# Helena330 is an anti-male, feminist zealot

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 29, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264 "2017-03-29T02:06:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/41 "2017-03-29T03:19:11Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> . . . Ah, “thinking with his dick”, but I’m not thinking at all? That was a classic page from the radical, anti-male feminist playbook. No woman I’ve ever met gratuitously said another man is “thinking with his dick”. I have heard lines like that from radical feminists, and other extremists. . . . .

Sigh. I was born in the fifties. I remember life before feminism. And in those ancient times, I remember both of my grandmas, my grandpa, a passel of uncles, aunts, and whatever all occasionally shaking their heads and opining that so and so had been thinking with his dick again.

And I think I’m going to have to ask for a cite from an “anti-male feminist playbook” that actually mentions “thinking with his dick.” Most of the playbooks I read were . . . unwilling to descend into slang. That just wasn’t done back then.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/42 "2017-03-29T03:19:21Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> Beta cucks, low energy, MAGA, etc…

Aw damnit! I ALWAYS forget beta cucks, and its such a good one!

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**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/43 "2017-03-29T03:22:47Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> Yeah, honest Christian women who don’t spread their legs for any swinging dick with a pile of cash. Hardworking, salt-of-the-earth types, with broad hips who know their place and don’t sass back. Amiright?

Ah, what the fuck are you on about? Any swinging dick? Grow up, seriously. The vast majority of women in this country are Christians, so naturally vast majority of hardworking honest women in this country are Christian as well. This isn’t to demean Jewish, Buddhist or Muslim women, just that the demographics make that so.

But I didn’t even mention Christianity in my post, so I don’t know why you thought to bring it up.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/44 "2017-03-29T03:24:23Z")

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Yeah, I don’t know why I brought it up either. \<wink\>

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/45 "2017-03-29T03:28:05Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> …Are you guys fucking serious? You’re siding with her, after all I tried to do was make this man realize the foolishness of his ways, entrusting a cocaine addict to be in a relationship with him and not taking seriously the very real threat of her stealing from him?
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> That makes me the bad guy?
> 
> No. It does not. You left-wing boneheads can’t take your political correctness blinders off for one goddamn second, and realize that being forceful is an effective way of getting a message as important as mine across to this guy?

It doesn’t make you the bad guy. It just makes you retarded.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/46 "2017-03-29T03:33:55Z")

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> [@Helena330](#):
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> No college kid talks like that and I know a lot of them. You’ve said other things things that trigger my BS detector, as well. Who are you, really?

I had a conversation with a buddy of mine just yesterday along related lines - he said he grew up in a small town with little entertainment and as a result gravitated toward watching old movies with his dad. Later on, he found himself somewhat alienated from his peers because he knew who John Wayne and Edgar G. Robinson etc. were, while their pop-culture touchstones were far more recent.

I described a somewhat similar experience stemming from me reading a lot of _MAD Magazine_ specials and digests when I was a kid, typically parodies of pop-culture from at least 15 years earlier, giving me a comparable distance from my own peers. Further, I said things like “By George” a lot, because it was a common somewhat sarcastic phrase from _MAD_’s early years when they were a comic and not yet a magazine. I would have been reading reprints of these stories in the late 1970s, 25 years after they were first published, and my vocabulary became similarly dated.

In summary, CosmicManiac is certainly dumb, but may also be using outdated cultural touchstones because, not to put too fine a point on it, he has no friends among his peer group. My dinner buddy and I gradually got past that, but CM perhaps has not and perhaps can not.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/47 "2017-03-29T03:43:12Z")

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Hi **Helena**!

Fuck off, **CosmicManiac**.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/48 "2017-03-29T03:46:22Z")

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> [@](#):
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> As Norman Osborn widely told his son Harry in the 2002 Spider-Man film regarding his relationship with Mary Jane: “Do what you need to with her, and then broom her fast.”  
> […]  
> This bitch will tell you she loves you one minute and be sincere about it, and then sneak off with your wallet in the next to fuel her habit. As the aforementioned Osborn also told Harry about his late wife: “Your mother was beautiful. They’re all beautiful—until they’re snarling after your trust fund like a pack of ravening wolves.”
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> Your bitch sounds to me like a classic femme fatal, a hard-charging narcissist with a penchant for finer things in life that regular, working-class folks in America could only dream of (she lives in Toronto yes, but that’s besides the point, she still has more dough than most people).
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> Dump this broad, set her up in a therapy program for drug addicts, and move on your merry way. You don’t need this unrepentant, drug-addled, knee-jerk Trotskyite.

Hehe. It’s funny because women are bitches, snarling wolves, and Norman Osborn was [clearly a picture of good mental health](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrFKYxg6v7Y) and not the fucking villain. You moron.

Every word you say could be completely accurate, and it would _still_ be an incredibly shitty, misogynistic way of saying it. The fact you’re saying it about someone you don’t know, then calling out someone else for daring to point out how fucked up what you’re saying is. That’s enough to make me think you’re a fucking moron _before_ I found out that you voted for Donald Trump. Go back to /r/redpill, you colossal bag of tiny dicks.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/49 "2017-03-29T03:48:51Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> No woman I’ve ever met gratuitously said another man is “thinking with his dick”. I have heard lines like that from radical feminists, and other extremists.

The fuck? You can’t be serious.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/50 "2017-03-29T03:49:18Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> …And no one has still explained, in detail, why I’m supposedly at fault here.

Okay, I’ll take shot at this.

You have confused being blunt with being offensive. You could have pointed out the problems of having a relationship with a drug addict without referring to her as a bitch and a whore.

Whatever this woman’s faults may be, she’s never done anything to you or to anyone you know. You don’t have any reason to be this hostile towards somebody you’ve never met. The fact that you are this hostile suggests you have a general hostility towards women; or perhaps people in general.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/51 "2017-03-29T03:51:16Z")

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Q: Why don’t women have brains?

A: Because they don’t have dicks to put 'em in.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/52 "2017-03-29T03:57:30Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> Poppycock. I view cocaine-addled women as potential gold diggers who will break a man’s heart while wearing the smile of the Joker playing card. **I have the utmost respect for honest, hardworking women** —not conniving, deceptive ones.

LOL, a good woman like that could be on her knees giving you the best blowjob of your life and the honest, hardworking part of her would get right past you. You’d be too busy judging her based on your preconceived stereotypical misogyny to ever get to know who she was at her core. Yeah, you’ve got it all figured out, all right. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/53 "2017-03-29T04:11:21Z")

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Now if you just said that addiction can lead someone to lie, cheat and steal I don’t think anyone would have a problem with that. I myself have seen it happen to people of both sexes who before they were addicts were decent human beings. The way you put it was nasty and misogynistic.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/54 "2017-03-29T04:38:30Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> The topic of Helena’s misandry is easily dealt with - she ain’t got any.

She tolerates me so I assume she’s cute. Our host? Not so much.

> [@](#):
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> I will say to Helena that her criticism of you was uncalled for. She should have gone for all-out mockery and scorn to the very limits of the IMHO forum because you are richly deserving of it, being the dumbass you are.

I don’t think he could handle it, but it would be a fun watch.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I described a somewhat similar experience stemming from me reading a lot of _MAD Magazine_ specials and digests when I was a kid, typically parodies of pop-culture from at least 15 years earlier, giving me a comparable distance from my own peers. Further, I said things like “By George” a lot, because it was a common somewhat sarcastic phrase from _MAD_’s early years when they were a comic and not yet a magazine. I would have been reading reprints of these stories in the late 1970s, 25 years after they were first published, and my vocabulary became similarly dated.

The house we rented in Cleveland had the first ten or so MAD paperback anthologies, so I was exposed to such delights as Super-Duperman at the correct age, ten. It was awesome and something otherwise unavailable to me unless I had been born ten years earlier. Or willing to spend thirty-five cents (cheap!) for each. Landlady also had a bunch of Readers Digests from the '40s, so I learned about Canada: Sleeping Giant at Our Doorstep (You wonder why I don’t trust you and your ilk? Blame DeWitt Wallace.) and far more than I wanted to know about Joe’s pancreas.

Driving into Cleveland I had a Cracked. Leaving I had a MAD. Entering I had no horror show presenter because Richmond TV didn’t bother with one. In Cleveland there was Ghoulardi, but parents wouldn’t let me stay up that late. Local DJ moved to Chi w/permission to copy his schtick (Ghoulardi went on to be the Voice Of Primetime ABC, so he was cool.) Jerry G Bishop handed the Svenghouli reins to Sven Jr. I regret that last Saturday’s broadcast of Dracula was adulterated with INCIDENTAL MUSIC, FFS, but at my age I’m just happy to have some continuity in my life.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/55 "2017-03-29T04:53:11Z")

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When you’ve convinced yourself that you’re some downtrodden minority, you can see sexism in anything.

But you aren’t. We’ve got a lot of men here, and most of us know it isn’t sexist. Most of us have said this sort of thing to each other before.

You’ve also hitched yourself to the troll wagon with your previous antics, so no one is going to have any sympathy for you.

Going all “SJW” but in reverse isn’t going to make people listen to you. And while we give trolls a long rope, it’s only to tighten the noose. If you want to keep playing here, tone it down and act like a real person, and not some MRA-wannabe.

Or not, I really don’t give a fuck. I just feel like I should at least give people a chance.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/56 "2017-03-29T04:58:04Z")

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This thread is very timely, because I’ve recently had one of those experiences where you suddenly notice a poster you hadn’t really been aware of before. In my case, it’s **Helena330**. Over the past few weeks I’ve read several of her posts and thought, “wow, that’s great - I completely agree with the sentiment, and I like the way it was put, too. Who said that?”

So I’m pleased we have this opportunity to give her some well-deserved recognition. Long may **Helena330** post!

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/57 "2017-03-29T05:11:05Z")

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Carol, I long ago assumed you were bitchy-hot. I like that when I’m not the target. Friday mine good-wife’s nursing home is throwing her out. She plays nice with them, but can flay a hog with words. It’ll be nice to have her home, but I need to keep her aimed at the TV. The receiving end is less fun.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/58 "2017-03-29T05:35:45Z")

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I’m usually better off thinking with my dick, 'cause my dick don’t have a big fucking mouth to say what it’s thinking or hands to post it on a message board.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/59 "2017-03-29T05:50:09Z")

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And we all appreciate how much smarter than you is!  
FTR, I’m becoming pervertedly interested in Helena. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/60 "2017-03-29T05:54:35Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> And we all appreciate how much smarter than you is!  
> FTR, I’m becoming pervertedly interested in Helena. :eek:

You been drunk and have are drinking! Step back! I sar her before you first!

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