# Hector St Clare - racist much?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 6, 2016, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048 "2016-05-06T06:14:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/1 "2016-05-06T06:14:04Z")

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Was going to leave this at “All righty, then”, but really, you had to double down…

> [@Race, Racism and Such](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/race-racism-and-such/753346/217):
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> Uh, what’s that supposed to me?
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> I think that **some ethnic/racial groups do have greater tendencies to selfishness, low social trust, etc.** , and that\*\* those differences are probably genetically based\*\* to some extent. **Southern Indians, for a start**. Don’t you? I don’t know if Jews are among them or not.

Jesus, that’s such a fucking racist thing to say outright, I almost took it for parody. Almost.

Wait, the way you were trumpeting rational discourse over feelings, I suppose you have some scientific evidence for this statement, right?

Right.

At least you “don’t know” if Jews have “greater tendencies to selfishness & low social trust”. It’s good to be agnostic on these things :rolleyes:

Here I thought the “I’m happy to live in a police state” was the dumbest thing you could say. “South Indians are genetically inclined to selfishness. But gee, Jews, I dunno…” sure beats that one. By a mile.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/2 "2016-05-06T06:20:56Z")

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Link to the thread in question…?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/3 "2016-05-06T07:04:05Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Link to the thread in question…?

There’s a link in the OP. Cunningly disguised as a blue arrow which takes you to the quoted post. This is secret knowledge, only the elite of the elite know it. Don’t abuse the power.

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**Author:** ![Guy\_N.Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Guy\_N.Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guy_N.Forest)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/4 "2016-05-06T08:21:37Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> … a blue arrow which takes you to the quoted post.

I just learned something I didn’t know.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/5 "2016-05-06T10:34:15Z")

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[For the blue arrow impaired.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19309075#post19309075)

Wow.

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/6 "2016-05-06T11:37:39Z")

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Hmm, Hector St. Clare. He’s the guy who prefers dictatorial regimes because they keep the little women and the colored people in line, yes? One of those reactionary Catholic extremists who denounce modernism because they’re such miserable failures at life?

I sometimes get the racist and misogynistic assholes on the board mixed up, there being so fricking many of them.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/7 "2016-05-06T11:57:13Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Was going to leave this at “All righty, then”, but really, you had to double down…

I almost missed it on first reading, but the part that makes me gape and say “He can’t be serious, right?” is the little “Don’t you?” As though he’s just stating what we’re all thinking. 😕

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/8 "2016-05-06T12:01:32Z")

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IME, bigots assume everyone is bigoted. It’s like Republican politicians and butt stuff…

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/9 "2016-05-06T12:03:04Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> I almost missed it on first reading, but the part that makes me gape and say “He can’t be serious, right?” is the little “Don’t you?” As though he’s just stating what we’re all thinking. 😕

The bigoted assholes truly believe that they are the ones with the courage to speak what we all are thinking but are too afraid to say.

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/10 "2016-05-06T12:18:21Z")

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Everyone knows Jews are just genetically predisposed to be masters of Game Theory.  
😉

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/11 "2016-05-06T12:22:59Z")

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I must admit, “South Indian” is such a weirdly _specific_ grouping to have this belief over, it makes me a little curious how the belief arose. Not “Subcontinental Asians”, not “Indians”, just “South Indians”. Any takers **Hector’s** loan officer is Tamil?

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/12 "2016-05-06T12:27:13Z")

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Isn’t Cincinnati near South India?

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/13 "2016-05-06T13:11:31Z")

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I’m glad to see that I wasn’t alone in pitting him forever ago. At least he’s consistently reprehensible.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/14 "2016-05-06T13:17:04Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Isn’t Cincinnati near South India?

Worse! South Indiana!

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/15 "2016-05-06T13:22:34Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> IME, bigots assume everyone is bigoted. It’s like Republican politicians and butt stuff…

That’s kind of a mean thing to drag “butt stuff” down like that.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/16 "2016-05-06T13:27:03Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> That’s kind of a mean thing to drag “butt stuff” down like that.

Hey, I _like_ butt stuff.

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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/17 "2016-05-06T13:35:41Z")

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To put this another way, does anyone know anyone who’s actually generous?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/18 "2016-05-06T13:54:05Z")

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> To put this another way, does anyone know anyone who’s actually generous?

Well, lots of cultures have fairly generous hospitality customs. Including [Indians](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atithi_Devo_Bhav).

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/19 "2016-05-06T13:56:30Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Isn’t Cincinnati near South India?

You’re thinking of Detroit.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hector-st-clare-racist-much/754048/20 "2016-05-06T14:08:05Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> I must admit, “South Indian” is such a weirdly _specific_ grouping to have this belief over, it makes me a little curious how the belief arose. Not “Subcontinental Asians”, not “Indians”, just “South Indians”. Any takers **Hector’s** loan officer is Tamil?

Must be the Dravidian/Indo-European split. Not that that makes sense, but it at least has some internal logic to it.

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