# Hee-haw, y'all. The 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 12, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415 "2018-11-12T17:52:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 67
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1321 "2019-06-27T13:40:26Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > So perhaps you have a cite that goes into the smallest amount of detail about the serches? Or not. Nah. You? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1322 "2019-06-27T13:40:45Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Gabbard dominates Drudge poll after criticizing chicken hawk Trump cabinet and supporting Iran deal: > > [https://www.drudgereport.com](https://www.drudgereport.com) I’m not familiar with Drudge or the Washington Examiner. I will assume that they are open minded and rational, and that a poll of their peers is worth noticing. Thanks for the cite. (That Drudge webpage looks like it was designed by a distracted 10 year old.) ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1323 "2019-06-27T13:41:19Z")
It’s a damn shame that Steve Bullock could not make it yet people like Bill DeBlasio (not too popular in his city), Eric Swalwell (who?), Marianne Williamson (who?) and Michael Bennet (awesome take down of Ted Cruz a few months back but that’s it) have. A Governor (executive experience) re-elected in a state Trump won (can reach out to his voters, the rust-belt), who has expanded Medicaid despite 60% of his legislature being republican (bipartisanship) and pushes for action on climate change, women’s rights and making education accessible for all (investment + freezing costs, progressive moves) is on paper the ideal candidate. All he needs is to introduce himself, but I fear in a cycle which is getting dominated by Twitter takes and who can out woke each other that a sensible candidacy like him rather than an ego/protest candidacy is futile. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1324 "2019-06-27T13:41:55Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > LOL. Pointless metric for 2 reasons: > > 1. Not a real poll. > 2. There’s very little overlap between Drudge readers and Democratic primary voters. > > FYI, the Daily Kos instant poll had Warren wildly ahead. That’s not really a real poll either, but at least it’s actual Democratic primary voters. Not pointless. Points out that Republicans are feeling the antiwar Gabbard despite harsh rhetoric against the Trump regime. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1325 "2019-06-27T13:44:15Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Not pointless. Points out that Republicans are feeling the antiwar Gabbard despite harsh rhetoric against the Trump regime. I think it’s much more likely they like Gabbard because she’s been much less critical of Trump than the others. She’s long been Breitbart and Fox’s favorite Democrat for that reason. But there’s no way to know, and no point in making any conclusions about a meaningless online “poll”. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1326 "2019-06-27T13:44:43Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If I had to pick one right now, it’d be Bernie, followed by Warren, both of whom are at the very top of my list of candidates. > > Who cares about Ryan? He’s a nobody. I’m a tiny bit worried about Gabbard because I find her past rhetoric extremely concerning, and she has a small but real segment of the Democratic electorate (unlike Ryan). I’d still easily vote for her over Trump, but she’s among my least favorite of the ‘name’ candidates (Ryan is a no-name). Yes I see they sandwich quasi-fascist Harris in your rankings. Bernie had antiwar protestors arrested. Neither Sanders or Warren seem to care about war. Perhaps you can point to a speech or two from them? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1327 "2019-06-27T13:46:10Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Perhaps you can point to a speech or two from them? If I thought there was any possibility of reasonable discussion with you, perhaps I’d go to this effort. But since you’ve made it clear that you hate progressives and progressiveness with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns, I’ll pass. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1328 "2019-06-27T13:47:42Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I think it’s much more likely they like Gabbard because she’s been much less critical of Trump than the others. She’s long been Breitbart and Fox’s favorite Democrat for that reason. > > But there’s no way to know, and no point in making any conclusions about a meaningless online “poll”. You must have a better understanding of Drudge readers than I, a Drudge reader. Cool. Thanks for your input. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1329 "2019-06-27T13:48:47Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If I thought there was any possibility of reasonable discussion with you, perhaps I’d go to this effort. But since you’ve made it clear that you hate progressives and progressiveness with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns, I’ll pass. No. You just can’t do it because they don’t talk about foreign policy. This is known. Harris made a big foreign policy speech but it was kind of scary. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1330 "2019-06-27T13:57:32Z")
Let’s simplify this. We don’t want a nominee who is antiwar in the manner WF pines for. Certainly I don’t. Therefore the proof you are demanding is a non sequitur. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1331 "2019-06-27T14:01:03Z")
So anyway, back to sane talk. How 'bout that debate last night? Looks like Gabbard is toast, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1332 "2019-06-27T14:02:29Z")
“We”? ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1333 "2019-06-27T14:11:54Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Let’s simplify this. We don’t want a nominee who is antiwar in the manner WF pines for. Certainly I don’t. Therefore the proof you are demanding is a non sequitur. You pine for an antiwar position that is kept hidden? Interesting tactic. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1334 "2019-06-27T14:15:11Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > You pine for an antiwar position that is kept hidden? Interesting tactic. When did I say that, or that I pined for any particularly antiwar position? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1335 "2019-06-27T14:17:42Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > When did I say that, or that I pined for any particularly antiwar position? 😕 Let’s make this simple for you. Do you support any type of antiwar position? If so who best represents it? If not, bye bye. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1336 "2019-06-27T14:19:20Z")
Buh-bye now! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1337 "2019-06-27T14:22:07Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Looks like Gabbard is toast, eh? If she really is the Republicans’ favorite candidate, that should enter our considerations. But I thought the opposite, having known essentially nothing about her before. She showed presence, articulateness, depth and honesty - in short, leadership. I could see any of the candidates as a good president, but I think she helped herself greatly among those who watched. I’d make the same comments about Castro, Klobuchar, and Inslee, too - they’ll be around longer than most would have predicted. Warren is a known quantity and exhibited it, but may not be able to catch on to more support than she already has, at least not at this stage. Booker said all the right things and we know he’s solid, but that manic, non-blinking intensity is a problem (yes, that’s shallow). O’Rourke showed nothing - he, Delaney, Ryan, DeBlasio need to make other plans. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1338 "2019-06-27T14:22:43Z")
Nm ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1339 "2019-06-27T14:27:31Z")
Articulateness?? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hee-haw-yall-the-2020-democratic-presidential-primary/824415/1340 "2019-06-27T14:32:38Z")
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