# Heeeeeeeeey FATTIES **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 5, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465 "2010-03-05T21:17:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/221 "2010-03-06T04:34:56Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > **Shot From Guns** , **MeanOldLady** , AND **Sleeps With Butterflies** in one thread? Be still my heart. I know, right? ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/222 "2010-03-06T04:41:57Z")
I have a few questions for the fat ass OP’er (call it muscle, call it ex-muscle, call it what you want, but it’s a fat whatever-you-want-to-call-it). 1. Do you suppose the various genetically fat animals ([ob/ob mouse](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ob/ob_mouse), [fa/fa rat](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratory_rat#Zucker_rat), etc.) simply eat too much? Cause they don’t have the will? You’d suppose wrong/wrong. For the same amount of food ingested, they gain more weight than their genetically normal cousins. And murine will, well, you probably don’t give a rat’s ass about that. 2. Do you suppose identical twins reared apart send some sort of signal to each other informing their double what to eat and how much? Maybe ‘spooky action at a distance’? 'Cause their weights will wind up almost the same, despite their environments being totally different. 3. Do you suppose a group of pairs of identical twins somehow conspire when given a strictly enforced intake of (excess) calories such that within twin pairs weight gain is tightly linked, but there’s huge variation between pairs (again, for identical calories ingested). Hey, that’s what happens. 4. Do you suppose previously thin people, svelte models such as yourself, who experience trauma or a tumor or stroke or whatever to their hypothalami (deep, at the base of the brain) and then double or triple their erstwhile weight, have simply an acquired disorder of “will”? 5. Do you suppose that the 100% prevalence of obesity in the Pima Indians (and the not quite so insanely rates in certain other genetically defined populations) have a dominant or doubly recessive gene for “no fucking will”? 6. Do you suppose there’s a bunch of other evidence I could cite (in vain, I’m sure) to try to show you that your simplified view of a complex problem is just that: simple? 7. Do you suppose that maybe, just maybe, there may be other, smart people (true, not likely to be as smart as you, but no slouches either) who know a shitload about obesity and metabolism and other ‘science stuff’ (I use that simple phrasing so as not to confuse you), and conclude that, get this, it’s not just a matter of will? Do you suppose? ---
**Author:** ![bannerrefugee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c68b51/32.png) [@bannerrefugee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bannerrefugee)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/223 "2010-03-06T04:47:50Z")
I suppose there are a bunch of overweight people who got that way because of their shitty diet and sedate life style. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/224 "2010-03-06T04:49:13Z")
> [@bannerrefugee](#): > > I suppose there are a bunch of overweight people who got that way because of their shitty diet and sedate life style. And, you’d be right. But you said “a bunch”, not all, or even most. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/225 "2010-03-06T04:52:55Z")
He Karlgauss, all you are proving is that it’s harder to lose wight for some people than others. No one is disputing that. The problem is with the fatties that insist it is impossible for them to lose weight–that their bodies defy the laws of physics so that they cannot lose weight no matter how little they eat. ---
**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/226 "2010-03-06T05:01:36Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > If you haven’t jerked off to me by now then I _am_ going to sue you, asshole You are next. right after Tonya Harding. ---
**Author:** ![Dostoyevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Dostoyevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dostoyevsky)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/227 "2010-03-06T05:05:33Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Shot From Guns_ > Tell me again about how your genetics make you fat. Not that you’re thinking this deeply but, “A man can do as he wills, but not will as he wills.” Initially you said the OP was pitting, “People who constantly whine about how they hate how they look but blame it on everything but the fact that they consume more calories than their bodies can use,” but later decided to drop the farce and pit fat people in general with this: > [@](#): > > I care because: > a) I ride public transit. Every fatty on the bus is one taking up more than their share of space. > b) I fly on planes. Every fatty on the plane is one potentially spilling over into someone’s personal space and driving up the ticket price for everyone else. > c) I have health insurance. Every fatty covered by my insurer is one driving up the premiums for everyone else on the plan, especially if they develop diabetes, and especially-especially if their lack of self-control carries over to their compliance with their condition management for the diabetes. All of which, of course, is irrelevant peradventure you’re actually, exclusively concerned with _ **whiney** _ fatties. Which brings me to the Q.E.D. of this thread: 1. People who don’t immediately fix all/any of their problems have two choices, honesty or denial… you evidently prefer them to live in the latter. 2. People have different priorities. Your question, “How the hell can you do that to yourself?” is easily answered with your own, “I’m perfectly happy with being a blunt asshole.” We all have our flaws and we all recognize them. Parody thy name is self. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/228 "2010-03-06T05:08:57Z")
> [@Claude\_Remains](#): > > You are next. right after Tonya Harding. [Tonya is about 35 years too old for you.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12087271&postcount=92) ---
**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/229 "2010-03-06T05:23:59Z")
Out of 100,000,000 sperm you were the fastest and strongest? ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/230 "2010-03-06T05:27:54Z")
> [@Claude\_Remains](#): > > You are next. right after Tonya Harding. Tonya Harding? I think I must have just stepped out of that John Cusack hot tub. ---
**Author:** ![keturah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e95f7d/32.png) [@keturah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keturah)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/231 "2010-03-06T05:34:30Z")
> [@nyctea scandiaca](#): > > Regarding your photo, **Shot From Guns** … seriously? I was surprised you chose _that_ photo to post because you certainly don’t look _thin_ in that photo. You didn’t have a better photo to illustrate your non-fatness? Quite frankly, your thighs and calves are chunky, and you can’t see the rest of your body, as your abdomen, upper body and arms are obscured due to the baggy shirt, and you can’t really see the full extent of your face because of the way your head is tilted and your hair hangs. > > Maybe you’re just bottom-heavy – a “pear” shape – like myself, but it’s dishonest to act all high-and-mighty when you’re quite soft yourself. If I am wrong, then post another shot that clearly shows your body. It is so cute, the way you get so judgemental–how many abortions have you had now? Quite frankly, you aren’t even smart enough to prevent pregnancy, **repeatedly**. Now what is it that you were saying about **shot from guns**? ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/232 "2010-03-06T05:54:59Z")
> [@Claude\_Remains](#): > > Out of 100,000,000 sperm you were the fastest and strongest? Yep! The damnedest things happen when you actually have a desire to have sex with women who are old enough to conceive. You should try it sometime. Seriously, riffing on you is like shooting fish in a barrel. But hey, I’m stuck on call this weekend so I can do this as long as you can. Please, come back with some more of your special brand of stupidity. No matter how many times I am offer you the chance to stop, you want more. I figure a few more comments and _nobody_ will ever be able to see your username and not think _pedo._ ---
**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/233 "2010-03-06T06:20:58Z")
I fucked your mother in the ass one time and now I have to deal with you till you grow up? ---
**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/234 "2010-03-06T06:31:34Z")
Try to be the better person. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/235 "2010-03-06T06:35:20Z")
> [@pricciar](#): > > Tonya Harding? I think I must have just stepped out of that John Cusack hot tub. I knew that movie was based on a true story. ---
**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/236 "2010-03-06T06:39:48Z")
Oh, why the quotation marks on “nobody”? ---
**Author:** ![statsman1982](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/237 "2010-03-06T06:43:16Z")
> [@Claude\_Remains](#): > > I fucked your mother in the ass one time and now I have to deal with you till you grow up? > [@Claude\_Remains](#): > > Try to be the better person. Is there just one person behind **Claude Remains**? 'Cause this is an odd juxtaposition. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/238 "2010-03-06T06:48:20Z")
Maybe it was a note to himself. ---
**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/239 "2010-03-06T06:56:58Z")
> [@statsman1982](#): > > Is there just one person behind **Claude Remains**? 'Cause this is an odd juxtaposition. Just one. As in the father, the son, and the holy spirit! ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/240 "2010-03-06T06:59:22Z")
> [@Lobsang](#): > > I don’t disagree, but that’s beside the point. The point being that the bag of carrots doesn’t satisfy the craving that the fat person has difficulty resisting. > [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](#): > > I think lots of people are not even quite aware of the things that they do that make them fat. They sit on their ass all day and down junk food without even quite realizing it. It’s probably a combination of stupidity and humanity. Since this is the pit and all… I weigh ten pounds more than I should because I don’t tell myself “no” enough when it comes to eating yummy sweets. However, I’d weigh a hell of a lot more if I didn’t tell myself “no” at all because I crave sugar almost all the time and could happily eat ten times as much crap if not getting fatter wasn’t a concern. When I look around the grocery store and see someone twice my weight pushing a carriage full of junk food, it makes me wonder: how much thought does your average obese person (not currently dieting) put into what they buy and eat? I can’t help but imagine that the answer is next to none… Do people get fat while thinking about what they’re eating but being unable to resist the impulse despite knowing better, or is the path to morbid obesity paved with a blissful lack of caring about calories and fat content as I imagine it to be? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465.md?page=13)