# Helena330 is an anti-male, feminist zealot

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 29, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264 "2017-03-29T02:06:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/1 "2017-03-29T02:06:21Z")

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I had to get something off my chest, and looking at the rules, it appears this is the place to do it.

Four days ago, a user called **Esco** posted a thread in the “In My Humble Opinion” section, wherein he revealed he was in a relationship with a successful young businesswoman in her 20s, but who had a serious coke habit. He asked whether he should stay with the woman, or leave her. An overwhelming majority of Dopers who posted on the thread, over 90% by my count, urged him to get out of the relationship as there was a serious chance she would escalate her addiction and start _stealing_ his hard-earned money to continue her cocaine habit. However, he repeatedly and stubbornly refused to listen, at one point just laughing off a user who asked whether he had seen any money missing, as if it was a laughing matter.

So, I decided to pitch in a dose of bluntness:

> [@Dating a cocaine addict](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dating-a-cocaine-addict/782926/103):
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> I’m going to be blunt with you: Get the fuck out of there.
> 
> As Norman Osborn widely told his son Harry in the 2002 _Spider-Man_ film regarding his relationship with Mary Jane: “Do what you need to with her, and then broom her fast.” It seems like this girlfriend of yours is a successful, upper-middle class woman and adept saleswoman. Good for her.
> 
> However, she’s also on a downward spiral. Cocaine does that to people. This bitch will tell you she loves you one minute and be sincere about it, and then sneak off with your wallet in the next to fuel her habit. As the aforementioned Osborn also told Harry about his late wife: “Your mother was beautiful. They’re all beautiful—until they’re snarling after your trust fund like a pack of ravening wolves.”
> 
> Your bitch sounds to me like a classic femme fatal, a hard-charging narcissist with a penchant for finer things in life that regular, working-class folks in America could only dream of (she lives in Toronto yes, but that’s besides the point, she still has more dough than most people).
> 
> Dump this broad, set her up in a therapy program for drug addicts, and move on your merry way. You don’t need this unrepentant, drug-addled, knee-jerk Trotskyite.
> 
> Also, [see this excellent video on this subject for more, important information](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9XOAWZEgY4).
> 
> This may seem harsh, but sometimes bluntness is a virtuous necessity.

I also cited real-life documentaries in another post, as evidence for my claim. Nevertheless, another user, **Helena330** , evidently did not take kindly to my strong advice despite its obvious necessity, and said the following:

> [@Dating a cocaine addict](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dating-a-cocaine-addict/782926/112):
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> But, of course! Documentaries, as opposed to real-life experience, teach you all you need to know!
> 
> The OP is thinking with his dick, but you don’t think at all. You just throw some misogynist shit on the wall and figure we’ll buy it. Stay in college. You have MUCH to learn.

Ah, “thinking with his dick”, but I’m not thinking at all? That was a classic page from the radical, anti-male feminist playbook. No woman I’ve ever met gratuitously said another man is “thinking with his dick”. I have heard lines like that from radical feminists, and other extremists.

**Helena330** , you should be ashamed of yourself, honestly. I was trying to help the dude get rid of this crackwhore who’s very clearly on track to start taking his money, and I said it in very blunt, forceful terms since the more gentle posts of other users clearly wasn’t working, and you excoriate me for it? I bet you think that men, not women, should take the last names of their spouses when they marry.

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you, Helena? Daddy didn’t give you enough love or something? Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/2 "2017-03-29T02:12:20Z")

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I’m going to make an early prediction here that this thread is not going to go how you expect it.

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/3 "2017-03-29T02:14:27Z")

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Waits gleefully. 😃

FYI, I \*\*LOVE \*\*men.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/4 "2017-03-29T02:16:26Z")

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Hi, Helena330, how you doin’?

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/5 "2017-03-29T02:22:07Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Hi, Helena330, how you doin’?

How **YOU** doin’?? 😛

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/6 "2017-03-29T02:22:57Z")

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What’s stupid is that both of you are turning this 90210 pablum into a political issue.

WOMAN HATER! MAN HATER! Anything for teh drama.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/7 "2017-03-29T02:27:55Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
>
> I had to get something off my chest, and looking at the rules, it appears this is the place to do it.
> 
> Four days ago, a user called **Esco** posted a thread in the “In My Humble Opinion” section, wherein he revealed he was in a relationship with a successful young businesswoman in her 20s, but who had a serious coke habit. He asked whether he should stay with the woman, or leave her. An overwhelming majority of Dopers who posted on the thread, over 90% by my count, urged him to get out of the relationship as there was a serious chance she would escalate her addiction and start _stealing_ his hard-earned money to continue her cocaine habit. However, he repeatedly and stubbornly refused to listen, at one point just laughing off a user who asked whether he had seen any money missing, as if it was a laughing matter.
> 
> So, I decided to pitch in a dose of bluntness:  
> I also cited real-life documentaries in another post, as evidence for my claim. Nevertheless, another user, **Helena330** , evidently did not take kindly to my strong advice despite its obvious necessity, and said the following:  
> Ah, “thinking with his dick”, but I’m not thinking at all? That was a classic page from the radical, anti-male feminist playbook. No woman I’ve ever met gratuitously said another man is “thinking with his dick”. I have heard lines like that from radical feminists, and other extremists.
> 
> **Helena330** , you should be ashamed of yourself, honestly. I was trying to help the dude get rid of this crackwhore who’s very clearly on track to start taking his money, and I said it in very blunt, forceful terms since the more gentle posts of other users clearly wasn’t working, and you excoriate me for it? I bet you think that men, not women, should take the last names of their spouses when they marry.
> 
> Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you, Helena? Daddy didn’t give you enough love or something? Sheesh.

Yawn. What else you got? I’m sure you’ll have a very limited lifespan here, so get your rage all out now while you can.

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**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/8 "2017-03-29T02:29:57Z")

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I’m pretty sure she’s not.

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**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/9 "2017-03-29T02:30:20Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> Yawn. What else you got? I’m sure you’ll have a very limited lifespan here, so get your rage all out now while you can.

…Are you guys fucking serious? You’re siding with her, after all I tried to do was make this man realize the foolishness of his ways, entrusting a cocaine addict to be in a relationship with him and not taking seriously the very real threat of her stealing from him?

That makes me the bad guy?

No. It does not. You left-wing boneheads can’t take your political correctness blinders off for one goddamn second, and realize that being forceful is an effective way of getting a message as important as mine across to this guy?

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/10 "2017-03-29T02:32:12Z")

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**Helena** is a damn saint compared to **CosmicManiac**.

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**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/11 "2017-03-29T02:33:15Z")

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…And no one has still explained, in detail, why I’m supposedly at fault here.

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/12 "2017-03-29T02:34:10Z")

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Why are trump supporters so whiny and thin skinned?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/13 "2017-03-29T02:35:04Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> …Are you guys fucking serious? You’re siding with her, after all I tried to do was make this man realize the **foolishness of his ways** , entrusting a cocaine addict to be in a relationship with him and not taking seriously the very real threat of her stealing from him?
> 
> That makes me the bad guy?
> 
> No. It does not. You left-wing boneheads can’t take your political correctness blinders off for one goddamn second, and realize that being forceful is an effective way of getting a message as important as mine across to this guy?

This coming from a sTrumpet.  
It is to laugh.

Looks like your way wasn’t effective.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/14 "2017-03-29T02:37:12Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> …And no one has still explained, in detail, why I’m supposedly at fault here.

That’s because you already know why you’re at fault here.

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**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/15 "2017-03-29T02:38:46Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> …And no one has still explained, in detail, why I’m supposedly at fault here.

Possibly because you don’t know your ass from Donald Trump’s head?

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**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/16 "2017-03-29T02:38:51Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> That’s because you already know why you’re at fault here.

No, I actually fucking don’t. Will someone please explain what’s the matter with severe bluntness to a guy who can’t get the message any other way?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/17 "2017-03-29T02:42:47Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> …And no one has still explained, in detail, why I’m supposedly at fault here.

Phrases like “your bitch” and “dump this broad” are out of line. You can be blunt without having to be insulting to all women.

That said, I can see why “thinking with his dick” is also insulting. But don’t act like your hands are totally clean in all of this.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/18 "2017-03-29T02:43:29Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> No, I actually fucking don’t. Will someone please explain what’s the matter with severe bluntness to a guy who can’t get the message any other way?

Hey dumbfuck! Did you know you’re a blithering idiot to support someone both temperamentally and intellectually unfit to be President?

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/19 "2017-03-29T02:44:58Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> No, I actually fucking don’t. Will someone please explain what’s the matter with severe bluntness to a guy who can’t get the message any other way?

Ok fine, I’ll entertain you:

John: “That fucking nigger stole my car!!”

**Quiz:** _While John did indeed have his car stolen by a black man, can you tell me why John is still a fucking ass?_

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**Author:** ![Girlundone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Girlundone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girlundone)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/20 "2017-03-29T02:51:06Z")

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[QUOTE=CosmicManiac]  
Ah, “thinking with his dick”, but I’m not thinking at all? That was a classic page from the radical, anti-male feminist playbook. No woman I’ve ever met gratuitously said another man is “thinking with his dick”. I have heard lines like that from radical feminists, and other extremists.

[/QUOTE]  
What no. In discussions with male friends, I’ve even heard them say this about themselves or other guys. “Bad decision dating that girl, but I was thinking with my dick” It just means you ignored red flags because someone is hot. I have “thought with my jay” before.

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