# Hee-haw, y'all. The 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 12, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415 "2018-11-12T17:52:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1261 "2019-06-17T02:50:49Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Dammit, we need 50+ Senate seats; without that, a Dem President won’t be able to get jack shit through Congress. … Actually, we were talking about that, and this is wrong. The President has a lot of power. If the dems can get close in the Senate, say 48, the President can makes offers to or put pressure on several wavering GOP senators. “Ypur taxpayers really want that new xxxxx, dont they?” “I hear your brother in law wants to be a Ambassador”? But we need to gain a few seats. We cant lose any. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1262 "2019-06-17T09:11:50Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > BTW, trust me: I wish someone with a resume like him would come in and be taken as a top tier contender. I feel like we’re not learning from history, in what should be really obvious ways. Popular governors of decent-sized swing states are good! (See also Inslee.) Governors are Do-ers. Senators are Talk-ers. Maybe even Tweet-ers. Talk, talk, tweet, tweet, rant, rant. That’s what we’re about these days. That’s what the people want. Get with the 21st century, you … Slacker! ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1263 "2019-06-17T09:18:20Z")
Yes, of course. Mea culpa! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1264 "2019-06-17T11:06:50Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Crazy talk means I cross him off my list. Does he also support going back on the Gold standard? :rolleyes: Okay, but what if we don’t really call it “reparations”; what if we call it the Equal Opportunity Advancement Act of 2021 or something like that? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1265 "2019-06-17T11:08:32Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Governors are Do-ers. Senators are Talk-ers. Maybe even Tweet-ers. > > Talk, talk, tweet, tweet, rant, rant. That’s what we’re about these days. That’s what the people want. Get with the 21st century, you … Slacker! I mean, how else do you explain the absence of Gov. Bullock on the debate stage while candidates like…Marianne Williamson make the cut? Jee-zus, our politics are messed up. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1266 "2019-06-17T11:14:47Z")
Marianne Williamson is still in the race? Jee-zus indeed. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1267 "2019-06-17T11:27:06Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I mean, how else do you explain the absence of Gov. Bullock on the debate stage while candidates like…Marianne Williamson make the cut? Jee-zus, our politics are messed up. :eek: ETA: Any sitting governor or senator (or former VP) should automatically qualify. Then make whatever cuts you need from the rest. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1268 "2019-06-17T15:00:11Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Okay, but what if we don’t really call it “reparations”; what if we call it the Equal Opportunity Advancement Act of 2021 or something like that? Sure. Just dont give blacks the idea the govt is gonna cut them a $1000000 check, because as soon as that idea gets out, millions of scams will appears and when that check never comes, people will get mad. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1269 "2019-06-17T15:06:55Z")
Bullock joined the race late and he’s from a very small state population wise. Williamson is very well known for her books. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1270 "2019-06-17T15:23:47Z")
I literally had never heard Williamson’s name before the debate names were listed. And I watch PBS NewsHour every night. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1271 "2019-06-17T16:51:13Z")
If a sitting governor can’t hit the thresholds that even Williamson and Yang can hit then they have no business running for president. It is bar that anyone with even long shot aspirations should be able to meet, especially given the advantage of being a governor. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1272 "2019-06-17T16:53:53Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I literally had never heard Williamson’s name before the debate names were listed. And I watch PBS NewsHour every night. I literally never heard of her until this thread. I just googled her. Never heard of her books either. Nonetheless, I wish her well. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1273 "2019-06-17T19:05:51Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I literally had never heard Williamson’s name before the debate names were listed. And I watch PBS NewsHour every night. I would not expect her to get mentioned on that high brow type of news show. She is more likely to get mentioned in People magazine. Her books seem to be aimed mostly at women. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1274 "2019-06-23T17:58:31Z")
another obscure guy enters the race Joe Sestak > **[Joe Sestak Becomes Latest Democrat To Announce 2020 Presidential Run](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-sestak-2020-president_n_5d0f7c63e4b0a3941863f6cd)** > > The former Pennsylvania congressman and U.S. Navy veteran joins the crowded Democratic race. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1275 "2019-06-23T20:23:15Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > If a sitting governor can’t hit the thresholds that even Williamson and Yang can hit then they have no business running for president. > > It is bar that anyone with even long shot aspirations should be able to meet, especially given the advantage of being a governor. So name recognition is what’s most important. 😕 How many of the fifty Governors can the average American name? Kim Kardashian is 38 years old and a citizen. Is she The One? Howard Stern? Dennis Rodman? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1276 "2019-06-23T22:38:14Z")
I think one problem is the incredibly large field. There are just too many people running. And screw people like Sestak - and De Blasio for that matter. Joining a race when you already know you’ll never win is just an exercise in ego. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1277 "2019-06-24T16:57:43Z")
I just watched [Chris Cuomo interview Bill Maher.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrqWNDIOWtA) At the very end of the interview, beginning about 7:45, Maher talks about _political correctness_: > [@](#): > > I don’t think you can overestimate how much people have been choking on political correctness and hating it. There were two studies [published in _N.Y. Times_ and _Atlantic_]: … the vast majority of liberals in this country hate it: they think political correctness has gone way too far. No one likes to be living on eggshells. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1278 "2019-06-24T22:19:07Z")
And yet, the same people who complain about political correctness also complain that nobody’s polite any more. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1279 "2019-06-25T14:58:54Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > And yet, the same people who complain about political correctness also complain that nobody’s polite any more. Different things. PC has nothing to do with politeness, it’s about censoring unpleasant truth and controlling what views can be expressed and which cannot. But I digress; won’t derail the thread. Unrelated news: Warren holds big lead over Biden among young and progressive voters: [Warren has big lead among young progressives, NextGen poll finds](https://www.yahoo.com/news/warren-has-big-lead-among-young-progressives-next-gen-poll-finds-133454147.html) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1280 "2019-06-25T18:03:47Z")
Nope, political correctness is what people call politeness when they don’t want to be polite. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415.md?page=63) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415.md?page=65)