# Heeeeeeeeey FATTIES

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 5, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465 "2010-03-05T21:17:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/441 "2010-03-08T15:58:24Z")

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More dogshit on the rug. Start a thread outside The Pit that goes on for even one whole page. Ideally, it should be one that shows you actually possess some knowledge or have some talent that others will find interesting. Prove that you aren’t a useless, stinking shitsmear. I fucking dare you, **tacoloco**.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/442 "2010-03-08T16:00:03Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> Deja vu all over again.
> 
> Killer, dude, killer.

Why are you holding back, hardcore? Let 'em rip with “you must like the Power Rangers” level flames. I know you got it in you to do more than all this “no u” stuff. My god, you even actually typed “no u”. Quit hiding your flames under a bushel.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/443 "2010-03-08T16:00:10Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> So then… is anyone going to offer up an excuse for what SFG’s attractiveness, thinness, or alleged lack thereof, have to do with her claim that obese people whining, and pretending like their weight problem is due to magic fat faeries in their genes are vapid and annoying? Well, other than, “She was mean, and hurt our feelings, so we made fun of her looks!”

Nothing. But she opened the door to that particular kind of criticism.

But to go back to the original point, most fat people don’t make excuses. Some fat people do, I assume, and those people probably make the most noise so they get  
noticed.

I’m overweight. And I don’t complain, I just continue to work on losing weight.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/444 "2010-03-08T16:05:07Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> So then… is anyone going to offer up an excuse for what SFG’s attractiveness…"

Honestly, when people throw troll-flavored hateraide, there’s no sense in crying when the inevitable splash back occurs.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/445 "2010-03-08T16:09:18Z")

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Can the mods do something about stopping **tacobueno** from posting in this thread?

I would like to know _why_ her comments open her to criticism. Why does someone need to be model-thin or flawlessly beautiful to lament the epic bullshit that is “Bad genes. Oh well, determined to be fat indefinitely” that some people offer up? Stating that these excuses are insufficient does not equal “I am the most beautiful person ever,” nor does it equal “I am five times more fit than any personal trainer you’ve ever seen.” What it equals is “I am sick and goddamned tired of this false notion I often here extolled from the obese that their genes have locked them in fat prison, and not what they’ve been earing.”

And where did this idea that she is bashing all fat people come from. There was a specific line of excuses that she was pitting here. I know, I know, people are reading in between the lines here, and are gleaning that what she secretly meant is “I hate fat people,” but I’ll go ahead and interpret her statements as what they were, which is she is annoyed by whiny, self-deluded fat people.

Edit: Oh, because the OP contained “troll-flavored hateraide”? I don’t agree, but I like that term, and would agree if I deemed it troll-flavored hateraide. I say she opened herself to criticism because some people get their feelings hurt when you dare suggest (_GASP!_) that their obesity is not magic.

Edit again: So maybe it was troll-flavored considering her audience…

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/446 "2010-03-08T16:10:36Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> Wait a minute, here. There’s a _tripple_ Whopper?
> 
> I’m going to BK for lunch!

Make sure you order it with the extra lard. Mmmm… lard.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/447 "2010-03-08T16:19:02Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Can the mods do something about stopping **tacobueno** from posting in this thread?

Are you always a complete fucking bitch or just to me?

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> I would like to know _why_ her comments open her to criticism. Why does someone need to be model-thin or flawlessly beautiful to lament the epic bullshit that is "Bad genes.

Oh FFS. Stop being thick. She said “I’m fucking hot”. Anyone who makes a comment like that should expect to get flak.

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> I’ll go ahead and interpret her statements as what they were, which is she is annoyed by whiny, self-deluded fat people out

I suggest you read the whole thread and find the part where she “cares” because she flies and takes public transport. If all she cared about were the whiners, then she wouldn’t have posted that.

So either she just hates fat people or she’s trolling.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/448 "2010-03-08T16:21:26Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> Make sure you order it with the extra lard. Mmmm… lard.

Om nom nom nom. I’m there. If you’re waitin’ on me, you’re backin’ up 🙂

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/449 "2010-03-08T16:23:28Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> And where did this idea that she is bashing all fat people come from. There was a specific line of excuses that she was pitting here. I know, I know, people are reading in between the lines here, and are gleaning that what she secretly meant is “I hate fat people,” but I’ll go ahead and interpret her statements as what they were, which is she is annoyed by whiny, self-deluded fat people.

I got that. I just don’t understand why anyone is so annoyed that some folks are deluded.

Again, seems obvious to me why the truly overweight are also likely to be somewhat deluded about their consumption of food: in some cases, mental/emotional issues about food is why they got to be so overweight in the first place.

Being annoyed by it seems sorta pointless, even a bit on the mean side. Like making fun of the depressed who really have nothing very much actually wrong with them or their lives. If only they would snap outta it …

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/450 "2010-03-08T16:25:43Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> I would like to know _why_ her comments open her to criticism. Why does someone need to be model-thin or flawlessly beautiful to lament the epic bullshit that is “Bad genes. Oh well, determined to be fat indefinitely” that some people offer up?

You don’t have to be model thin, but since only a few posters in this trainwreck have even suggested that it does, I don’t see why “OMG! she’s being attacked for her appearance!!!” is a point that needs to be harped upon.

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> ]And where did this idea that she is bashing all fat people come from. There was a specific line of excuses that she was pitting here.

It might have something to do with the “Heeeeey FATTIES” thread title. If she was looking for rational discourse, she should have posted this in GD. She posted it in the Pit, and oh noes! mean people talked about her looks!!! If she didn’t want that to happen, she should have kept her picture to herself instead of falling for the okeydoke.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/451 "2010-03-08T16:27:48Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> It might have something to do with the “Heeeeey FATTIES” thread title. If she was looking for rational discourse, she should have posted this in GD. She posted it in the Pit, and oh noes! mean people talked about her looks!!! If she didn’t want that to happen, she should have kept her picture to herself instead of falling for the okeydoke.

Agreed. IMO, Guns got exactly the reaction she wanted.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/452 "2010-03-08T16:33:42Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> You’ll be carrying that weight a long time.

Huh??? What weight? If anything I have the opposite “problem”.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/453 "2010-03-08T16:41:55Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> I suggest you read the whole thread and find the part where she “cares” because she flies and takes public transport. If all she cared about were the whiners, then she wouldn’t have posted that.
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> So either she just hates fat people or she’s trolling.

I read it, but thanks for the suggestion. My take is she is making the following claims: Obesity is a problem. There are some people, much to my extreme aggravation, who seem to delude themselves into thinking this problem is unsolvable. It would please me greatly if this would stop.

> [@Malthus](#):
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> I got that. I just don’t understand why anyone is so annoyed that some folks are deluded.

Do you always feel this way about pit thread grievances? A lot of people get worked up over things that make not one whit of a difference to me, and I would assume the same is true of you. So what?

> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> You don’t have to be model thin, but since only a few posters in this trainwreck have even suggested that it does, I don’t see why “OMG! she’s being attacked for her appearance!!!” is a point that needs to be harped upon.

I don’t really care that people got all up in her shit about the way she looks, and I’m not even saying she’s being attacked for her appearance. I am saying that several posters have come in with their Z-Snaps, “Oh no this bitch didn’t come in here talkin’ about fatties, when she’s fat herself,” even though she’s not fat. At all. What level of thinness do they expect? In every other thread, every person who can get around the grocery store without a Rascal is immediately offered a “sammich,” but now SFG qualifies as fat… because she hurt people’s feelings with her meanness?

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> It might have something to do with the “Heeeeey FATTIES” thread title. If she was looking for rational discourse, she should have posted this in GD. She posted it in the Pit, and oh noes! mean people talked about her looks!!! If she didn’t want that to happen, she should have kept her picture to herself instead of falling for the okeydoke.

I’m not her, but my guess is she posted it in the Pit because she was annoyed by it at the time she wrote this thread.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/454 "2010-03-08T16:57:07Z")

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God, this thread is the funniest fucking thing ever.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/455 "2010-03-08T16:58:42Z")

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I don’t know if there’s any point to this, but I’m going to post it anyway. Not for pity, not for accolades, not because I’m a glutton for punishment, but because I’m hoping that some of you genetically-gifted skinny fuckers will get a glimpse at what being a fat sack of crap like myself is all about.

Here’s some background: I’ve been big all my life. I was six feet tall by the time I was in the third grade. I grew so fast that the small bones in my feet couldn’t keep up, and I had a painful limp in elementary school. The lowest weight I can ever remember being was 168 pounds, before I entered high school. The lowest weight I can remember being in high school was 232 pounds, which I attained after six months of drinking raw eggs for breakfast, skipping lunch to work out in the school weight room, eating half of a normal dinner, and going to aikido classes at night. In short, my body will never be “small” or “skinny”.

Here’s the situation today: I’ve crested 400 pounds. And it’s totally my own damn fault. I eat shitty food, I work at a very sedentary job, and I commute, which is just more sitting. I don’t have the most active lifestyle in the world. So now I find myself at a crossroads. I have to make myself healthier, and just eating better isn’t going to do it alone, I need to get active. But in order to do that, I need time, and the only place I can take time from is from my family.

Eating right will be fine; it just takes willpower, and I’ve done it before, I can do it again. What sucks is that I’m already waking up at 5:30 to get showered, cleaned up for work, pack a snack for my three-year-old little girl, the greatest thing in my life, feed her breakfast, and get us out the door to get her to her school between 7:30 and 8:00. Then I drive another 40 minutes to my job, to start work by 8:30. The work day ends at 5:00, when I drive another 40 minutes back into town, and most days I pick my little girl up from my parents’ house across town. So by the time I get her and get home, it’s about 6:30. Already I’ve spent more than 12 hours of the day prepping for work, getting there, working, and getting home. I now have about two and a half hours to spend some time with my family, give the little one a bath, feed her something, and have her in bed by 9:00. Bedtime, of course, means Daddy sits by her bedside, reads three books, sings “The Fox Song”, and holds her little hand until she falls asleep. And then it’s 9:45, and my time is actually my own.

And now I’ve reached the point, due to my own shitty decisions, where I have to decide whether I’m going to give up time with my family to make myself healthy, or just risk having a heart attack before I’m 40. No one should have to make a decision like this, do you understand? It fucking sucks, far more than getting called a “fatty”. I have to give up the few hours a day that I have with my little girl because unlike you gifted douchebags, I don’t have the luxury of “I can just eat anything I want, tee hee!” because I didn’t win the genetic lottery.

I made a lot of bad choices to get where I am, but plenty of people who make the same choices don’t have to deal with the same consequences, and it pisses me off that those people feel free to be jerks about it.

Go ahead and laugh and say, “Put down the cruller, tubby!” if it makes you feel superior. You’ll never have to make the kind of choice I’m making today. For that, I hope you realize that you are in fact very, very lucky, and should be thankful that life dealt you some good cards. And hey, as long as we’re posting pictures of ourselves, [here you go](http://pics.livejournal.com/maxtorque/pic/0001btzw), have a good laugh. That’s what a 400 pound guy looks like. Go ahead, tear me to shreds, just be grateful that you’re not the one who has to give up playtime with that incredible little kid.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/456 "2010-03-08T16:59:42Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> God, this thread is the funniest fucking thing ever.

Come for a sip of the troll flavored hateraid…stay for the chuckles!

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/457 "2010-03-08T16:59:49Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Do you always feel this way about pit thread grievances? A lot of people get worked up over things that make not one whit of a difference to me, and I would assume the same is true of you. So what?

Well, often pit grievances are about someone being mean to the _griever_, which is a lot easier to understand. It just strikes me as a bit odd to get worked about about other people who are effectively harming _themselves_.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/458 "2010-03-08T17:04:22Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> I’m not her, but my guess is she posted it in the Pit because she was annoyed by it at the time she wrote this thread.

I got the sense that she just saw some purty slides at work that reinforced her belief that fat folks got that way because of laziness and greed, and she, in the tradition of all self-righteous proselityzers, wanted to beat some people over the head with facts everyone knows already.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/459 "2010-03-08T17:07:26Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> Agreed. IMO, Guns got exactly the reaction she wanted.

I suspect, having witnessed these threads, she would have gotten the reaction regardless, she just cut to the chase and took any potential for rationality out in her title. But the chance of rationality in a topic like this is somewhat slimmer than a royal flush anyway.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/460 "2010-03-08T17:19:25Z")

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> [@Max\_Torque](#):
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> I have to give up the few hours a day that I have with my little girl because unlike you gifted douchebags, I don’t have the luxury of “I can just eat anything I want, tee hee!” because I didn’t win the genetic lottery.

Genetic lottery? That’s the exact opposite of the point, which is that there are some whiners out there who like to pretend the thinness of some and obesity of others is due to drawing of straws. It’s really not. The claim is most people are overweight because of what you call “shitty decisions,” and most who are of a healthty weight are so due to lack of shitty decisions.

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> I made a lot of bad choices to get where I am, but plenty of people who make the same choices don’t have to deal with the same consequences, and it pisses me off that those people feel free to be jerks about it.

So most thin people have made similar choices to yours, but are thin because they’re lucky? Or are you pointing to some rare genetic freak who can eat anything, portion control be damned, and still be rail-thin? I haven’t met people like this who are not 15 year old boys.

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> Go ahead and laugh and say, “Put down the cruller, tubby!” if it makes you feel superior.

Good lords, do you really feel you are being attacked by someone who feels “superior” to you every time someone points out that obesity, largely, is due to poor decisions? **SFG** ’s rant aside, I mean in general. Or do you only feel this way when that someone is name-calling?

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