# Helena330 is an anti-male, feminist zealot

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 29, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264 "2017-03-29T02:06:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/201 "2017-03-30T03:26:27Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Because it gets so fucking tiring with people like you.
> 
> You insist that we are pissed at Cosmo because he dared insinuate that a woman on drugs may be likely to take advantage of a guy she’s dating.
> 
> No, that’s NOT what we’re pissed about and you fucking know it. It’s the “Your Bitch” thing, it’s the objectification “Get what you need, then broom them fast!” etc…  
> So yeah, after so many times of pointing out the obvious to you, remarks like: “You’re a fucking idiot!” seem completely justifiable.

Sigh. Let’s try this again. I’ll type real s-l-o-w so that mouthbreathers like you might be able to follow along.

I made this statement:

> [@](#):
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> They’re liberals, dude. Any time you say anything based in logic and fact, you’re automatically wrong and evil and bigoted and thinking with your dick, etc.

That is a statement of fact. And damn near every response that I have gotten on that statement simply goes to prove the accuracy of the statement. Including yours.

And yet you oblivious liberal blockheads still wonder why I think that YOU are all fucking idiots.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/202 "2017-03-30T03:28:15Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Wow. You’re a generous person. I would have thought a persimmon big enough for this jack hole.
> 
> (Heh heh. Jack hole. Get it?)
> 
> **BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Really?**
> 
> No, not automatically. Just when someone is actually wrong and evil and bigoted.

Bolding mine. [Yes](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20081688&postcount=38).

He also had to [“look up Vicodin,”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20082929&postcount=51) so clearly we can totally trust his vast knowledge on the subject of drugs and abuse.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/203 "2017-03-30T03:28:27Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Sigh. Let’s try this again. I’ll type real s-l-o-w so that mouthbreathers like you might be able to follow along.
> 
> I made this statement:
> 
> **That is a statement of fact.** And damn near every response that I have gotten on that statement simply goes to prove the accuracy of the statement. Including yours.
> 
> And yet you oblivious liberal blockheads still wonder why I think that YOU are all fucking idiots.

You have a cite for the bolded part?

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**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/204 "2017-03-30T03:31:45Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Bolding mine. [Yes](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20081688&postcount=38).
> 
> He also had to [“look up Vicodin,”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20082929&postcount=51) so clearly we can totally trust his vast knowledge on the subject of drugs and abuse.

What’s your point? Would you prefer I not look up the details on critical issues before answering important questions? 😕 I also never claimed to be the foremost expert on this issue, just that I was a guy who had some knowledge on it.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/205 "2017-03-30T03:32:12Z")

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My cat was getting antsy for the 'nip so I had him put down.

Just kidding. I only distracted him with a laser pointer.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/206 "2017-03-30T03:32:24Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Sigh. Let’s try this again. I’ll type real s-l-o-w so that mouthbreathers like you might be able to follow along.
> 
> I made this statement:
> 
> That is a statement of fact. And damn near every response that I have gotten on that statement simply goes to prove the accuracy of the statement. Including yours.
> 
> And yet you oblivious liberal blockheads still wonder why I think that YOU are all fucking idiots.

Who accused who of thinking with his dick? I am thinking a conservative took offense at some random person saying another random person was thinkin with his dick.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/207 "2017-03-30T03:33:03Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> What’s your point? Would you prefer I not look up the details on critical issues before answering important questions? 😕 I also never claimed to be the foremost expert on this issue, just that I was a guy who had some knowledge on it.

YES, YOU SHOULD! but you didn’t before spouting off as the authority on all things drugs.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/208 "2017-03-30T03:35:36Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> What’s your point? Would you prefer I not look up the details on critical issues before answering important questions? 😕 I also never claimed to be the foremost expert on this issue, just that I was a guy who had some knowledge on it.

No, the point is you felt the need to express your opinion based on…well, nothing really. Ad you chose to express it in shockingly misogynistic terms.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/209 "2017-03-30T03:38:35Z")

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I keep pondering the statement that you should get what you need, and broom 'em fast.

What is it that you “need?”  
(don’t care what the Goblin meant, I wanna know what you mean, CosmicManiac)

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**Author:** ![Beren\_Erchamion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@Beren\_Erchamion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beren_Erchamion)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/210 "2017-03-30T03:40:00Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Sigh. Let’s try this again. I’ll type real s-l-o-w so that mouthbreathers like you might be able to follow along.

I’ll respond to the reality-based portions of your post:

Happy now?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/211 "2017-03-30T03:44:55Z")

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> [@Not\_Carlson](#):
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> Or, y’know, based on a [SPIDERMAN VILLAIN](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0krrrOmv0Xg)!

There’s nothing more stupid. Might as well sell the character to DC.

> [@Helena330](#):
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> This thread has gone about as I expected since I got\*\* Cosmic\*\*'s PM entitled “I’ve pitted you for your anti-male rhetoric”. Thanks, Dopers.

He PMed you? This kid has potential to someday develop class. Let’s keep him around and see what happens.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> What was the deal with the “Goblin machine” in the movie, anyway?

This is what I mean.

> [@Beren\_Erchamion](#):
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> I mean, it is proof positive of moral degeneracy.

Snarky as shit. We need to keep him.

> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Now, now. Psychedelics are a whole different ball game.

Oh fuck, yeah!

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/212 "2017-03-30T03:50:51Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> My cat was getting antsy for the 'nip so I had him put down.
> 
> Just kidding. I only distracted him with a laser pointer.

That last bit works with Clothy, too.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/213 "2017-03-30T03:53:09Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> My cat was getting antsy for the 'nip so I had him put down.

My oldest has a cat named Jones. It’s appropriate. Had a hedge full of it. My cats loved to go outside.

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**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/214 "2017-03-30T03:54:01Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> I keep pondering the statement that you should get what you need, and broom 'em fast.
> 
> What is it that you “need?”  
> (don’t care what the Goblin meant, I wanna know what you mean, CosmicManiac)

I meant you should bang her a few more times if it’ll make you feel better, but then get out of there once you’ve gotten your rocks off enough to satisfy yourself.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/215 "2017-03-30T03:57:09Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> I meant you should bang her a few more times if it’ll make you feel better, but then get out of there once you’ve gotten your rocks off enough to satisfy yourself.

Fuck her and forget her, you mean?

Hit it and quit it?

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**Author:** ![Beren\_Erchamion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@Beren\_Erchamion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beren_Erchamion)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/216 "2017-03-30T03:57:28Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> I meant you should bang her a few more times if it’ll make you feel better, but then get out of there once you’ve gotten your rocks off enough to satisfy yourself.

Holy shit you’re a moral degenerate.

Women are people, not fucktoys. Women’s emotions matter too.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/217 "2017-03-30T03:57:46Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> I meant you should bang her a few more times if it’ll make you feel better, but then get out of there once you’ve gotten your rocks off enough to satisfy yourself.

OK. Read that again. Do you see nothing there that leads people to accuse you of being a misogynistic asshole?

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**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/218 "2017-03-30T03:58:52Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Fuck her and forget her, you mean?
> 
> Hit it and quit it?

Precisely.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/219 "2017-03-30T04:03:26Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> OK. Read that again. Do you see nothing there that leads people to accuse you of being a misogynistic asshole?

Quoting for emphasis.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/220 "2017-03-30T04:04:40Z")

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> [@Beren\_Erchamion](#):
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> Holy shit you’re a moral degenerate.
> 
> Women are people, not fucktoys. Women’s emotions matter too.

And quoting this for truth.

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