# Heeeeeeeeey FATTIES **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 5, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465 "2010-03-05T21:17:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/601 "2010-03-10T17:17:29Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > or don’t want to have their brand seen on overweight bodies. Some say fashion designers are in concert with the diet industry. Thus, mumus. This reminds me of a story. I love Seven jeans. They are cut bigger in the hip, butt and thighs, a bit smaller in the waist. I couldn’t have them though, because I am big and these jeans were for thin women. Well! Turns out, they decided to make a line for Lane Bryant, I store that I usually loathe, but I love them for having these jeans in big sizes. The second my best friend found out I had a pair, she said, “Great. Now I can’t buy Sevens anymore. They are fat girl jeans!” So, I wouldn’t be surprised that fashion designers don’t want to see their brand on big women. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/602 "2010-03-10T17:17:55Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > The way I look at it there is nothing that I can do make them change without causing more harm than good. All I can do is to continue to model good behavior, tell them what I do to stay thin when _asked_, and encourage them when they make steps in the right direction. > > Is there another course of action that someone recommends? I ask because the concensus in this thread seems to be that us thin folks need to stop coddling the fatties around us and start telling it like it is. But I’m having a real hard time seeing what this would look like in civil society, though. As opposed to an anoynomous message board. I’ve never said “Lose weight, fattie” to anyone, but when people complain about their weight to me, I ask them what they’re doing to correct it. This usually leads to the person not complaining about their weight to me anymore. ---
**Author:** ![grayhairedmomma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/47e85d/32.png) [@grayhairedmomma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grayhairedmomma)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/603 "2010-03-10T17:22:55Z")
> [@Max\_Torque](#): > > And this is what it’s going to be, I think: we’re looking right now at getting a family pass to one of the bigger health clubs in town. We’ll be able to go swimming with the little Torqueling, do karate, what have you, together. I’d rather exercise at home, but space is already at a premium, and treadmills and such that are sturdy enough to withstand my godawful girth cost a pretty penny. For the record, I do chase her around her gymnastics class (note the leotard she’s wearing in that picture I posted earlier), but for her age group, that’s only once a week. I don’t want to preach to you, but I want to say one more thing. It is great to have the option of swimming (or just playing in a heated pool in the middle of winter), taking various classes and taking advantage of facilities that you don’t have at home. However, as a time strapped parent, I have never found lasting success in relying on the need to travel to a separate location to encourage my family’s fitness on a day-to-day basis. Putting a healthy meal in the crockpot in the morning or a programmable food steamer (this [3 compartment side-by-side one](http://www.amazon.com/Richard-Simmons-EST7-Steam-Heat-Electronic/dp/B000JJMER4)is great) and allowing yourself and your child a healthy snack on your commute home would allow you and family to get in an early evening walk. It is also a great, great stress reliever. There is no rushing to get food on the table, and if you know dinner is waiting for you and will be tasty, it is so very easy to bypass the fast food places. (Plus if you’re cheap like me, you’ll be like “hell no, I’m not paying an extra $20 for dinner when there is perfectly good food at home!”) For my family, the best time to take our walk is before eating dinner. We grab a granola bar or some grapes and take a stroll around the block while dinner finishes. As a parent, this is a great time to listen to your child talk about their day while it’s still fresh in their mind, it’s a great way for everyone to destress a little bit and it’s exercise and fresh air (which helps everyone sleep better, and a good night’s sleep is the number one thing that helps to control my eating impulses during the day). But the two most important benefits, I’ve found, is that it prevents the inertia that is so easy to succumb to once you’ve gotten home and have a full belly, plus the late snack & exercise helps to curb the appetite and enable you to make better decisions at dinner. Granted, between girl scouts, the pta, various school activities and other random errands that pop-up, we don’t get to do this every day. But it really, really helps when we do. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/604 "2010-03-10T17:24:01Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > The second my best friend found out I had a pair, she said, “Great. Now I can’t buy Sevens anymore. They are fat girl jeans!” Sounds like you’ve got awesome friends. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/605 "2010-03-10T17:31:30Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > Sounds like you’ve got awesome friends. Yep! Sure do. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/606 "2010-03-10T17:35:29Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > I’ve never said “Lose weight, fattie” to anyone, but when people complain about their weight to me, I ask them what they’re doing to correct it. This usually leads to the person not complaining about their weight to me anymore. Which takes care of the annoyance of hearing someone complain but not doing anything about it, but doesn’t rid of us of the Fatty Problem. Which I thought was the main gripe being discussed. ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/607 "2010-03-10T17:44:03Z")
When I’m back home with my friends, I eat and drink the same things my buddies do - like I said, I love pub grub, and I love beer (and by beer, I do not mean MGD/Bud/Coors/other random pisswater). Invariably someone will ask me ‘what my secret is’ to staying thin. And they are very interested in hearing what that secret is - everyone will hush up a bit, and lean in to hear. And when I mention that there is no secret, it’s just eating in moderate portions and getting in a bit of exercise, everyones’ eyes start to glaze over. Next thing you know people are talking about how ‘they had membership at a gym once but it was too crowded, and you know how hard it is to find the time, and my back pain really keeps me from doing as much as I’d like to’ etc etc etc. I swear these conversations are liked recorded and replayed, word-for-word… I second **grayhairedmomma** - having to go to another location to exercise, either before or after work, simply isn’t going to work for 99% of people. In fact, that’s how gyms make their money: they KNOW that people will sign up and not show up after three months. If even 50% of all members showed up even three times a week, I suspect gyms would be so crowded there would be waiting lines to get into the changing rooms. Walks are great; if you have a dog, family walks while taking the dog out is a perfect two birds/one stone solution. If you’re more of an in-house family, get a Wii and Wii Fit - it’ll be cheaper than the gym membership very quickly, and its a lot of fun. No, you won’t burn off loads and loads of sweat, but you -will- move around, kids love it, and you don’t have to leave your living room when it’s raining outside. Probably not a real family-friendly solution, but indoor bike trainers are great. I have a [Computrainer](http://www.racermateinc.com/), which is a bit spendy but built like a tank, and there are loads of alternatives out there. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/608 "2010-03-10T18:04:35Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > And when I mention that there is no secret, it’s just eating in moderate portions and getting in a bit of exercise, everyones’ eyes start to glaze over. Next thing you know people are talking about how ‘they had membership at a gym once but it was too crowded, and you know how hard it is to find the time, and my back pain really keeps me from doing as much as I’d like to’ etc etc etc. > > I swear these conversations are liked recorded and replayed, word-for-word… > > I second **grayhairedmomma** - having to go to another location to exercise, either before or after work, simply isn’t going to work for 99% of people. Just curious, when your friends start coming out with the excuses for why they couldn’t keep up with the gym, do you elaborate on the non-gym alternatives like you did in the second half of your post? Or do you just throw up your hands and assume they wouldn’t be interested in hearing about other strategies? A lot of time, all someone is looking for a reassurance that they can do it in a manageable fashion. Had a conversation with my sister a while ago, when she was feeling bad because she wanted to get in shape but clearly felt overwhelmed by the prospect. She asked me about what I do and when I told her I run at the gym ~ 3 miles three times a week, she said with dismay that that would be too hard for her. Instead of shaking my head at her, I assured her that she didn’t have to do the same thing as me to get the same level of fitness. If she walked the same distance as I jog in no more than twice the time, essentially it would be the same thing. Now she is a walking fool and is skinnier than me. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/609 "2010-03-10T18:25:29Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > I’m honestly not familiar with the attitude you’ve witnessed. Not a single one of my fat friends ever comment on their weight besides, ‘‘I really need to lose weight one of these days.’’ I’ve never met a single fat person who blamed their genes or thyroid or whatever. I believe these people exist, but I haven’t met them. > > As I stated upthread, I suspect a big part of the fat denial IS the stigma against fatness. If fat wasn’t associated with some character flaw I’m guessing more people would admit they had a problem and deal with it. Have you never read a Doper “fat thread?” This thread has people busy telling us how their toddlers keep them from losing weight - don’t even need to go into genetics or thyroid issues. I have some sympathy, I had toddlers, life with todders in hard. My overweight friends don’t say much about it either. I’ve never found that when everyone ignores your problems, it encourage you to deal with them. Your experience may be different, but in my experience, people are willing to continue to exhibit the behavior they are comfortable with until forced to change. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/610 "2010-03-10T18:27:18Z")
I keep posting this in the weight loss threads - anything you do is better than sitting on the couch. You don’t have to join a gym or get a trainer or go to classes and spend money - just walk out your front door and go to Safeway to buy a loaf of bread. Walk around your block once. When that gets easy, do it twice, and keep on going. I think people just want the magic bullet - telling them that counting calories and exercising regularly (i.e. walking) just isn’t sexy enough. ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/611 "2010-03-10T18:36:36Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > Just curious, when your friends start coming out with the excuses for why they couldn’t keep up with the gym, do you elaborate on the non-gym alternatives like you did in the second half of your post? Or do you just throw up your hands and assume they wouldn’t be interested in hearing about other strategies? I used to discuss the various alternatives, sure - walks after dinner / Wii / bike trainer or treadmills at home etc. I invariably get some variant of the ‘I don’t have time’ reply. Which, of course, is said by someone who spends three nights in week in a bar :smack: So, yeah, now I do tend to just throw up my hands. Or just throw up. Granted, making time is tough, especially at first. It’s not just -finding- time; until it becomes a habit or routine, you have to specifically _make_ time for it (i.e., move something else out of your schedule). It gets a lot easier when it is simply a part of your weekly routine, like bowling night on Thursdays or something. Part of me thinks the ‘willpower’ part isn’t all about just resisting the temptation of sweet/fatty foods; it also includes the willpower to adjust your lifestyle so it doesn’t revolve around TV & junk food in the evenings, or bars, beer, and greasy food, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/612 "2010-03-10T19:14:11Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > I suspect she shot her gun and is now satisfied. Or did some pissed off fatty sit on her? ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/613 "2010-03-10T20:41:32Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > So, yeah, now I do tend to just throw up my hands. **Or just throw up.** Well that’s one way to stay thin… ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/614 "2010-03-10T20:43:18Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > The second my best friend found out I had a pair, she said, “Great. Now I can’t buy Sevens anymore. They are fat girl jeans!” Having never met the woman, I have to say your friend sounds like kind of a twat. Was she being hilarious or what? FWIW, I still love Sevens (having a curvy booty that doesn’t work in Rockin’ Republics, or whatever) and if I saw a bigger girl rocking them, I would probably love them more. I hope you punched your friend right in the boob. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/615 "2010-03-10T20:53:50Z")
I don’t recall encountering any actually fat people whining about their weight; only thin chicks who have body dysmorphia or, more likely, are fishing for compliments. I find this only slightly less annoying than chicks that use Halloween as an excuse to dress like tarts. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/616 "2010-03-10T20:57:47Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > Having never met the woman, I have to say your friend sounds like kind of a twat. Was she being hilarious or what? > > FWIW, I still love Sevens (having a curvy booty that doesn’t work in Rockin’ Republics, or whatever) and if I saw a bigger girl rocking them, I would probably love them more. > > I hope you punched your friend right in the boob. Yeah, but if I did that, then she would punch my boob every time I ripped on her. My best friend is AWESOME and she would never make a fat joke to anyone that she didn’t know totally embraced their big mama-hood. A friend would have to put in the 22 years that she put in with me to even begin to know my sense of humor as well as her. So, yeah. I loves my best friend to death. ETA: She was only half-joking, by the way. She is slim and doesn’t love being big like I do at all. Love her anyways. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/617 "2010-03-10T21:00:10Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > I find this only slightly less annoying than chicks that use Halloween as an excuse to dress like tarts. Why would you find this annoying? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/618 "2010-03-10T21:01:14Z")
Brace yourselves for the WALL OF TEXT you are about to experience. My apologies if it felt like I started this thread and then ran–I post almost exclusively from work, so I’m not on during the weekends, and I’m not posting when I’m busy, as I was the past two days. Rest assured: I will never abandon a thread I start (or even one I participate heavily in) without warning. Is anyone else amused by how this thread is probably at least 50% about whether or not I’m hot and/or fat? > [@Malacandra](#): > > I wondered if you would mind if I think about you while I’m rubbing one out? There’s a surcharge for that. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Yes, I saw those little gems, and interpreted them as a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I forgot that this is the Dope, where everything is taken precisely literally. In related news, when are you going to get your aging surgery? > [@tacoloco](#): > > Someone who wants to rant about fat people had better be a fine physical specimen themselves. God damn, how retarded are you? I’m frustrated by _fat people who don’t take responsibility for what they put into their mouths_, and by _fat people who whine about how they don’t like being fat, but refuse to take any steps towards losing weight_. If you can find me bitching about something about myself I don’t like but not doing anything about it, \*then \*you can take me to task. > [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > Looks aside as beauty is often in the eye of the beholder, I found it funny that someone who is clearly a good 15 pounds overweight, a/k/a fat, would refer to themselves as “slim” and claim that they will NEVER be fat. Uh, you already are. I’m six feet tall. IIRC, I’d need to weigh at least 175 to even begin to qualify as overweight (and obese is a ways further up the scale). The heaviest I’ve ever been is 170–when I start creeping up, that’s my cue to myself that I need to cut back on treats. Duh. > [@elbows](#): > > Something untoward will occur and maybe she’ll end up on her ass, or in a wheelchair and guess what? She’ll start packing on the pounds, and very quickly become exactly what she has expressed loathing for. Better yet, she’ll suddenly develop a thyroid condition. Yeah, or… I’d just cut back my food intake. Damn, this shit is so fucking _complicated_, I know, it’s easy to get confused. > [@Rushgeekgirl](#): > > Twenty years of fretting about fat over Lean Cuisine dinners and Snackwell black cookies (they are in no way chocolatey! Don’t be fooled!) A-fucking-men. Those things are abominations against both god and man. Cardboard would be more palatable. > [@pedescribe](#): > > Ah yes. I remember now. You were the girl with whom I was arguing about taking things seriously. You were of the opinion that we should not, and I, that we should. And you were slinging joke-y insults at people like me until I realized that you were, in fact, not taking it seriously, and that I should too (as you can tell, I haven’t quite gotten there yet). With that in mind, I’m a lot more inclined to take your position. People would do well to pay attention to this post. > [@nyctea scandiaca](#): > > Regarding I was surprised you chose _that_ photo to post because you certainly don’t look _thin_ in that photo. You didn’t have a better photo to illustrate your non-fatness? It was a photo I had on hand, because it’s the only one I’ve posted to the board. Some retard made a predictable “OH YAH WELL I BET U WUDNT POST UR FOTO LOL” comment. I couldn’t care less what impression random internet strangers form of my looks from a photo, so I didn’t bother to take an hour to pick out the perfect outfit, style my hair, put on makeup, and pose for a series of photos so that I could select the very best one. Apparently this comes as a great shock to you, but _I do not actually care what you think about how I look_. Or, perhaps more accurately, it’s nice when people say nice things, but it doesn’t bother me when people say mean ones: I’ll always take a compliment, but insults slide right off, unless they’re actually something I’m self-conscious about. > [@Bosstone](#): > > Chalk up another for “Missing the point.” We should make a drinking game. > [@nyctea scandiaca](#): > > What disgusts me about **Shot From Guns’** attitude is her insinuation that she is somehow a better and more worthy human being because she has such perfect self-control and has not let herself become obese. No, I’m a better and more worthy human being because I take responsibility for my failings and because I don’t whine about things I don’t like about myself while making no effort to change them. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > She’s attractive enough that if were I drunk I’d take a run at her but if I was sober I wouldn’t be able to stand her long enough to get to the car, and while I did okay back in the day I’m no Brad Pitt. It’s so cute how you’d think I’d have any reaction from a come-on from you other than to laugh hysterically or vomit. > [@friedo](#): > > This is one of the most amusing threads I’ve read here in a long time. Reminds me of the old school The Pit. That’s what I was going for. Well, actually, the BAR, but that’s another site and another time. The general attitude is the same, though. > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I think I may be in love with you. Jesus fuck, I take everything back. Everything. I love fatties. Fatties, come here! It’s okay, it’s not your fault! There’s a secret government conspiracy that’s making you fat! > [@KarlGauss](#): > > I have a few questions for the fat ass OP’er Don’t you dare go bringing sense into this thread, mister. This thread is about annoyance at fatties. Further: Do you imagine that taking in fewer calories than your body requires to maintain its current weight will not result in you losing fat? > [@Dostoyevsky](#): > > 1. People who don’t immediately fix all/any of their problems have two choices, honesty or denial… you evidently prefer them to live in the latter. It’s fine if you have different priorities. But don’t pretend like it’s anyone else’s fault, or that it’s not a choice you’re making. Don’t come whining to me about how you hate being fat if you’re not doing anything about it. > [@](#): > > 1. People have different priorities. Your question, “How the hell can you do that to yourself?” is easily answered with your own, “I’m perfectly happy with being a blunt asshole.” We all have our flaws and we all recognize them. Parody thy name is self. I like being a blunt asshole, at least in certain contexts. Fat people don’t like being fat. That’s the distinction. > [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > It will have to be some other mythical ailment that will make the OP fat despite her self control about food and regular exercising. (I’m really interested to know what that would be, actually). I actually don’t excercise for shit these days. I’m terribly out of shape–but you won’t hear me bitching about it, because I realize it’s a result of the choices I make. > [@ivn1188](#): > > Pit fat people or swingers (excuse me, “polyamory”) - jackpot. This has 6 pages _overnight_. That’s what I was hoping for, personally. I’m just annoyed I missed out on actively participating in about 10 of the first 12 or 13 pages because work got busy. > [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > I’m a big mama, and I have no one to blame but myself. I actually embrace my big mama-ness, however, I love to over eat the wrong foods so much that I actually must work very hard to keep it under some semblance of control or it would be much worse…worse to the point where I didn’t feel big and sexy, but just fat and sloppy. And I wouldn’t like that. See, and self-confident fat people don’t bother me (the ones who aren’t grotesquely obese, anyway). As long as you’re happy with who you are, it’s not as big (heh) of a problem. It’s when someone doesn’t like their weight, and whines about it, but doesn’t cut back on the eating and/or step up the exercise that I say GOD DAMN FATTY SHUT THE FUCK UP. > [@SenorBeef](#): > > I have a difficult time believing that you indeed don’t “have any issues with people who are fat and happy with their bodies” - I’d imagine they repulse you and you think something is wrong with them. Wrong. I’ve dated a couple of fat guys, slept with one, and had crushes on a few more. Know what the big connecting thread was? Confidence. They didn’t complain about being fat. They were either happy with who they were or actively working to make themselves who they wanted to be. Which isn’t to say I’m specifically attracted to fat guys–all things being equal, I’d rather have a thin one–but that it’s not an auto-no, depending on how the guy sees himself. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It’s bannination (at least when it comes to name-calling among posters) is official board policy according to the new rules that went into effect last spring. Oh god, I really wish it were, just for the distinction of being the person who got you pissed off enough to use a word that got you permanently the hell off this forum. > [@Lobsang](#): > > I myself was annoyed at the OP for the way he went about his pitting. Six pages of people talking about whether or not they’d fuck me, and \*\*Lobsang \*\*\*still \*hasn’t figured out I’m female? > [@Rumor\_Watkins](#): > > I think another reason the OP was bringing up the 1995 vs 2008 comparison (or whatever years it was) is to make the inference that these “reasons” can’t just, biologically speaking, sprout out from no where. it’s all about the people themselves and the attitude they take towards their own personal responsibility for the food they consume. Bingo. (Not that I’m not cognizant of the societal factors that influence obesity–food in American culture is incredibly fucked up–but (a) where’s the fun in pitting that? and (b) it does ultimately all come down to personal responsibility. Society and genetics can make it easier or harder, but at the end of the day, you’re the one making the decisions about what you eat and what kind of physical activity you engage in. > [@SteveG1](#): > > Do we start insulting and verbally attacking everyone? Yes. Duh? > [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > If some anonymous poster on the world wide web can send someone over the edge with their meaningless post, then that someone has bigger issues that they need to focus on with the help of a therapist or something. I’m pretty sure the issue is “being a fucking retard for opening a thread in the Pit titled ‘Hey Fatties.’” > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I decided to take a look at our charming OP’s profile to find out if she’s Shot Her Wad here in this thread or simply been offline, and while there I found this pic from the homepage in her profile. Wow. You dug up my old LJ (hah, I’d completely forgotten I’d linked that in my profile) and posted things from it here in an attempt to make fun of me? Could you be \*\*any \*\*more of a creeper? Especially hilarious: You didn’t even look at the dates on the posts. Welcome to three years ago, moron. > [@ivn1188](#): > > Nope, the problem is esteem. She’s got it, you don’t. Exactly. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I don’t think it’s her personality that has them going. It was the photo she posted showing skin up to her ass. I know they didn’t have these in your day, grandpa, but they’re called “tights.” > [@Una\_Persson](#): > > I mean really, she shows off skin to the bottom of her bum for Halloween, and what’s next - she’s dancing around at the local Montessori school wearing naught but a tasseled butt plug? “Come on children, time to rub down the ponygrrl! Whiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnney!” I laughed so hard I almost drooled. > [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Might wanna check your facts before you insult. Ahahaha, **SA**? Check **facts**?! Aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha. Hahahahaha. Hahaha. Haha. Ha. Heh. > [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > **Shot From Guns** is basically the female **Dio**. Ouch. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Fine, she’s ugly. ☹ NOW I KNOW WHY YOU WON’T TOUCH ME AT NIGHT ANYMORE. > [@tacoloco](#): > > But she opened the door to that particular kind of criticism. No I didn’t. [\*\*You \*\*asked for a photo](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12192725&postcount=25), and I gave you one. The whole “You must be this thin and/or attractive to post in this thread” is coming entirely from you, shitcock. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Stating that these excuses are insufficient does not equal “I am the most beautiful person ever,” nor does it equal “I am five times more fit than any personal trainer you’ve ever seen.” What it equals is “I am sick and goddamned tired of this false notion I often here extolled from the obese that their genes have locked them in fat prison, and not what they’ve been earing.” > > And where did this idea that she is bashing all fat people come from. There was a specific line of excuses that she was pitting here. I know, I know, people are reading in between the lines here, and are gleaning that what she secretly meant is “I hate fat people,” but I’ll go ahead and interpret her statements as what they were, which is she is annoyed by whiny, self-deluded fat people. See, you get it. Why doesn’t **tacoloco**? (Seriously, where the fuck did that name come from? Did you just mash together the only two Spanish words you know? Look, I can do it, too– **Sombrerolechuga**! I made a name!) > [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > It might have something to do with the “Heeeeey FATTIES” thread title. If she was looking for rational discourse, she should have posted this in GD. Oh yeah, like a thread about fatties taking some personal responsibility is going to make it five seconds in GD before getting sent here, anyway. I just decided to cut to the chase and get to the fun stuff early. > [@](#): > > She posted it in the Pit, and oh noes! mean people talked about her looks!!! If she didn’t want that to happen, she should have kept her picture to herself instead of falling for the okeydoke. Do you see me complaining about it anywhere? Nope. > [@Max\_Torque](#): > > I have to give up the few hours a day that I have with my little girl because unlike you gifted douchebags, I don’t have the luxury of “I can just eat anything I want, tee hee!” because I didn’t win the genetic lottery. See, this is the kind of stuff that makes people not take you seriously. Because most thin people aren’t thin by default. We’re thin because we _work at it_, whether it’s turning down the cupcake we really fucking want or walking to the grocery store instead of taking the car. P.S. Holy shit your daughter is fucking adorable. > [@Malacandra](#): > > The point is, of course, that this is like claiming you can’t sail from Bristol to New York because no matter how well you work out your course, no-one can help making a tiny error or drifting a mite off track, and by the time you’ve crossed the ocean you’re miles off your landfall. How you actually sail a ship is that you check your position and make course corrections as you go. I wish someone would have explained this to me before I ended up stranded in Gary, Indiana for ten years. > [@Zjestika](#): > > Of course it wasn’t easy, and it’s going to be something I work at for the rest of my life, but I hated being fat. I am so happy that it was my fault because I was able to change. Exactly! Free will is the best fucking news of all, but it’s also the scariest. Because (a) it means that we control our own lives, but (b) holy shit, it means that we control our own lives. > [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > It really can be that simple (note I said “simple,” not “easy”). I think that’s really what it comes down to. No, it isn’t _easy_. But, yes, it really is that _simple_. > [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > I’m actually struggling a bit because you’re suppose to increase your caloric intake while pregnant by about 300 calories and it feels like I’m eating a lot of food. :dubious: According to whom? Consistently across the entire pregnancy? It seems weird to me that a 20-cell blastocyst would have the same caloric needs as a baby a week from delivery. > [@pbbth](#): > > This is your quote from the smoking thread in MPSIMS: Go back and read it again. Nowhere do I say that I blamed my smoking on anyone but myself. Nowhere do I say that I wanted to quit and complained about how I hated smoking, but still kept smoking and didn’t do anything to try to quit. I continued to smoke for as long as I wanted to smoke. Once I didn’t want to smoke anymore, I quit. And \*that \*is the difference. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > So is **Guns** going to return to this thread or not? Don’t worry, **MOL** , I’m here for you. Shit got pretty fucking serious while I was gone, for which I apologize profusely. > [@DragonAsh](#): > > People deny the problem _because_ they want to avoid dealing with the personal responsibility part. Nail on the fucking head. > [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > I ask because the concensus in this thread seems to be that us thin folks need to stop coddling the fatties around us and start telling it like it is. But I’m having a real hard time seeing what this would look like in civil society, though. As opposed to an anoynomous message board. Of course it doesn’t work in a civil fucking society. You’ll note that I put this in the Pit. But just because being blunt to the point of rudeness doesn’t work \*doesn’t \*mean that you can’t get the same message across in a more polite fashion, especially to someone you’re close with. It just takes more effort. Part of the problem is that, as \*\*DragonAsh \*\*observed, people don’t want their fattiness to be even partly their own fault. So \*any \*insinuation that what they really need to do is start paying more attention to the foods they eat, how much of them they eat, what kind of exercise they get, etc., comes off as a personal attack. On preview: **WOOKINPANUB** : If you haven’t encountered any fat people talking about how they dislike being fat and wish they could be thin, you probably don’t have many (any) fat friends, nor have you paid any attention in this thread. And if that last comment was directed at me, I’m not dressed like a tart, I’m dressed like a fucking horror movie victim, because I’m a big ol’ geek like that, and because I thought it would be stupidly easy (it wasn’t). The costume before \*that \*was Rorschach (and yes, this was before the film came out), which is about as anti-tart as you can get, and firmly blows a hole in your creepily misogynist theory. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/619 "2010-03-10T21:06:40Z")
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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/620 "2010-03-10T21:13:22Z")
> [@](#): > > God damn, how retarded are you? I’m frustrated by fat people who don’t take responsibility for what they put into their mouths, and by fat people who whine about how they don’t like being fat, but refuse to take any steps towards losing weight. If you can find me bitching about something about myself I don’t like but not doing anything about it, then you can take me to task. Bzzt. Try again. I can take you to task for being a complete fucking asshole in this thread. You’re not frustrated, you’re just a delusional blowhard who hates fat people. And I think you’re a fucking liar when you try to claim otherwise. So yeah, don’t tell me what I can take you to task for, dumbass. Oh and fuck you, you stupid twat for waiting so long to come back to this thread and subject people to your classic bullshit wall of text posts. Jesus the stupid is thick on you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465.md?page=32)