# Heeeeeeeeey FATTIES **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 5, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465 "2010-03-05T21:17:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/261 "2010-03-06T17:08:43Z")
So we’re judging/condemning people based on the content of their dreams, now? I guess we have to, after all, we control what our dreams are about… ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/262 "2010-03-06T17:09:21Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Fat people don’t \*have \*to eat \*fattening \*food every day, just like alcoholics don’t \*have \*to drink \*alcoholic \*beverages every day. Anything’s fattening if you eat too much of it. That’s often the problem for many people- me included. My cholesterol and triglycerides are fine, my blood sugar was 88 the last time I was tested, and yet, I’m overweight. If I was wholly eating a diet of “fattening foods”, I’d think my bloodwork would be out of whack. The point I was trying to make is that alcoholics and smokers could theoretically stop cold turkey and just avoid their temptations. People can’t do that with food- the best they can hope for is to regulate what and how much they eat, which is a LOT harder to do long term than just avoid something like a cigarette or alcohol. Sure, you can eat a good diet, but it’s not all about what you eat. ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/263 "2010-03-06T17:13:49Z")
This is what I love about this board. Pit shitty drivers - 2 pages. Pit poor service at a retail establishment - 3 pages. Pit genocide - 1 page. Pit anything Republican - 7 pages over about 2 months. Pit anything Democrat - 6 pages, reversed. Pit fat people or swingers (excuse me, “polyamory”) - jackpot. This has 6 pages _overnight_. I picture this message board as a naked fat man rubbing Crisco on his nipples while chatting up a 350lb hambeast wearing one of those shirts with an inappropriate slogan like “You wish you could have tits like these 15Gs!”. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/264 "2010-03-06T17:15:22Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > So we’re judging/condemning people based on the content of their dreams, now? > > I guess we have to, after all, we control what our dreams are about… Oh yes, that’s what we’re saying. You’re very astute. Plus, if you’ll notice he mentions that he says “in his fantasies” so one would have to assume that it isn’t just his sleeping dreams. I realize that knowing this will force you to find something else to be outraged by, but I have faith that you’ll find it. Perhaps sharing the contents of those dreams/fantasies in such a descriptive fashion and doubting people who tell him that they don’t share his very young tastes would be the more odd part of it all. In the thread that caused his suspension he defended his fantasies and, like I mentioned, tried to pretend that everyone has these thoughts and it is nothing to be ashamed of. Entertaining thoughts of fucking five year olds is nothing I’d be bragging about, but apparently YMMV. > [@ivn1188](#): > > I picture this message board as a naked fat man rubbing Crisco on his nipples while chatting up a 350lb hambeast wearing one of those shirts with an inappropriate slogan like “You wish you could have tits like these 15Gs!”. _vomit_ You could give Stephen King a run for his money in the horror genre! ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/265 "2010-03-06T17:19:03Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Awww you’re cute. Obsessed huh? Ever since I mentioned it he cannot seem to stop coming back for more, sometimes posting two or three times after I’ve posted just so he can keep it going. Purely entertainment for me, but I appreciate your concern. And alleged paedophilia? I’m not saying he _has_ touched a child, but he certainly wasn’t shy about describing in graphic detail what [his dreams are about](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12087271&postcount=92). > > If that is what obsession is in your neck of the woods, things must be very interesting in your household. So yes, me making a joke about it and him continually coming back for more after I’ve stopped means that I am obsessed. You, sir, are ready to hang your shingle next to [Lucy and charge five cents for your professional opinion](http://kickinthepeanuts.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/peanuts-lucy-psychiatrist.png). > > Now, stop trying to get your junior mod badge and report the posts if you’re so inclined, ya whiny bitch. What the fuck has any of this to do with fat people? You want entertainment? Then pit him. Then you two could flirt to your hearts content. ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/266 "2010-03-06T17:21:12Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > I picture this message board as a naked fat man rubbing Crisco on his nipples while chatting up a 350lb hambeast wearing one of those shirts with an inappropriate slogan like “You wish you could have tits like these 15Gs!”. Just out of curiosity, which one of the two are you? ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/267 "2010-03-06T17:39:20Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > This is what I love about this board. > > Pit shitty drivers - 2 pages. > > Pit poor service at a retail establishment - 3 pages. > > Pit genocide - 1 page. > > Pit anything Republican - 7 pages over about 2 months. > > Pit anything Democrat - 6 pages, reversed. > > Pit fat people or swingers (excuse me, “polyamory”) - jackpot. This has 6 pages _overnight_. > > I picture this message board as a naked fat man rubbing Crisco on his nipples while chatting up a 350lb hambeast wearing one of those shirts with an inappropriate slogan like “You wish you could have tits like these 15Gs!”. You’ve been to my website, haven’t you… ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/268 "2010-03-06T17:42:50Z")
> [@Khadaji](#): > > You’ve been to my website, haven’t you… So, statistically speaking and judging from the numbers, Republicans are more evil, more abhorrent than genocide? I’ve been known to get on the Repubs case, but DAMN! {Johnny Carson voice) I did not know that 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/269 "2010-03-06T17:48:53Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > What the fuck has any of this to do with fat people? > > You want entertainment? Then pit him. Then you two could flirt to your hearts content. Yeah, really. This has gone way past tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/270 "2010-03-06T17:57:37Z")
> [@Lobsang](#): > > Try being fat. You won’t see it like that. > > ETA: I bet you’d pit alcoholics because they drink too much alcohol. You’re a cock. A bit off topic, but I do blame drunkenness on drinking. I would also encourage people to replace the word “alcoholism” in all instances with “drunkenness” to just be frank about what the problem is. It’s not something in your head. It’s something in your hand. I.E., a fucking bottle. I’ve never understood why it’s useful to say people are completely helpless and can’t control it. Of course they can. Of course we live in a society that treats everything from driving like a shithead to yelling at clerks as some kind of condition. ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/271 "2010-03-06T18:12:13Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > A bit off topic, but I do blame drunkenness on drinking. I would also encourage people to replace the word “alcoholism” in all instances with “drunkenness” to just be frank about what the problem is. It’s not something in your head. It’s something in your hand. I.E., a fucking bottle. I’ve never understood why it’s useful to say people are completely helpless and can’t control it. Of course they can. > > Of course we live in a society that treats everything from driving like a shithead to yelling at clerks as some kind of condition. Trust me. Alcoholism is real. And it doesn’t fit into that category of a thing that people do and blame on a ‘condition’. There are heavy drinkers who are just dicks. And there are alcoholics. They are not the same. If anything, the problem, which I agree exists, whereby people do not take responsibility for their behavour, has made things worse for people who really can blame their way of life on a serious problem - Alcoholism. I hope you’re not suggesting that the alcoholic could stop being an alcoholic by just deciding one day to “Not be a dickhead” anymore. It really doesn’t work like that. Alcoholism can strike anyone. Nice or nasty. Intelligent or stupid. Weak or Strong. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/272 "2010-03-06T18:23:22Z")
Nobody can make a person drink. They have control over that. Telling themselves that they have a disease is just a way of saying “hell with it, I’ll drink anyway.” Now people are saying the same thing about talking on cell phones at movies. They’re addicted! They can’t stop themselves! They have a disease! They say it about beating their wives. Rageaholic! Helpless! ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/273 "2010-03-06T18:29:42Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > Nobody can make a person drink. They have control over that. Telling themselves that they have a disease is just a way of saying “hell with it, I’ll drink anyway.” Now people are saying the same thing about talking on cell phones at movies. They’re addicted! They can’t stop themselves! They have a disease! They say it about beating their wives. Rageaholic! Helpless! Are you an alcoholic? An alcoholic doesn’t have control over it. It’s not someone else making him drink. It’s the war going on inside his or her own head. If you are not an alcoholic then you are not qualified to make assumptions about how alcoholism works. Your implication that it is as easy as not bothering to drink displays an incredible naivety and lack of understanding. I would advise you to drop your line of reasoning until you know more about the subject. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/274 "2010-03-06T18:32:28Z")
Full disclosure: I’m a big mama, and I have no one to blame but myself. I actually embrace my big mama-ness, however, I love to over eat the wrong foods so much that I actually must work very hard to keep it under some semblance of control or it would be much worse…worse to the point where I didn’t feel big and sexy, but just fat and sloppy. And I wouldn’t like that. All that confessed… I get where Shots is coming from, because I hear it a LOT. A LOT from big people giving every excuse in the book for being overweight. The thing is, I do sympathize with folks to the point that I cringed a bit at the OP, because the OP is asking folks to do something that is very hard, and takes a lot of work and self reflection…to admit to weakness and personal failing on something that actually makes them feel…repulsive. I can understand how if someone is large and feels unattractive or gross…I can understand how hard it would be to admit that goddamit, they just love food. It’s not genetics, it’s not big bones, it’s not the way carbs intereacts with their fat cells, it’s just that the love of overeating the wrong foods is stronger than the will to lose the weight. Along with the whole excercise thing. I can understand the posters that are saying it is time for the whiny fatties to stop whining about the shit, cause it aint helping. But at the same time, I can sympathize with how hard it is for a fatty to say, “I don’t want to be like this, and I am still this way because I haven’t been strong enough to change it.” I know that is hard to do. Once a person learns self love, there is nothing to hard to say. You learn to express yourself freely and you learn to laugh at yourself, and you learn to take it in stride when others laugh at you. But if you don’t have that self love thing working yet, it hurts to hear the cool kids so nonchalantly make judgments. It makes folks strike out and say dumb shit to the cool kids, to protect their own egos. No one that saw that pic of Shots thinks she’s unattractive. She’s clearly fine. But folks will say things to protect their own egos. I don’t claim to speak for all fat women at all, obviously. Mostly because my own culture has helped me to embrace and revel in my own big body in a way that this society as a whole doesn’t do for overweight women. So I just imagine it must be very hard to not make excuses. But, that’s no excuse. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/275 "2010-03-06T18:32:33Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > Nobody can make a person drink. They have control over that. Telling themselves that they have a disease is just a way of saying “hell with it, I’ll drink anyway.” Now people are saying the same thing about talking on cell phones at movies. They’re addicted! They can’t stop themselves! They have a disease! They say it about beating their wives. Rageaholic! Helpless! The stupid, it burns. Alchoholism is a legitimate disease. ---
**Author:** ![Pray\_for\_peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pray\_for\_peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pray_for_peace)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/276 "2010-03-06T18:33:36Z")
Isn’t it the case that most alcoholics deny that they have a drinking problem and reject the label? They aren’t thinking, “oh, it’s OK to drink now because I have a disease.” So the name “alcoholism” is more about convincing affected people that they have a mental health problem, rather than giving the alcoholic an excuse/free pass to drink. ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/277 "2010-03-06T18:36:52Z")
> [@Sidney Evgeni Jordan](#): > > Isn’t it the case that most alcoholics deny that they have a drinking problem and reject the label? They aren’t thinking, “oh, it’s OK to drink now because I have a disease.” So the name “alcoholism” is more about convincing affected people that they have a mental health problem, rather than giving the alcoholic an excuse/free pass to drink. The word ‘alcoholic’ is what an alcoholic needs to accept he is before he can stop drinking. Before an alcoholic knows he’s an alcoholic he’ll think he’s got the same brain as everyone else so he _should_ be able to live a life that has alcohol in it. he is wrong. Once the alcoholic knows he’s an alcoholic, that’s when he knows he can’t drink _at all_. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/278 "2010-03-06T18:43:23Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > Nobody can make a person drink. They have control over that. Telling themselves that they have a disease is just a way of saying “hell with it, I’ll drink anyway.” Now people are saying the same thing about talking on cell phones at movies. They’re addicted! They can’t stop themselves! They have a disease! They say it about beating their wives. Rageaholic! Helpless! Do you really think alcoholics can wreck their lives, lose their wives, children, reputations and all their posessions simply because they don’t know all they have to do is not take a drink? Clearly the answer to addiction is simply not to indulge in whatever the addiction is. :rolleyes: People get addicted to things, whether it’s booze, drugs, cigarettes, food, gambling or whatever and they can lose everything as a result. The problem is that the physiological or psychological drive to indulge them is stronger than the ability of the addicted person to break their addiction to whatever it is they are addicted to. Solve the problem of insatiable want or need and you’ve solved the problem of addiction. Otherwise it’s a constant battle and one that some people are simply unable to win, and even among those who do life is often becomes one long, constant struggle to beat down the urge to indulge in whatever it is that they’ve been addicted to. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/279 "2010-03-06T18:45:27Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > \*I \*know I’m fuckin’ smokin’ hot, so I couldn’t care less. Then the photo in which you look like Groucho Marx in drag is an aberration. We’re cool with that. But the rock verdict is in, and fat is where’s it’s at. _Fat-bottomed girls They make the rockin’ world go round_ - Queen _Mama mama mama leave your skinny girls at home 'Cause this skinny boy wants a big fat blonde_ - The Rainmakers _She’s so skinny it’s a sin_ - The Spongetones _Big bottom, big bottom Talk about bum cakes, my girl’s got 'em Big bottom drive me out of my mind How can I leave this behind?_ - Spinal Tap _My love’s bigger than a Cadillac_ - Buddy Holly ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/280 "2010-03-06T18:51:15Z")
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