time, etc.

The kids in Britain took care of it long ago. “Trumpeting” is farting, and a “trump” is a fart.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/16 "2017-01-25T02:39:25Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> I’m sure he’ll get right on it once he gets his nose back in joint about people not showing up for his party…

That’s a done deal. The press is lying, his inauguration was the biggest, most beautiful and most watched inauguration in the history of inaugurations. Unfortunately for the storm victims, his team is now hard at work discrediting the lies told by Gallup and Rasmussen about his approval numbers.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/17 "2017-01-25T02:40:59Z")

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Sorry, southern Trumpers. Donald just put a hiring freeze on hiring Federal employees. They can’t spare anybody to drain your swamp.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/18 "2017-01-25T03:35:00Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> OK, let’s make sure we know what’s going on here. The article is from Monday, right? And it says that governors sent letters to Trump on Monday, right? Isn’t it the case (and I’ll be happy to be corrected if I’m wrong) that the president can’t just “send in the troops” until there’s been a request from the local government?

I don’t know the answer to that either, but Orangey apparently has no problem issuing threats to [send in the feds to take care of the “carnage” in Chicago.](http://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-threatens-send-feds-chicago-carnage/story?id=45025761) When the President of the United States says stuff like that, it sounds a bit like he’s floating the “martial law” trial balloon to me.

Again, I don’t know the legality of sending any federal assistance without local request, and it might just be ignorant bluster coming from an ignorant manchild, but for fuck’s sake, how is the president even _hinting_ at something like this OK?

The water in the pot just keeps getting warmer and warmer, and us frogs just keep getting sleepier and sleepier.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/19 "2017-01-25T04:00:18Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I don’t know the answer to that either, but Orangey apparently has no problem issuing threats to [send in the feds to take care of the “carnage” in Chicago.](http://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-threatens-send-feds-chicago-carnage/story?id=45025761) When the President of the United States says stuff like that, it sounds a bit like he’s floating the “martial law” trial balloon to me.
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> Again, I don’t know the legality of sending any federal assistance without local request, and it might just be ignorant bluster coming from an ignorant manchild, but for fuck’s sake, how is the president even _hinting_ at something like this OK?
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> The water in the pot just keeps getting warmer and warmer, and us frogs just keep getting sleepier and sleepier.

Well, I just watched the entire PBS News Hour tonight and there was not any mention of this at all. I’m just thinking if this is Katrina II, there might be something about it on the news. But I guess we’ll see what tomorrow’s news brings.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heckuva-job-orangey/778088/20 "2017-01-25T12:46:03Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> The water in the pot just keeps getting warmer and warmer, and us frogs just keep getting sleepier and sleepier.

So very much this.

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