# Hee-haw, y'all. The 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 12, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415 "2018-11-12T17:52:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 194
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3861 "2020-03-03T14:56:50Z")
Yeah, I could see that. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3862 "2020-03-03T19:34:57Z")
It kind of seems like that’s what they are hinting at, which would be fine by me. What is this reference to Bernie being racist on Sunday about? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3863 "2020-03-04T00:10:36Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > What is this reference to Bernie being racist on Sunday about? Possibly a reference to Bernie declining to appear at the “Bloody Sunday” civil rights commemoration in Selma (while all the other Dem candidates did participate): > [@](#): > > … [John] Lewis’ appearance overshadowed the presidential candidates posturing for Alabama’s voters allegiance ahead of the state’s primary on Tuesday. All of the major candidates seeking the Democratic Party’s nomination except Bernie Sanders were expected to be in Selma over the weekend. … > **[John Lewis makes inspiring, passionate appearance at Selma remembrance of...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/01/john-lewis-makes-unexpected-appearance-selma-bloody-sunday-anniversary/4925083002/)** > > John Lewis, who was recently diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer, was not originally expected to be at the event. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3864 "2020-03-04T00:35:04Z")
Biden picks up Virginia very handily, Warren is a not close third. Sanders didnt perform as expected. Biden projected to win in NC also. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3865 "2020-03-04T02:11:17Z")
If this Biden wave tonight holds up, the decision by Klobuchar and Pete to bail out\* before Super Tuesday looks brilliant. \*Or pushed out by the DNC. whatever. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3866 "2020-03-04T02:49:50Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > EXACTLY. Two men DID something, while the third one SPOKE. > > I’m not saying Biden is perfect, or that every compromise is a step in the right direction. But you unwittingly hit the nail on the head. DO versus SPEAK. Not really - let’s consider the context in which the “extension” was made. It was made during a recovery from a massive financial crisis which was disproportionately affecting the poor. Republicans were threatening to derail the extension of unemployment benefits which people desperately needed. That’s the biggest fucking problem I have with Bernie Bros. They never want to own up to the fact that Saint Bernie voted _for_ the 1994 Crime Bill or that he voted against gun control legislation - they always have a fucking excuse for that. But they’ll claim shit like “Biden voted to extend tax cuts for billionaires.” Sorry but that’s just fucking dishonest. Bernie Bros are like Trump Bros and they know it; they just believe that they’re morally superior, which is delusional. It’s time to flush them down the fucking toilet. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3867 "2020-03-04T02:54:42Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Biden picks up Virginia very handily, Warren is a not close third. Sanders didnt perform as expected. > > Biden projected to win in NC also. Biden is winning both Mass and Maine. He might lose but he’s overperforming. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3868 "2020-03-04T03:27:52Z")
> **[Super Tuesday Results 2020: Live updates](https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/super-tuesday/)** > > Real-time 2020 Super Tuesday election results and live maps by state. POLITICO's primary coverage of 2020 races for President, Senate, House and Governors. Biden is crushing it. Warren and Bloomberg are fighting neck and neck for 3rd. And according to 538, doing better than expected everywhere but texas: > **[What Went Down On Super Tuesday](https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/super-tuesday/)** > > Latest results and updates on Super Tuesday from primary elections in California, Texas, North Carolina, Virginia, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Colorado, Tennessee, Alabama, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Utah, Maine, Vermont and American Samoa on Tuesday, March.... Sanders is winning Vt, but not doing as well as expected. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3869 "2020-03-04T03:32:38Z")
> **[What Went Down On Super Tuesday](https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/super-tuesday/)** > > Latest results and updates on Super Tuesday from primary elections in California, Texas, North Carolina, Virginia, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Colorado, Tennessee, Alabama, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Utah, Maine, Vermont and American Samoa on Tuesday, March.... And biden is doing better that expected everywhere but texas- ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3870 "2020-03-04T05:03:23Z")
As of 11pm Central time Biden has just taken the lead in Texas. No idea how long that will last. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3871 "2020-03-04T05:17:35Z")
IF Biden ends up with a delegate lead after tonight, not impossible, any thoughts on if Sanders switches his position on a plurality winner automatically getting the nom? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3872 "2020-03-04T05:18:34Z")
About as likely as Biden switching his opinion on the same subject. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3873 "2020-03-04T05:24:14Z")
Very confident Biden won’t. Sanders track record though IS to switch to whichever favors him. Not as sure he wouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3874 "2020-03-04T05:39:56Z")
As you say, he has done it before but I will just (figuratively) laugh in his face if he pulls another switcheroo. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3875 "2020-03-04T06:58:10Z")
Quite astonishing how little Bernie’s large money/organization advantage over Biden mattered. Especially in Minnesota where it appears that the Klobuchar endorsement was enough to power Biden to a win. What makes this such a perfect test of “party decides” is that usually the candidate who the party supports is also the one with the most money so it’s hard to tease out the causal effect. This was a unique case of a candidate with large party support and little money against a candidate with the opposite. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3876 "2020-03-04T07:28:18Z")
Really great point, although we can also read it slightly differently. It seems that as many of us were saying all along (and getting scoffed at by Bernie fans who insisted he was many voters’ second choice), Bernie had a ceiling and a lot of resistance to his candidacy. The majority of Democrats believe it’s a really bad idea to nominate him once they start really paying attention, but they needed some kind of guidance as to whom to vote for to stop him. Once that became clear, it became a referendum on Bernie, and Bernie lost. This will only intensify when Bloomberg exits the race (which I believe he will do very soon). One of the most stunning illustrations of this very interesting dynamic is that Biden won Massachusetts despite not visiting the state (AFAIK) and spending literally zero dollars there–meanwhile Bernie spent a lot of money there and held recent high profile rallies in Boston. Big enthusiastic rallies don’t mean lots of votes! I hope people finally are starting to understand the quiet power of the millions of unseen older voters who sit at home and watch TV most of the time, but on Election Day they get out to the polls like clockwork (or mail in their absentee ballots). ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3877 "2020-03-04T14:31:33Z")
I’d love to see an analysis on the effect of early voting – if perhaps Biden did best in states where people voted on election day, and Bernie was the beneficiary of votes mailed in last week, before the endorsement dam broke. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3878 "2020-03-04T15:21:53Z")
No link, just a BREAKING NEWS thing across the top of CNN’s website, but Bloomberg’s out. ETA: [Politico’s got it.](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485498-bloomberg-drops-out-of-2020-race) ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3879 "2020-03-04T15:24:04Z")
And he’s apparently endorsing Biden. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/3880 "2020-03-04T16:04:08Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I’d love to see an analysis on the effect of early voting – if perhaps Biden did best in states where people voted on election day, and Bernie was the beneficiary of votes mailed in last week, before the endorsement dam broke. > **[Biden Won Super Tuesday Because He Won Voters Who Decided Late](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/biden-won-super-tuesday-because-he-won-over-voters-who-decided-late/)** > > On Super Tuesday, it was better late than never for former Vice President Joe Biden. Late-deciding voters, that is. One consistent trend across the country was … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415.md?page=193) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415.md?page=195)