# Helena Bonham Carter, weird chickens and Tim Burton's eggs

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 21, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652 "2012-05-21T21:03:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![johnspartan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@johnspartan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnspartan)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652/1 "2012-05-21T21:03:41Z")

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Indisputable fact #1: Helena Bonham Carter’s in nearly everything Tim Burton does.  
Indisputable fact #2: Helena Bonham Carter’s a little odd.  
Indisputable fact #3: Tim Burton’s movies are more than a little odd.  
Indisputable fact #4: HBC and Tim Burton are in a long-term relationship.

Now… is HBC in a relationship with TB _because_ she’s a little odd, and she’s in his movies because she’s in a relationship with him?

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Is she a little odd _because_ she’s in a relationship with him, and she’s also a little odd _because_ she’s in his odd movies??

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Is she in his movies because she’s a little odd, and she in a relationship with him because she’s in his movies?

OR

Are his movies odd because she’s a little odd and in them?

OR is there no cause-and-effect at play and it’s all independent acts of randomness?

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652/2 "2012-05-21T21:09:24Z")

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His movies were odd before they knew each other.  
I’m pretty sure she was odd before they knew each other.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652/3 "2012-05-21T21:22:40Z")

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Where does this leave Johnny Depp?

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652/4 "2012-05-21T21:30:17Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Where does this leave Johnny Depp?

In a LTR with Danny Elfman?

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**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652/5 "2012-05-21T22:06:32Z")

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1 and 4 from the OP look like they could be facts. 2 and 3 are opinions, and would be even if you proved that every single person on Earth agreed with them. It’s not that I care that much, but the phrase “indisputable facts” followed by non-facts raises my hackles a bit.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652/6 "2012-05-21T22:17:38Z")

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I’m pretty sure that Tim Burton looks at a picture of Johnny Depp while he’s having sex with Helena Bonham Carter.

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**Author:** ![kirk1168](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/45deac/32.png) [@kirk1168](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kirk1168)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652/7 "2012-05-21T23:31:40Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> I’m pretty sure that Tim Burton looks at a picture of Johnny Depp while he’s having sex with Helena Bonham Carter.

Win.

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**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652/8 "2012-05-22T00:14:36Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> I’m pretty sure that Tim Burton looks at a picture of Johnny Depp while he’s having sex with Helena Bonham Carter.

You put it better than I ever could

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652/9 "2012-05-22T00:26:11Z")

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Both were oddballs before they fell in love.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652/10 "2012-05-22T01:57:12Z")

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But what does Tim Burton look at when he’s having sex with a picture of Johnny Depp?

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652/11 "2012-05-22T02:08:02Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> His movies were odd before they knew each other.
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> I’m pretty sure she was odd before they knew each other.

This is the correct answer, though she didn’t seem quite so odd when she was going out with Kenneth Branagh, so I figure his presence kept her sane.

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**Author:** ![johnspartan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@johnspartan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnspartan)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652/12 "2012-05-23T13:43:40Z")

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> [@Greg\_Charles](#):
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> 1 and 4 from the OP look like they could be facts. 2 and 3 are opinions, and would be even if you proved that every single person on Earth agreed with them. It’s not that I care that much, but the phrase “indisputable facts” followed by non-facts raises my hackles a bit.

In that case… indisputable fact #5: Greg Charles has slightly raised hackles.

I’m sure there’s, like, a cream for that or something. 😛

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652/13 "2012-05-23T19:00:17Z")

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My ex-wife was at pre-school with Tim Burton. (At least, she is fairly confident it was him.) She says he was a little odd (and in the sort of way you would expect) even then.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena-bonham-carter-weird-chickens-and-tim-burtons-eggs/622652/14 "2012-05-23T19:23:47Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> This is the correct answer, though she didn’t seem quite so odd when she was going out with Kenneth Branagh, so I figure his presence kept her sane.

Back then, I think a lot of HBC’s “oddness” was due to the fact that she dressed like an impoverished hipster college student in her off-time which, according to some uptight Brits, was supposedly beneath someone from an affluent family who was the great granddaughter of a Prime Minister. [H.H. Asquith](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._H._Asquith). (And yes, I agree that as an American, this is something I know too much about.)

As for now, her oddness is more self-aware and calculated. Because of her past and her connection with Tim Burton, people expect her to be odd so she plays odd by dressing weirdly.
