# Heeeeeeeeey FATTIES **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 5, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465 "2010-03-05T21:17:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/401 "2010-03-08T01:39:11Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Yes, because **Una** and I have spent most of this thread trying to convince everyone how hot we are. Thank goodness you are here to tell us that you don’t think we are hot. See, you’re not completely as useless as you seem. > > Isn’t it about time for the nurse to come in and tighten your straps back up again and shut down your internet for the night? Now, before you go favor us all with a story about how much better life was in the good old days and how milk used to be twenty five cents a gallon. Nah, I’m about to crack open a bottle of scotch and go watch the Oscar pregame show. After that I may go pick up a couple of strippers and relive the good old days, being nowhere near as infirm as you seem to think. But first, a couple of quick comments: 1. I never said you tried to convince everyone how hot you are…or should I say not in this thread anyway. 2. Having never seen a photo of **Una** I have no idea if she’s hot or not. The comment was aimed at you. > [@Una Persson](#): > > You just don’t understand how hard it is to try to insert a tasseled butt plug…joke, and not have it look too contrived. One can only imagine. If I were you I’d just stick with the actual buttplug. I wouldn’t even mind a photo. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/402 "2010-03-08T01:49:20Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > The comment was aimed at you. Ack, you wound me! Cranky old men on the internet is a group every girl wants to attract. O cruel fate, why doth thou taunt me? ---
**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/403 "2010-03-08T02:48:01Z")
Shit, I thought **Shot** was a man in drag in the Halloween picture. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/404 "2010-03-08T04:09:02Z")
What fucking kills me is the talk show radio argument that, ‘African-Americans make better athletes because they genetically have less body fat’. ---
**Author:** ![EVIL\_COW\_PIE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@EVIL\_COW\_PIE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EVIL_COW_PIE)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/405 "2010-03-08T06:47:57Z")
> [@fisha](#): > > Shit, I thought **Shot** was a man in drag in the Halloween picture. Bullshit. She’s fucking hot! I’m a girl, but I would do her! ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/406 "2010-03-08T06:57:52Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Oops. I decided to take a look at our charming OP’s profile to find out if she’s Shot Her Wad here in this thread or simply been offline, and while there I found [this pic](http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/487/img0021degreemirroredsmkw6.jpg) from the homepage in her profile. > > Don’t you just hate people who don’t care enough about their own hair to take care of it? > > Or who don’t have any friends to take a photo of them with their new diploma and have to resort to shooting it themselves in the bathroom next to a shower curtain and mouldering towel? > > Or who are [“totally fucking broke”](http://ishokunaeppy.livejournal.com/). (That diploma hasn’t done you much good so far, has it?) > > No wonder this woman has such a bad attitude! Maybe we should start being nicer to her after all. > > Nah! She was probably a bitch already. Besides, everybody knows all you have to do to make money is to do _some kind of fucking work_, even if it’s only cleaning windows. (Hey, it was good enough for Van Morrison.) > > And besides, it’s the Pit. I can be an asshole. > > Disclaimer: This post is not to be construed as a slam against people who may genuinely find themselves friendless or who may be out of money. It’s satire, an ironic observation made toward someone who has an ugly attitude toward people who struggle with their weight and who knows all about how they should be able to lose it, yet still can’t seem figure out how to make a buck despite a diploma and having been out of work for a year. BTW…The URL is dated back in 07…now I’m not good in math, but that’s AT LEAST 2 years ago (dunno when it was taken) I am quite sure she has gotten a job since then, given she’s already said that upthread. Might wanna check your facts before you insult. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/407 "2010-03-08T07:12:09Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Wait, that was her leg? Jesus, I thought she was wearing khakis. I need to go look at that picture again… And provide one of your own, I’m thinking, so we can all admire \*your \*beauty. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/408 "2010-03-08T08:10:31Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > BTW…The URL is dated back in 07…now I’m not good in math, but that’s AT LEAST 2 years ago (dunno when it was taken) I am quite sure she has gotten a job since then, given she’s already said that upthread. > > Might wanna check your facts before you insult. Oops. Yeah, you’re right. I saw the Feb. 19th and thought it was a recent post. My bad. Still, she was out of work for a year and “fucking broke” at the time so the main point still stands. 😉 Plus you need to understand that there is longstanding mutual animus between **Shot From Guns** and your truly. She’s just as quick to bust my ass when she can. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/409 "2010-03-08T09:41:06Z")
I think **Shot From Guns** is cool. I thought she was male till I saw the photo, I don’t care what the photo looks like, she’s female, has attitude and a heart beat, that’s good enough for me. Anyway, she doesn’t have fat legs, she has PHAT legs, awesome. Edit: I also fully support her OP. Countries experiencing famine don’t have fat people. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/410 "2010-03-08T12:46:09Z")
> [@Richard\_Pearse](#): > > I also fully support her OP. Countries experiencing famine don’t have fat people. Yeah, so? Are you saying that proves ‘fat people’ would lose their excess weight if they really tried? If they really wanted to? That it’s just a matter of will power? [I agree that taking in fewer calories leads to weight loss. But that doesn’t mean obesity is caused by a voluntary decision to eat to excess.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12195817&postcount=332) I think this is a crucial point since, if for no other reason, it (should) remove the ‘holier-than-thou’ attitude about obesity which seems to be as pervasive here as it is IRL. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/411 "2010-03-08T12:56:04Z")
> [@Richard\_Pearse](#): > > I think **Shot From Guns** is cool. I thought she was male till I saw the photo, I don’t care what the photo looks like, she’s female, has attitude and a heart beat, that’s good enough for me. Anyway, she doesn’t have fat legs, she has PHAT legs, awesome. **Shot From Guns** is basically the female **Dio**. Half the time, she says something that makes you think… “This asshole just doesn’t get it” And the other half, she says something that makes you think… “Hell yes! This person is a genius and everyone should listen to them!” As this is a fat thread on the SDMB, I am not stupid enough to say where this thread falls on the scale. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/412 "2010-03-08T13:08:36Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > What fucking kills me is the talk show radio argument that, ‘African-Americans make better athletes because they genetically have less body fat’. So true. You never see fat black people. ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/413 "2010-03-08T13:31:45Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > For your viewing pleasure, [here’s a picture of me](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11735960&postcount=15) from Halloween. I’d hit it. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/414 "2010-03-08T13:54:37Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > Yeah, so? Are you saying that proves ‘fat people’ would lose their excess weight if they really tried? If they really wanted to? That it’s just a matter of will power? No, I say that fat people will lose weight if they eat less (which you apparently agree with.) How they achieve that is their problem, but don’t try and say that you’ve tried eating less and it didn’t work, or that you eat less and you still put on weight. If that’s the case then you were still eating too much, it’s not that “eating less” didn’t work, it’s that you didn’t do it properly. If it’s physically impossible for these people to lose weight then why are Australians and Americans so fat but the British aren’t? It’s all the same genetic stock, the difference is lifestyle, and when it comes to lifestyle you’re talking about choices and decisions. “I don’t want to walk up these stairs because there is an elevator I can use instead”, “I don’t want to walk to the shop because it takes too long”, “I like eating food while browsing the net because it feels nice and comfy”, “I’m going to eat McDonalds instead of making my own more healthy food because I can’t be fucked cooking for myself.” Lazy. Lazy. Lazy. Sedentary lifestyle. It’s all too difficult. Bla bla bla. There is only one person who has any chance of controlling this, and that’s you (general you.) Now I’m no great specimen myself, but at least I realise it’s because I like eating food and I find it difficult to motivate myself to do exercise for its own sake. It’s all me, no one else is responsible for what I look like. Personally I think it’s related to a general lack of personal responsibility in society. If something goes wrong there must be someone or something to blame. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/415 "2010-03-08T14:02:27Z")
> [@Richard\_Pearse](#): > > “I’m going to eat McDonalds instead of making my own more healthy food because I can’t be fucked cooking for myself.” Lazy. Lazy. Lazy. Sedentary lifestyle. It’s all too difficult. Bla bla bla. I won’t disagree with the overall point that weight gain is caused by eating too much/not exercising enough. But there is a common perception that the difference is between eating a reasonably healthy diet, and going to McDonald’s and slamming back cheeseburgers all day long. Really, all it takes to gain significant weight over a long period of time is maybe an extra serving or two of lunch or dinner every day. When I was calorie-counting, I was quite surprised to find that an amount of food I had previously considered appropriate and healthy was actually way too many calories for what I should be eating. And it’s not that I was eating way past when I stopped being hungry, either. Anyway, I think that’s where a lot of the disconnect comes from in people who say, “I eat a healthy diet and I’m still gaining weight” or whatever. It’s not necessarily that they’re lying and going to Burger King to get a triple Whopper with extra lard every day for lunch (although I guess they could be). It’s that they don’t realize that the extra couple tablespoons of salad dressing and the cheese and the olives on their nominally healthy lunchtime salad are pushing them over their calorie requirement for the day. Or whatever. I can’t believe I’m trying to make a reasonable post on page 9 of a “hey fatties” thread on the SDMB. It must be Monday or something. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/416 "2010-03-08T14:02:31Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > BTW…The URL is dated back in 07…now I’m not good in math, but that’s AT LEAST 2 years ago (dunno when it was taken) I am quite sure she has gotten a job since then, given she’s already said that upthread. > > Might wanna check your facts before you insult. Regardless, that picture with the diploma is not one of someone who is “fucking hot”. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/417 "2010-03-08T14:16:38Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > Regardless, that picture with the diploma is not one of someone who is “fucking hot”. So when are you posting your picture for our viewing pleasure? The OP may have been a touch brusque with her OP but at least she has the balls to put her picture out there. You seem to delight in commenting on it - I assume your picture will be up shortly for us to enjoy. Or can you dish out the shit, but can’t take it? ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/418 "2010-03-08T14:22:50Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > So when are you posting your picture for our viewing pleasure? The OP may have been a touch brusque with her OP but at least she has the balls to put her picture out there. You seem to delight in commenting on it - I assume your picture will be up shortly for us to enjoy. Or can you dish out the shit, but can’t take it? I’m not making any claims about my alleged hotness. I’m a middle aged, overweight man who’s not going to make anyone’s “hot” list. If someone posts on a message board tha they’re “fucking hot” then they should be prepared for the criticism when someone disagrees. Note that I didn’t say she was ugly or unattractive. Not that my opinion mattrers, except to me. ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/419 "2010-03-08T14:26:54Z")
> [@Richard\_Pearse](#): > > If it’s physically impossible for these people to lose weight then why are Australians and Americans so fat but the British aren’t? Sorry, buddy, but Brits are fat too: [http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/obesity-uk-we-are-getting-as-fat-as-americans-401193.html](http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/obesity-uk-we-are-getting-as-fat-as-americans-401193.html) ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/420 "2010-03-08T14:27:25Z")
Look, one of the biggest problems some of us on the SDMB have about the obesity issue is that there is a subgroup of people on here which have in the past argued that even if they consume “only 400 calories per day”, they somehow keep gaining weight. And when you try to explain to them about the First Law and basal metabolic rate and so forth they start throwing out pseudo-scientific bullshit gleaned from “fat apologist” blogs about “starvation mode” etc., still not realizing that what they’re saying is impossible. IIRC there was a big fight early in this board’s history over someone who claimed they ate NOTHING, as in 0 calories, for 2 weeks, and gained weight, and they had a “doctor verify” it. All couched in the same pseudo-scientific wiggle-waggle that had heads nodding on this board “oh yeah sister, I’ve had the same thing happen.” :rolleyes: And when someone posts something like that, I don’t see a lot of folks calling them on it. And then there’s the issue of being able to judge portion sizes and calories, because people are absolutely rotten at it. Even I am - I’ve done self-experiments where I found that I misjudged calories by about 20-25% (under) over a multi-week period. I posted a collection of citations a couple of times on this message board showing tests where overweight people claimed they were “only eating X calories per day!” but really were eating 1.5X or even 2X per day." And you know what it got me? I was flamed mercilessly in the “friendlocked” Livejournals of several “funny and kewl BBW Dopers”, one of them threatened to use her “connections” to find out where I lived, and her Doper boyfriend (who “loved” her so much, but was cheating with another BBW Doper at the time, oh, the irony…) threatened to “kill” me. Kill me for the “crime” of posting a list of citations proving people are crap at estimating portion sizes and calories and “accusing (his) girlfriend of lying.” Think about that for a second. Sound like a sane person? One of the parties still posts here. They might even be in this very thread. _That’s_ the sort of mentality on the Dope that some people object to - not just the denial of fact, but the vehement and violent denial of fact. I won’t even talk to the apologists any more; why go through the harassment? The way I’ve been treated, I have nothing but contempt for their fantasy world of denial, and most if not all of them are on my exceedingly lengthy Ignore list. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465.md?page=22)