# Helena330 is an anti-male, feminist zealot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 29, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264 "2017-03-29T02:06:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/81 "2017-03-29T13:30:46Z")
[QUOTE=the chucklefuck OP] As Norman Osborn widely told his son Harry in the 2002 Spider-Man film regarding his relationship with Mary Jane: “Do what you need to with her, and then broom her fast.” [/QUOTE] Norman Osborne is a fictional, villainous character mouthing lines that highly-paid people wrote for him to say; they are meant to sound dramatic rather than reflect the truth. > [@](#): > > However, she’s also on a downward spiral. Cocaine does that to people. This bitch will tell you she loves you one minute and be sincere about it, and then sneak off with your wallet in the next to fuel her habit. As the aforementioned Osborn also told Harry about his late wife: “Your mother was beautiful. They’re all beautiful—until they’re snarling after your trust fund like a pack of ravening wolves.” Wow, Chucklefuck here is a fully qualified substance abuse counsellor who knows exactly how all the drug addicts will act, ever! Because once you’re labled as a drug addict, your autonomy goes right out the window and you cease to be human and there’s only one possible path you can follow. Either that or he’s an oracle, in which case I’d like tomorrow’s lotto numbers and the end-of-quarter and final scores of the 2018 Super Bowl in advance, plox. Again, Norman Osborn is a made-up person in a made-up story saying made-up things that people made up to tell a story, kind of like how when you’re humping a hole drilled into an overripe honeydew you make up stories to tell yourself you have worth as an individual and don’t really suck at life. Hey, don’t be getting mad at me. I’m just being blunt. It’s a virtuous necessity, don’tcha know. > [@](#): > > Your bitch sounds to me like a classic femme fatal, \*\*a hard-charging narcissist with a penchant for finer things in life that regular, working-class folks in America could only dream of \*\*(she lives in Toronto yes, but that’s besides the point, she still has more dough than most people). Remember the bolded portion. I’m going to mock you thoroughly for it shortly. Oh, and Torontonians? I hear tell that in Toronto, money is worth less than it is in the rest of Canada and especially the US, so you have to make up the shortfall by collecting dog turds and gum wrappers. Is that true?? > [@](#): > > Dump this broad, set her up in a therapy program for drug addicts, and move on your merry way. You don’t need this unrepentant, drug-addled, knee-jerk Trotskyite. Leaving aside the brainsploding concept of getting her into rehab without ditching her crackwhore ass, remember the section I bolded above? Of course not, so here it is again. The girlfriend, according to Chucklefuck OP, Brainbox, is a “hard-charging narcissist with a penchant for finer things in life that regular, working-class folks in America could only dream of.” Let’s have a peek at the [definition of Trotskyism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trotskyism#Definition), shall we? > [@](#): > > ``` > Support for the strategy of permanent revolution, in opposition to the Two Stage Theory of his opponents;[6] > > Criticism of the post-1924 leadership of the Soviet Union, analysis of its features[7] and after 1933, support for political revolution in the Soviet Union and in what Trotskyists term the deformed workers' states; > > Support for social revolution in the advanced capitalist countries through working class mass action; > > Support for proletarian internationalism;[8] and > > Use of a 'transitional' programme of demands that bridge between daily struggles of the working class and the 'maximal' ideas of the socialist transformation of society[9] > > ``` Gracious, this thing that you said: “a hard-charging narcissist with a penchant for finer things in life that regular, working-class folks in America could only dream of” sounds EXACTLY LIKE THAT! Idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/82 "2017-03-29T13:44:18Z")
> [@CosmicManiac](#): > > …And no one has still explained, in detail, why I’m supposedly at fault here. They’re liberals, dude. Any time you say anything based in logic and fact, you’re automatically wrong and evil and bigoted and thinking with your dick, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/83 "2017-03-29T13:47:58Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > **CosmicManiac** , how do you know that the woman in that thread isn’t honest and hardworking, and how do you know that she is conniving and deceptive? > > [snap] DRUGS!1:eek: ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/84 "2017-03-29T13:48:00Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > Sigh. I was born in the fifties. I remember life before feminism. Seneca falls was 1848. As for the OP, I’ve read a fair amount of radfem material and I don’t believe “thinking with his dick” shows up there more than in general society. For fun I tried to come up with radfem shibboleths, here’s what I got: Femininity is ritualized submission. Name the problem (male violence). Exploitation isn’t empowerment. Pornified culture. Porn sick men. Money isn’t consent. Male entitlement. Can’t identify out of oppression. Rape culture. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/85 "2017-03-29T13:50:54Z")
> [@Azeotrope](#): > > Again, Norman Osborn is a made-up person in a made-up story saying made-up things that people made up to tell a story, Wait, isn’t Spider-Man a documentary? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/86 "2017-03-29T13:52:07Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > They’re liberals, dude. Any time you say anything based in logic and fact, you’re automatically wrong and evil and bigoted and thinking with your dick, etc. So your usage of ethnic slurs like “wetback” is “based in logic and fact”? Please explain that for us. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/87 "2017-03-29T13:53:27Z")
I love see pit threads that backfire. You are a douche OP. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/88 "2017-03-29T13:54:48Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > They’re liberals, dude. Any time you say anything based in logic and fact, you’re automatically wrong and evil and bigoted and thinking with your dick, etc. Nobody will ever accuse you of thinking with your dick. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/89 "2017-03-29T13:59:00Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > They’re liberals, dude. Any time you say anything based in logic and fact, you’re automatically wrong and evil and bigoted and thinking with your dick, etc. Fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/90 "2017-03-29T14:18:20Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Nobody will ever accuse you of thinking with your dick. He’ll think with whatever his wife tells him to think with. ---
**Author:** ![Beren\_Erchamion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@Beren\_Erchamion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beren_Erchamion)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/91 "2017-03-29T14:19:37Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > They’re liberals, dude. Any time you say anything based in logic and fact, you’re automatically wrong and evil and bigoted and thinking with your dick, etc. Holy shit you’re an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/92 "2017-03-29T14:21:35Z")
Cosmo - I’m going to calmly focus on one aspect of your OP to try to explain it to you: You are using quotes from a movie villain as inspiring life lessons and viewpoints to be adopted. Don’t you see a wee problem with that? Using a movie villain as a role model? Really? REALLY? So, once you accept that it is a movie villain, and that maybe they shouldn’t be used as a role model, then you have to look at what they said and understand that the writers intended those statements to be seen as wrong and bad to normal folks. That’s how the audience can tell that the character is a villain. Instead, you quote the villain, as if the statements are words to live by. Seriously, examine your life, and examine who you look up to. ---
**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/93 "2017-03-29T14:31:05Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > Cosmo - I’m going to calmly focus on one aspect of your OP to try to explain it to you: > > You are using quotes from a movie villain as inspiring life lessons and viewpoints to be adopted. Don’t you see a wee problem with that? Using a movie villain as a role model? Really? REALLY? > > So, once you accept that it is a movie villain, and that maybe they shouldn’t be used as a role model, then you have to look at what they said and understand that the writers intended those statements to be seen as wrong and bad to normal folks. That’s how the audience can tell that the character is a villain. Instead, you quote the villain, as if the statements are words to live by. > > Seriously, examine your life, and examine who you look up to. Norman Osborn obviously had major issues, but his advice there certainly rings true here. You don’t think that some fictional movies had some very telling words of wisdom that could be applied to real-life situations? They do, and Osborn’s words certainly qualify. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/94 "2017-03-29T14:33:30Z")
I hate when I’m late to the party. All the good snark is already accounted for. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/95 "2017-03-29T14:34:01Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > They’re liberals, dude. Any time you say anything based in logic and fact, you’re automatically wrong and evil and bigoted and thinking with your dick, etc. You seem to be a bit confused. The “thinking with your dick” comment was directed at the OP with the cocaine-snorting girlfriend, not this OP. Are people actually not familiar with “thinking with you dick” and how it’s used? Because it sure as shit seems like it with Clothy’s and this OP’s comments. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/96 "2017-03-29T14:35:55Z")
> [@Azeotrope](#): > > Gracious, this thing that you said: “a hard-charging narcissist with a penchant for finer things in life that regular, working-class folks in America could only dream of” sounds EXACTLY LIKE THAT! Strangely, I thought the OP was a big fan of hard-charging narcissists with a penchant for finer things in life that regular, working-class folks in America could only dream of. He certainly seems to have voted for one. > [@Clothahump](#): > > They’re liberals, dude. Any time you say anything based in logic and fact, you’re automatically wrong and evil and bigoted and thinking with your dick, etc. How would you know? You’ve yet to say anything based in logic and fact. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/97 "2017-03-29T14:38:52Z")
> [@CosmicManiac](#): > > Norman Osborn obviously had major issues, but his advice there certainly rings true here. You don’t think that some fictional movies had some very telling words of wisdom that could be applied to real-life situations? They do, and Osborn’s words certainly qualify. You’re actually doubling down on the stupid. You should stop. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/98 "2017-03-29T14:46:16Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > How would you know? You’ve yet to say anything based in logic and fact. Watch out. Humpie will tell you to “Fuck off” then place you on _The List_. You don’t want to be on the list, do you? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/99 "2017-03-29T14:46:37Z")
Anyhow, as to this OP, I totally understand “tough love” and have used that approach many times, but not like this. Calling the other OP’s girlfriend “this bitch,” and “your bitch,” and speculating on thievery (and apparently Trotskyism, which I don’t understand the reference at all) is completely unnecessary and counterproductive in a “tough love” approach. It’s a completely gratuitous insult. You have no fucking clue what the OP’s girlfriend is like, and, were I the recipient of this type of “tough love” approach, I’d shut off immediately when I heard you throwing around characterizations like that. Plenty of people are functional coke heads. If you want to do “tough love” and at least be heard, you need it to be based in truth. Hypothetical situations and stereotypical characterizations with strong language is not “tough love.” ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/100 "2017-03-29T14:47:10Z")
Why is the OP obsessed with a shitty superhero movie from the early 2000s?? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264.md?page=6)