# Helena330 is an anti-male, feminist zealot

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 29, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264 "2017-03-29T02:06:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/221 "2017-03-30T04:07:01Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> OK. Read that again. Do you see nothing there that leads people to accuse you of being a misogynistic asshole?

> [@raventhief](#):
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> Quoting for emphasis.

No no no! its Helena who is the “anti-male, feminist zealot”, can’t you see!?!? She said “thinking with your dick” to someone!

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/222 "2017-03-30T04:12:06Z")

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Incidentally, I asked my husband if he has ever said someone is “thinking with his dick,” and he looked at me like I was speaking Martian and said " Yeah, cause we do that."

I am having a hard seeing this this as anti-male. It’s more “has actually met males.”

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**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/223 "2017-03-30T04:18:39Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Incidentally, I asked my husband if he has ever said someone is “thinking with his dick,” and he looked at me like I was speaking Martian and said " Yeah, cause we do that."
> 
> I am having a hard seeing this this as anti-male. It’s more “has actually met males.”

Your hubby’s reaction proves my point: very few, probably close to zero, males ever use such an obtuse phrase, and it’s not okay for females to do it, as it is a sexist stereotype that men are horny pigs.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/224 "2017-03-30T04:21:00Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> Your hubby’s reaction proves my point: very few, probably close to zero, males ever use such an obtuse phrase, and it’s not okay for females to do it, as it is a sexist stereotype that men are horny pigs.

He said, “Yeah” as in yes, he said that. Do you ever read for comprehension or just start typing when you see pixels?

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/225 "2017-03-30T04:21:55Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> Your hubby’s reaction proves my point: very few, probably close to zero, males ever use such an obtuse phrase, and it’s not okay for females to do it, as it is a sexist stereotype that men are horny pigs.

LOL my husband was saying that he characterizes other men like that all the time- any time they are making decisions with genitalia rather than grey matter.

ETA: I read your response to him and to the point that “men are horny pigs” he said “CAUSE WE ARE!”

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**Author:** ![Beren\_Erchamion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@Beren\_Erchamion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beren_Erchamion)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/226 "2017-03-30T04:23:40Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> Your hubby’s reaction proves my point: very few, probably close to zero, males ever use such an obtuse phrase, and it’s not okay for females to do it, as it is a sexist stereotype that men are horny pigs.

So in addition to being a moral degenerate, you’re also illiterate?

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**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/227 "2017-03-30T04:25:49Z")

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Never liked cocaine. Just made me manic, and I could get there without spending all that money. Speed and/or 'shrooms, on the other hand…

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**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/228 "2017-03-30T04:27:15Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> LOL my husband was saying that he characterizes other men like that all the time- any time they are making decisions with genitalia rather than grey matter.
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> ETA: I read your response to him and to the point that “men are horny pigs” he said “CAUSE WE ARE!”

Well, Your statement that your husband was looking at you like you were “speaking Martian” gave me the impression that he was being sarcastic when he said “Yeah, cause we do that.”

I mean, why else would he give you that look?

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/229 "2017-03-30T04:27:48Z")

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> [@eulalia](#):
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> Never liked cocaine. Just made me manic, and I could get there without spending all that money. Speed and/or 'shrooms, on the other hand…

E with a chaser of crystal…that is where it WAS at. Not anymore. Im all old and broken now but damn…back in the day…

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**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/230 "2017-03-30T04:27:54Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> Your hubby’s reaction proves my point: very few, probably close to zero, males ever use such an obtuse phrase, and it’s not okay for females to do it, as it is a sexist stereotype that men are horny pigs.

I’ve heard the expression from lots of men, so again I have to say you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/231 "2017-03-30T04:29:32Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> Well, Your statement that your husband was looking at you like you were “speaking Martian” gave me the impression that he was being sarcastic when he said “Yeah, cause we do that.”
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> I mean, why else would he give you that look?

He looked at me like he had no damn idea why I would even ask.

You know, others got the idea. Yet you faltered. You seem to lack reading comprehension. Are you sure you belong in University? I think you may be in danger of flunking out.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/232 "2017-03-30T04:31:58Z")

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> [@eulalia](#):
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> I’ve heard the expression from lots of men, so again I have to say you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.

I have to say, I have heard the expression from a hell of a lot of men, and very few women.I just dont think CM has any real life experience.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/233 "2017-03-30T04:34:44Z")

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Honest question - how old are you, really?

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**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/234 "2017-03-30T04:36:40Z")

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My reading comprehension is fine, thank you very much. I just had a long day today is all; tired, spend some time in the gym.

Anyway, I’m not a misogynist. End of story. **Esco** needs to get as far away from that woman as possible.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/235 "2017-03-30T04:42:34Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> My reading comprehension is fine, thank you very much. I just had a long day today is all; tired, spend some time in the gym.
> 
> Anyway, I’m not a misogynist. End of story. **Esco** needs to get as far away from that woman as possible.

I would say your reading comprehension is severely lacking. If you responded thusly on a test in my class…well, let’s say you wouldn’t like the mark you received.

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**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/236 "2017-03-30T04:44:20Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Honest question - how old are you, really?

What’s it to you?

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/237 "2017-03-30T04:46:46Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> What’s it to you?

Naught more than simple curiosity. If you have honestly never heard a man describing another man as “thinking with his dick,” I would put your age at around…maybe 10?

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/238 "2017-03-30T04:47:20Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Sorry if it upsets you, dude - it was a statement of fact. All one has to do is to read responses to my posts to see what I’m talking about. Just the responses in this thread prove what I said.
> 
> It’s not that I _enjoy_ poking libs with a stick, but damn, it gets tiring reading idiotic bullshit and namecalling responses every day whenever I post something. It’s like listening to the monkeys in the zoo gibbering and throwing shit all over the place. It was funny for a while but not any more.

OK. No name-calling then.  
Just this:  
[ol]  
[li]Posters have pointed out to the OP that referencing the hateful words of a deranged comic-book villain calling women gold-diggers is NOT sound counsel for someone seeking relationship advice.[/li][li]Posters have pointed out to the OP that using terms such as “bitch” and “broad” do not reflect well on the counsel-giver in such cases.[/li][li]Posters have suggested the OP is wrong to brand Helena330 an “anti-male, feminist zealot” for using the phrase “thinking with his dick”, because this really is a common phrase used by men and women alike.[/li][/ol]

While other posts have included what could be seen as anti-conservative (or anti-Trump) remarks, I don’t think the above points are in any way political. I think they are quite rational, indeed, common-sense observations. Don’t you?

Yet your first contribution to this thread is,

> [@Clothahump](#):
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> They’re liberals, dude. Any time you say anything based in logic and fact, you’re automatically wrong and evil and bigoted and thinking with your dick, etc.

OK, so if you despise ridicule in response to “logic and fact”, please address the logical points I laid out above. And if you truly understand the liberal mindset so well, perhaps you could explain to the OP why MOST people here have chosen not to side with him. Heck, you don’t have to agree with us, just show a modicum of objective thinking. Put down the stick and \*study \*the monkeys. \*Learn \*from them!

Meantime, please consider this.

> [@Helena330](#):
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> **Cosmic** , if you truly are in college, it’s about growing as a person, not just earning a degree. Take a class outside your comfort zone, maybe a sociology or psych class on inequality or gender(gasp!), just one class. Discomfort means you’re _learning_. When you have over a dozen people telling you you’re wrong, while it’s easy to dismiss us as “libtards”, it’s possible the problem is you. I’ve been on boards a very long time and have made a lot of stupid posts, and have deservedly gotten beaten down for them. But I’ve also learned a lot from those experiences. I sincerely hope you’ve taken \*something \*from this, even if it’s just the realization that you have a lot to learn.

Coming from a person who has been called an “anti-male, feminist zealot” with daddy issues by the OP, I think this is a very gracious response. What say you?

And to **Helena330** , that was very classy. Good on you!

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**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/239 "2017-03-30T04:49:17Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Naught more than simple curiosity. If you have honestly never heard a man describing another man as “thinking with his dick,” I would put your age at around…maybe 10?

Nineteen.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/240 "2017-03-30T04:51:02Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> Nineteen.

You’re in college,right? Do you actually…socialize with other college age guys?

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