# Helena330 is an anti-male, feminist zealot

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 29, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264 "2017-03-29T02:06:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/101 "2017-03-29T14:49:29Z")

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> [@Avery\_Weisman](#):
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> The OP’s advice was too harsh, used the ‘b’ words too often, and ignored whatever the man felt for the woman. Correction should be in that direction, not some accusation from someone with little improvement in choice of words.

I kind of go along with this. It’s not that what he’s saying isn’t based in truth, he just mixed in some of his own, er, bias. In my experience, having been the coke addicted woman in the relationship, it \*can \*go down pretty much the way **CManic** says. The thing is, it’s got nothing to do with the gender of the addict. Drugs have no gender and are the real culprit. Addicted people of either sex will do some pretty low things and their co-dependent partners will put up with said low things because they’re just as sick (in a different way, obviously).

It sounds like the OP’s posting history has something to do with peoples’ reactions and not being familiar with him, I’m probably missing something.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/102 "2017-03-29T14:50:54Z")

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I came in here prepared to be all upset with **Helena330**. About half way through **CosmicManiac** ’s quoted post I was thinking “oh, oh, this isn’t going the way I thought it was going to.”

“bitch”  
“pack of ravening wolves”  
“broad”  
“drug-addled, knee-jerk Trotskyite”

Trotskyite? Why, because she’s Canadian? Yeah, what a scourge we semi-socialist Canadians are.

So, two posters who I never even noticed before are now on my permanent radar. One in a good way; the other - not so much.

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/103 "2017-03-29T14:52:17Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> Norman Osborn obviously had major issues, but his advice there certainly rings true here. You don’t think that some fictional movies had some very telling words of wisdom that could be applied to real-life situations? They do, and Osborn’s words certainly qualify.

No, absolutely not. That is why I posted what I did. You are mistaken. You need to understand that that is what we are all trying to point out to you.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/104 "2017-03-29T14:55:42Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I’m going to make an early prediction here that this thread is not going to go how you expect it.

Estimated Prophet … well done Moderator Miller, well done indeed !!!

[“Man Smart Woman Smarter”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvzarD06Gdo) {YouTube 7’06"}

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/105 "2017-03-29T15:03:59Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Nobody will ever accuse you of thinking with your dick.

No one will ever accuse **Clothy** of thinking.

And add me to the list of single, halfway-intelligent men who would chew their own arm off for **Helena** , though it sucks that I have competition.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/106 "2017-03-29T15:07:38Z")

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You poked the hive-mind. What’d you expect?

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**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/107 "2017-03-29T15:11:45Z")

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**Octopus** ought to change his name to **remora.**

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/108 "2017-03-29T15:14:17Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Watch out. Humpie will tell you to “Fuck off” then place you on _The List_. You don’t want to be on the list, do you?

I’m pretty sure I’m already on it. Which is what he does to anyone who responds to his posts using logic and fact. It insulates him from ever having to see them. Mind you, general abuse is still fun too.

> [@Leaffan](#):
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> “broad”

[Yeah, about that](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqeatUvRu68)…

> [@octopus](#):
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> You poked the hive-mind. What’d you expect?

“Everyone thinks I’m an asshole. But _I_ don’t think I’m an asshole. It must be that they’re all engaging in groupthink! Yes, that’s the only possible explanation!”

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/109 "2017-03-29T15:27:04Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> They’re liberals, dude. Any time you say anything based in logic and fact, you’re automatically wrong and evil and bigoted and thinking with your dick, etc.

Or, y’know, based on a [SPIDERMAN VILLAIN](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0krrrOmv0Xg)!

Jeez. I know you just enjoy poking librulz with a stick, and you can’t possibly be this stupid in real life, but tone it down a little.  
You’re getting clown makeup all over the board.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/110 "2017-03-29T15:29:39Z")

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> [@Not\_Carlson](#):
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> you can’t possibly be this stupid in real life

Of course he can. He’s a Texas Republican.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/111 "2017-03-29T15:30:20Z")

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> [@Not\_Carlson](#):
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> Jeez. I know you just enjoy poking librulz with a stick, and you can’t possibly be this stupid in real life

Hey now - he can if he wants to be. It’s a free country.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/112 "2017-03-29T15:31:40Z")

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You’re the one who came into a thread about heroin to day that you can tell by their dilated pupils right? I didn’t realize how thoroughly stupid you actually are, OP.

I bet you are still in college, but you’re an honor roll student so you KNOW things, huh.

Also, Helena is pretty darn awesome.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/113 "2017-03-29T15:40:06Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> No one will ever accuse **Clothy** of thinking.

I think we all recognize the difficulty of thinking with so little neural matter. You just can’t fit enough into something as tiny as Clothy’s purported wang.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/114 "2017-03-29T15:41:45Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> You poked the hive-mind. What’d you expect?

You had a PERFECT opportunity to use “Democrat collective”, and you failed harder than Casey Jones. You can’t always get a pitch down the middle, and it was served right up.

As to the OP, you almost have a nugget of a point, and it agrees with what other people had said. When you surrounded it with the written word’s equivalent of runny, malodorous elephant dung, you should have expected to be called out.

You argued that point, and got slapped down. At THAT point, you should have probably let it go, or made a little mental note “I don’t like **Helena330** because reasons.” Instead, you decided to start a Pit thread, and it has gloriously morphed in the exact fashion **Miller** predicted in the first response, and I did in my head when I saw the thread title and author.

I expected entertainment, and the SDMB Pit did not disappoint. I give this thread 5 nuts. It would have been 4, but you got a bonus nut for getting the other mouthbreathers to chime in to defend you.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/115 "2017-03-29T15:46:32Z")

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> [@Not\_Carlson](#):
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> Or, y’know, based on a [SPIDERMAN VILLAIN](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0krrrOmv0Xg)!
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> Jeez. I know you just enjoy poking librulz with a stick, and you can’t possibly be this stupid in real life, but tone it down a little.  
> You’re getting clown makeup all over the board.

I’ve known senile turtles smarter than he is.

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/116 "2017-03-29T15:47:21Z")

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> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> \*\*Helena330 is an anti-male, feminist zealot \*\*
> 
> Four days ago, a user called **Esco** posted a thread in the “In My Humble Opinion” section, wherein he revealed he was in a relationship with a successful young businesswoman in her 20s, but who had a serious coke habit. He asked whether he should stay with the woman, or leave her. . . .  
> . . . So, I decided to pitch in a dose of bluntness:
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> > [@](#):
> >
> > “Do what you need to with her, and then broom her fast.” . . .  
> > This bitch . . . “ravening wolves.” . . .  
> > Your bitch . . . hard-charging narcissist . . .  
> > . . . this broad . . . this unrepentant, drug-addled, knee-jerk Trotskyite.
> > 
> > . . .
> > 
> > This may seem harsh, but sometimes bluntness is a virtuous necessity.

Hey **Clothy** , **Octopus** , \*not \*siding with an obvious arsehole is also an option.  
Is there like a rulebook that says fellow arseholes must stick together?  
Do you have a secret arsehole handshake?

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Hey now - he can if he wants to be. It’s a free country.

You’re right. Live and let fester.  
I feel like such a Bolshevik.

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**Author:** ![edwards\_beard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/117 "2017-03-29T15:52:05Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> In my experience, having been the coke addicted woman in the relationship, it \*can \*go down pretty much the way **CManic** says.

How YOU doin’. 😉

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/118 "2017-03-29T15:58:54Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I’m pretty sure I’m already on it. Which is what he does to anyone who responds to his posts using logic and fact. It insulates him from ever having to see them. Mind you, general abuse is still fun too.
> 
> [Yeah, about that](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqeatUvRu68)…
> 
> “Everyone thinks I’m an asshole. But _I_ don’t think I’m an asshole. It must be that they’re all engaging in groupthink! Yes, that’s the only possible explanation!”

Hive mind think that?

The buzz around the nest is that it’s time to plagiarize some more cookie recipes.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/119 "2017-03-29T16:02:41Z")

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> [@edwards\_beard](#):
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> How YOU doin’. 😉

Great, now that I’ve ceased to be a classic femme fatal, hard-charging narcissist with a penchant for finer things in life that regular, working-class folks in America could only dream of. (Okay, I may still retain just a bit of the femme fatale 😉 )

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**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/120 "2017-03-29T16:06:38Z")

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Ooh, can I join in the pile-on? Other’s have covered the misogyny fairly well, but then there’s also the fact that this guy is a fucking judgmental tool. His entire knowledge of drugs and their effect on society seems to come from the TV show Intervention. In addition to him not seeing women as real people, he doesn’t seem to see drug users as real people either. So when a woman uses drugs, she’s obviously sub-human and probably evil. The TV show told him so!

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