# Helena330 is an anti-male, feminist zealot

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 29, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264 "2017-03-29T02:06:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/121 "2017-03-29T16:07:24Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I’ve known senile turtles smarter than he is.

There’s one in charge in the Senate, but let’s leave Mitch McConnell out of this.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/122 "2017-03-29T16:12:24Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Hey dumbfuck! Did you know you’re a blithering idiot to support someone both temperamentally and intellectually unfit to be President?

> [@CosmicManiac](#):
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> Please discuss the topic.

Funny, coming from someone who thinks the topic is whether it’s a good idea to tell a man that ignoring an SO’s cocaine addiction is unwise.

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**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/123 "2017-03-29T16:13:24Z")

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> [@Not\_Carlson](#):
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> Do you have a secret arsehole handshake?

Yes, we shake with only the middle finger extended.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/124 "2017-03-29T16:17:41Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> I kind of go along with this. It’s not that what he’s saying isn’t based in truth, he just mixed in some of his own, er, bias. In my experience, having been the coke addicted woman in the relationship, it \*can \*go down pretty much the way **CManic** says.

I’m certainly not arguing that it can’t. But I would have the same reaction if the genders were reversed and the OP said “dump the dickhead” or “asshole” or whatever. It’s not the usage of the word “bitch” that bugs me. So-called “tough love” doesn’t work when you put the object of “tough love” immediately on the defensive and make baseless characterizations like that. I certainly have no interest in habitual cokeheads myself, but if somebody came to me with that type of “tough love” I’d tell them to fuck the right off.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/125 "2017-03-29T16:21:36Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Funny, coming from someone who thinks the topic is whether it’s a good idea to tell a man that ignoring _an SO’s cocaine addiction_ is unwise.

Realized I may have mischaracterized someone, but missed the edit window:

please mentally replace the italicized section with _an SO’s potentially incipient cocaine addiction_.

That is all.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/126 "2017-03-29T16:41:29Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> How would you know? You’ve yet to say anything based in logic and fact.

> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Watch out. Humpie will tell you to “Fuck off” then place you on _The List_. You don’t want to be on the list, do you?

Is it the “Ignore” List? Then yes.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/127 "2017-03-29T17:04:03Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> You poked the hive-mind. What’d you expect?

I’m not going to bother with the obvious troll of the OP, but what’s your damage here, Octopus?

Do you agree with the Green Goblin school of relationship dynamics? Is the phrase “thinking with your dick” an anti-male-feminist-zealot shibboleth?

Going back to the issue of dating a cocaine addict, is this a gendered problem? Like if it were a woman dating a man who was a cocaine addict it would be fine, but it’s a whole different story for a man to date a woman who is a cocaine addict?

Women are bitches, amirite? So don’t date a cocaine addicted bitch?

Or would you advise women not to date cocaine addicted man-bitches? Or is that fine?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/128 "2017-03-29T17:29:30Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> what’s your damage here, Octopus?

Attack one jerkass Republican and the rest come out of the woodwork to defend the first, don’t you know that? I call it “Cardboard Knighting”.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/129 "2017-03-29T17:45:03Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> The buzz around the nest is that it’s time to plagiarize some more cookie recipes.

\*Plagiarize \*cookie recipes?

Did somebody find a new word and want to show it off?

That’s not exactly the same as copying a master’s thesis, unless you consider cookie recipes high levels of learning. Is Pilsbury your cheat sheet?

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/130 "2017-03-29T17:51:06Z")

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> [@](#):
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> cocaine addicted man-bitches

no, not a band, but perhaps a comic strip?

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/131 "2017-03-29T17:51:18Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Attack one jerkass Republican and the rest come out of the woodwork to defend the first, don’t you know that? I call it “Cardboard Knighting”.

One could almost call it “poking the hive mind.”

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/132 "2017-03-29T18:16:07Z")

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For fuck’s sake. This whole thing started over a thread about an occasional social cocaine user started by her wanker boyfriend. NOT a raving cocaine addict.

I would be an occasional social cocaine user, but I can’t afford it.

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/133 "2017-03-29T18:57:11Z")

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The key to besting a perceived hive mind is wearing it down by pounding the devil’s advocate drum over and over and over again with no regard to how relevant and tactful it is to do so.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/134 "2017-03-29T18:57:25Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> For fuck’s sake. This whole thing started over a thread about an occasional social cocaine user started by her wanker boyfriend. NOT a raving cocaine addict.
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> I would be an occasional social cocaine user, but I can’t afford it.

Yep, I’m you as well.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/135 "2017-03-29T19:01:16Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> I would be an occasional social cocaine user, but I can’t afford it.

Lost your job because of Obama? Trump’ll fix it! He’s the only one who can!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/136 "2017-03-29T19:10:11Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …I would be an occasional social cocaine user, but I can’t afford it.

I’d back that. If the shit was about, say, ten bucks a gram, I would pick some up for a Saturday night whoop. Or not, depending. Kinda like it, wouldn’t drive across town to get it.

'Course, I can be totally a bitch sometimes, but I scratch, fart and belch while I do it. Not simultaneously, because that will kill you.

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/137 "2017-03-29T19:14:00Z")

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This thread has gone about as I expected since I got\*\* Cosmic\*\*'s PM entitled “I’ve pitted you for your anti-male rhetoric”. Thanks, Dopers.

I spend a lot of time with college kids and I’m so impressed with how idealistic and insightful they are. They give me hope for the future. I haven’t run across one like \*\*Cosmic. \*\* It makes me really sad to know there are such intolerant young people out there.

**Cosmic** , if you truly are in college, it’s about growing as a person, not just earning a degree. Take a class outside your comfort zone, maybe a sociology or psych class on inequality or gender(gasp!), just one class. Discomfort means you’re _learning_. When you have over a dozen people telling you you’re wrong, while it’s easy to dismiss us as “libtards”, it’s possible the problem is you. I’ve been on boards a very long time and have made a lot of stupid posts, and have deservedly gotten beaten down for them. But I’ve also learned a lot from those experiences. I sincerely hope you’ve taken \*something \*from this, even if it’s just the realization that you have a lot to learn.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/138 "2017-03-29T19:15:50Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Hive mind think that?
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> The buzz around the nest is that it’s time to plagiarize some more cookie recipes.

I don’t think you understand how the recipe threads work.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/139 "2017-03-29T19:41:46Z")

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He seems to have a rudimentary concept of how trolling threads should go, though…

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**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/140 "2017-03-29T20:08:17Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> I would be an occasional social cocaine user, but I can’t afford it.

I can afford it, but I think I’m allergic to it. Last time I used it, I broke out in handcuffs.

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