# Hee-haw, y'all. The 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 12, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415 "2018-11-12T17:52:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pjacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@pjacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjacks)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/21 "2018-11-13T01:32:07Z")
Richard Ojeda would win in a landslide. Too bad he has no chance in the primaries. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/22 "2018-11-13T01:43:02Z")
> [@pjacks](#): > > Richard Ojeda would win in a landslide. Too bad he has no chance in the primaries. I don’t know much about Ojeda, but I wouldn’t write him off. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/23 "2018-11-13T01:44:03Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Michael Bloomberg is reportedly considering running as a Democrat. I think Elisabeth Warren may give it a go too. > > Of course there’s Bernie Sanders. I would love to see Bloomberg run - wish he would have given it more thought in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/24 "2018-11-13T02:16:35Z")
Klobuchar 2020 ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/25 "2018-11-13T02:31:12Z")
> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#): > > As an aside, if there’s anyone left who hadn’t heard of the 2012 HBO Movie “Game Change” that detailed the process by which Schmidt/McCain landed on Palin as the running-mate, it’s beyond fascinating. For me, the most interesting part of the book _Game Change_ was about the White House meeting in late September to discuss the financial crisis. (It got little if any emphasis in the movie.) It wasn’t televised, so irrelevant to the campaign, but the author depicts Obama taking the lead at that meeting, and McCain playing the fool. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/26 "2018-11-13T02:31:44Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Klobuchar 2020 Seconded. Though I reserve the right to change my mind during the primary. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/27 "2018-11-13T02:35:08Z")
No, it’s a good thing that Ojeda would lose in the primaries. Voting for Trump, even if he regretted it afterwards, demonstrates sufficiently poor judgement that he shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near public office. What else would he do, that he would regret later? ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/28 "2018-11-13T03:20:17Z")
I could swear I read _somewhere_ (the internet!) that Hilary would NOT run in 2020. However, search results are contradictory. So what is the Straight Dope? Is Hilary In or Out for 2020? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/29 "2018-11-13T03:26:23Z")
> [@Enola\_Gay](#): > > I could swear I read _somewhere_ (the internet!) that Hilary would NOT run in 2020. However, search results are contradictory. So what is the Straight Dope? Is Hilary In or Out for 2020? She’s not in, but as of now, only \*two \*Democrats are officially in: Delaney and Ojeda. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/30 "2018-11-13T03:32:37Z")
How often have the first to announce in open fields won nominations? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/31 "2018-11-13T03:44:13Z")
> [@Enola\_Gay](#): > > I could swear I read _somewhere_ (the internet!) that Hilary would NOT run in 2020. However, search results are contradictory. So what is the Straight Dope? Is Hilary In or Out for 2020? She herself has said she isn’t running again. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/32 "2018-11-13T03:53:16Z")
[An interesting piece of Ojeda from FiveThirtyEight](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/can-a-trump-voter-from-west-virginia-win-the-2020-democratic-primary/). On why he voted for Trump: > [@](#): > > This is why I supported Donald Trump: Because I live in Logan County, West Virginia, and when the coal industry is down, everyone suffers. The coal miner has their car and everything they own for sale. The stores don’t get no business, and they shut down. Even the funeral homes are doing nothing but cremations because no one can afford a funeral. It’s horrible. I supported him because he says, ‘I’m going to put West Virginians back to work, and I’m going to put those coal miners back to work.’ On presidential voting history: > [@](#): > > Although Ojeda no longer supports the president, his voting for a Republican was nothing new. “I don’t think I’ve ever voted for a Democrat for president [in a general election]…When he talked about national party politics, Ojeda could sound a bit like Bernie Sanders, whom Ojeda supported in the 2016 Democratic primary. “The reason why the Democratic Party has fallen from grace in many cases is because they keep supporting the candidate that has the most money, but that’s not the candidate who can relate to the people.” On how he’s dealt with being a Democrat in a state that’s now pretty conservative: > [@](#): > > Ojeda is certainly not your prototypical polished national politician, the kind who floats focus-group-tested lines. He’s intense when he talks politics, in part because he’s had to deal with some particularly rough-and-tumble stuff during his short career in public office. When he ran in 2016, Ojeda was hospitalized after a brutal attack that he says was politically motivated; he was attacked from behind by a Logan County man and beaten with brass knuckles while putting a political bumper sticker on a car. > > I asked Ojeda if he was worried about more attacks as a high-profile Democrat in a state now known for its Republican bent. > > “Come from the front,” Ojeda said of his would-be foes. “If you come from the front, you’ll shit your teeth.” He’s definitely an interesting candidate. I agree that Hillary and the Democratic Party ignored a specific segment of the population in 2016 that ended up swinging the election for Trump, but it seems this guy appeals to \*that \*population while potentially ignoring everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/33 "2018-11-13T04:22:49Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Klobuchar 2020 Yeah, I think Amy Klobuchar is more likely than Swalwell, let alone the no-hopers this thread started with. Seriously, I have to laugh at a thread about a whole bunch of underqualified white men with so much white male privilege they think anyone, let alone the Democratic Party, will vote for some obscure businessman or state-level pol with little to no national profile. If you ask me, Warren/Harris seems like a good ticket to actually _win_ with. Harris/O’Rourke might be OK. Of course, you could try Warren/O’Rourke, but at that point you have to call it “Betsy/Beto.” 😃 Mike Bloomberg doesn’t really have enough of a base, in my estimation. What’s his slogan going to be? “Let’s Gentrify America!”? ---
**Author:** ![pjacks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@pjacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjacks)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/34 "2018-11-13T04:32:39Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > No, it’s a good thing that Ojeda would lose in the primaries. Voting for Trump, even if he regretted it afterwards, demonstrates sufficiently poor judgement that he shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near public office. What else would he do, that he would regret later? Funny, people said the exact same thing about Hillary voting for the Iraq War, and they were labeled purity ponies & Bernie Bros. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/35 "2018-11-13T04:48:19Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Yeah, I think Amy Klobuchar is more likely than Swalwell, let alone the no-hopers this thread started with. Seriously, I have to laugh at a thread about a whole bunch of underqualified white men with so much white male privilege… Hey now, just to clarify: Those guys I listed in the OP aren’t my wish list. They’re the actual candidates who have made their candidacy official. Klobuchar isn’t a candidate, that’s why she was left off of that specific list. As more people declare their candidacy, that list can be added to. That’s not to say Klobuchar isn’t worth discussing even before she makes a decision. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/36 "2018-11-13T05:33:02Z")
Usually, the candidates who announce this early are dark horses who are really running for Vice President on the ticket. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/37 "2018-11-13T12:12:08Z")
many of these little known people won’t even be in the race when the primary voting starts. And that can even happen to well known folks. Last time Scott Walker and Bobby Jindal quit in 2015 because they had very little support and money. A guy like Schultz can stay in the race (if he joins) since money is not a factor to him. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/38 "2018-11-13T14:31:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **Happy Lendervedder** : > > On why he voted for Trump: So, in other words, he’s seen how damaging to the area dependence on coal is, and his preferred solution is to support coal. The way to get those coal miners back to work is to close down the coal mines completely, and replace them with actual good jobs. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/39 "2018-11-13T14:43:38Z")
> [@pjacks](#): > > Richard Ojeda would win in a landslide. Too bad he has no chance in the primaries. > [@Chronos](#): > > No, it’s a good thing that Ojeda would lose in the primaries. Voting for Trump, even if he regretted it afterwards, demonstrates sufficiently poor judgement that he shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near public office. What else would he do, that he would regret later? The guy would flame out in a general election. I think he’s just going for name recognition now-- to get his name in the media. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/40 "2018-11-13T15:13:28Z")
“Vanity candidacies” have long been a thing. Run for president. Be on TV, sell some books, get your positions into the national debate, etc. The problem is when they win. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415.md?page=3)