# Helena330 is an anti-male, feminist zealot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 29, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264 "2017-03-29T02:06:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/141 "2017-03-29T20:43:13Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > They’re liberals, dude. Any time you say anything based in logic and fact, you’re automatically wrong and evil and bigoted and thinking with your dick, etc. Note to **CosmicManiac** -This here is what you call your basic “Kiss Of Death” endorsement-Once **Clothy** takes your side, you might as well fold and go home. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/142 "2017-03-29T21:21:39Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Note to **CosmicManiac** -This here is what you call your basic “Kiss Of Death” endorsement-Once **Clothy** takes your side, you might as well fold and go home. And a quick reacharound from **octopus** , to boot. Now I only need **Okrahoma** and **d’Anconia** for a wingnut bingo. (As always, \*\*doorhinge \*\*is the free space.) ---
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/143 "2017-03-29T21:30:05Z")
> [@CosmicManiac](#): > > …Are you guys fucking serious? You’re siding with her, after all I tried to do was make this man realize the foolishness of his ways, entrusting a cocaine addict to be in a relationship with him and not taking seriously the very real threat of her stealing from him? > > That makes me the bad guy? > > No. It does not. You left-wing boneheads can’t take your political correctness blinders off for one goddamn second, and realize that being forceful is an effective way of getting a message as important as mine across to this guy? I can assure you that plenty of left-wing folks are not fans of political correctness. Nothing you’ve said, however, sounds like anything other than hiding behind the “anti-pc” shield as an excuse to be a jerk. For the record, I have nothing against jerks. Or assholes, really. But principled jerks don’t melt down and turn into whiny bitches so easily. There’s a much more effective way to be “forceful,” also. I was sympathetic to the premise of your grievance but the substance was nonexistent. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/144 "2017-03-29T21:31:24Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > And a quick reacharound from **octopus** , to boot. Now I only need **Okrahoma** and **d’Anconia** for a wingnut bingo. (As always, \*\*doorhinge \*\*is the free space.) lol ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/145 "2017-03-29T21:36:12Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > They’re liberals, dude. Any time you say anything based in logic and fact, you’re automatically wrong and evil and bigoted and thinking with your dick, etc. > [@Beren\_Erchamion](#): > > Holy shit you’re an idiot. See what I mean? This is a perfect example of a liberal response to a conservative’s statement. No attempt to debate, just jump straight to the ad hominem name calling like a five year old because you can’t refute what was said originally. And BTW - fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/146 "2017-03-29T21:40:02Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > You seem to be a bit confused. The “thinking with your dick” comment was directed at the OP with the cocaine-snorting girlfriend, not this OP. > > Are people actually not familiar with “thinking with you dick” and how it’s used? Because it sure as shit seems like it with Clothy’s and this OP’s comments. No, it was simply used as an example of the kind of senseless response that one can (and should) expect from liberals, and indeed is one of the responses that was received in the original thread. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/147 "2017-03-29T21:41:00Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > See what I mean? This is a perfect example of a liberal response to a conservative’s statement. No attempt to debate, just jump straight to the ad hominem name calling like a five year old because you can’t refute what was said originally. > > And BTW - fuck off. You can either oppose an idiot or side with an idiot-debating is rather useless. Your choice is duly noted. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/148 "2017-03-29T21:42:37Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > See what I mean? This is a perfect example of a liberal response to a conservative’s statement. No attempt to debate, just jump straight to the ad hominem name calling like a five year old because you can’t refute what was said originally. > > And BTW - fuck off. What debate were you participating in? Your entire contribution to the thread is “WAAAH LIBERALS ARE MEAN!!!” and then crying about it. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/149 "2017-03-29T21:44:57Z")
> [@Not\_Carlson](#): > > Or, y’know, based on a [SPIDERMAN VILLAIN](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0krrrOmv0Xg)! > > Jeez. I know you just enjoy poking librulz with a stick, and you can’t possibly be this stupid in real life, but tone it down a little. > You’re getting clown makeup all over the board. Sorry if it upsets you, dude - it was a statement of fact. All one has to do is to read responses to my posts to see what I’m talking about. Just the responses in this thread prove what I said. It’s not that I _enjoy_ poking libs with a stick, but damn, it gets tiring reading idiotic bullshit and namecalling responses every day whenever I post something. It’s like listening to the monkeys in the zoo gibbering and throwing shit all over the place. It was funny for a while but not any more. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/150 "2017-03-29T21:47:39Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > It’s not that I _enjoy_ poking libs with a stick, but damn, it gets tiring reading idiotic bullshit and namecalling responses every day whenever I post something. … Nah. Too easy. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/151 "2017-03-29T21:49:56Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > … It was funny for a while but not any more. Aww… then perhaps it’s time you FUCK OFF. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/152 "2017-03-29T21:52:17Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > See what I mean? This is a perfect example of a liberal response to a conservative’s statement. No attempt to debate, just jump straight to the ad hominem name calling like a five year old because you can’t refute what was said originally. > > And BTW - fuck off. Because it gets so fucking tiring with people like you. You insist that we are pissed at Cosmo because he dared insinuate that a woman on drugs may be likely to take advantage of a guy she’s dating. No, that’s NOT what we’re pissed about and you fucking know it. It’s the “Your Bitch” thing, it’s the objectification “Get what you need, then broom them fast!” etc… So yeah, after so many times of pointing out the obvious to you, remarks like: “You’re a fucking idiot!” seem completely justifiable. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/153 "2017-03-29T21:55:44Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > See what I mean? This is a perfect example of a liberal response to a conservative’s statement. No attempt to debate, just jump straight to the ad hominem name calling like a five year old because you can’t refute what was said originally. > > And BTW - fuck off. You have never attempted to debate anyone about anything. Whenever someone tries, you disappear, and never return to the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/154 "2017-03-29T21:57:59Z")
He states his position (or at least hints at it) then tells everyone else that they’re wrong. That’s _old-school_ debating! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/155 "2017-03-29T22:02:14Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > It’s not that I _enjoy_ poking libs with a stick, but damn, it gets tiring reading idiotic bullshit and namecalling responses every day whenever I post something. It’s like listening to the monkeys in the zoo gibbering and throwing shit all over the place. It was funny for a while but not any more. Is the name-calling you’re complaining about kind of like your unrepentant use of ethnic slurs? ---
**Author:** ![BeeGee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5a626/32.png) [@BeeGee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeeGee)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/156 "2017-03-29T22:08:58Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > They’re liberals, dude. Any time you say anything based in logic and fact, you’re automatically wrong and evil and bigoted and thinking with your dick, etc. I dunno. Try it sometime. You might be surprised. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/157 "2017-03-29T22:11:38Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > No, it was simply used as an example of the kind of senseless response that one can (and should) expect from liberals, and indeed is one of the responses that was received in the original thread. I honestly have no idea what you’re on about here. Are you saying the response to the original OP that he is/was “thinking with his dick” is a typical _liberal_ response? Because that sure as shit is not my experience. (ETA: I don’t think of the expression as being political one way or another, but most often I heard it from social conservatives growing up as a teenager; you know stuff like “doni’t think with your little head, but your big head” and its ilk. There is nothing “liberal” or “feminist” about it.) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/158 "2017-03-29T22:12:50Z")
Helena330, your special thread just keeps getting better and better. While I’m here, I will take a moment to state that Clothahump is an idiot of the highest order. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/159 "2017-03-29T22:33:32Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > This is a perfect example of a liberal response to a conservative’s statement. No attempt to debate, just jump straight to the ad hominem name calling like a five year old because you can’t refute what was said originally. It’s known as “tailoring the message.” ---
**Author:** ![CosmicManiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85e7bf/32.png) [@CosmicManiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CosmicManiac)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264/160 "2017-03-29T22:50:17Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Because it gets so fucking tiring with people like you. > > You insist that we are pissed at Cosmo because he dared insinuate that a woman on drugs may be likely to take advantage of a guy she’s dating. > > No, that’s NOT what we’re pissed about and you fucking know it. It’s the “Your Bitch” thing, it’s the objectification “Get what you need, then broom them fast!” etc… > So yeah, after so many times of pointing out the obvious to you, remarks like: “You’re a fucking idiot!” seem completely justifiable. You and Helena evidently did not like my input, but it was both necessary, wise and correct in this instance. The posts that **Esco** made further explaining his relationship with her only further exacerbates my belief that she will end up ripping him off, taking his heart as well as some of his money with her, so she can sniff some more cocaine junk up her nostrils. She’s a seductive woman good at selling herself to people (remember, he described her as a successful businesswoman in her early 20s), and in this case her relationship with him is no different. As Norman Osborn also said: “You think a woman like that is sniffing around because she likes your personality?” No, Esco, she is not. And yes, the pun was intended [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/helena330-is-an-anti-male-feminist-zealot/783264.md?page=9)