# Hell is now taking the souls of Canadians. Whom shall we damn first?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 3, 2010, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338 "2010-11-03T16:11:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/21 "2010-11-03T20:19:00Z")

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For future reference, are there any countries remaining whose citizens are ineligible for damnation, or was Canada the last of them?

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/22 "2010-11-03T20:23:11Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> For future reference, are there any countries remaining whose citizens are ineligible for damnation, or was Canada the last of them?

Canada was unique in modern times in that the Mouthless Horror found its citizens so repellent that he refused to torture them, much less eat them. Interestingly, however, the entire population of Atlantis somehow escaped the pit even though that nation was vile enough for the Other Side to massacre them en masse in history’s second-greatest genocide.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/23 "2010-11-03T20:30:49Z")

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Heh - the more you know.

Is Ronald Moore eligible for damnation under the Canadian quota? He’s not _technically_ Canadian, but his greatest sin was committed in Vancouver. I refer, of course, to the Godsawful final episode of _Battlestar Galactica._

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/24 "2010-11-03T20:37:33Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> Heh - the more you know.
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> Is Ronald Moore eligible for damnation under the Canadian quota? He’s not _technically_ Canadian, but his greatest sin was committed in Vancouver. I refer, of course, to the Godsawful final episode of _Battlestar Galactica._

:: whispering ::  
It is … unwise … to speak of _Battlestar Galactica_ here. The Mouthless Horror is still angry over the finale and has been known to summarily consume anyone who reminds him of it. The darkest parts of the pit have been readied for the Moore-beast should he come into our jurisdiction, but he is currently bound for Heaven. I think the Carpenter commissioned the _Galactica_ finale just to make trouble for us down here, frankly.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/25 "2010-11-03T20:42:01Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> Heh - the more you know.
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> Is Ronald Moore eligible for damnation under the Canadian quota? He’s not _technically_ Canadian, but his greatest sin was committed in Vancouver. I refer, of course, to the Godsawful final episode of _Battlestar Galactica._

Holy shit…you’re a liberal, and frequently say horrible things about the South, but apparently you aren’t all bad. Of course, if dueling is ever legalized, I’m still gonna call you out for pistols at dawn for the South bashing. But, on this, we agree.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/26 "2010-11-03T20:43:59Z")

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Well, a good start would be by taking all those poor benighted souls who think Molson is a decent beer.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/27 "2010-11-03T20:44:53Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> The ban on Canadians also included the people of Wisconsin and other such border states; the Boss wanted to be sure nobody slipped through by accident. Thus Wisconsans can also be damned now.
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> Any suggestions? And don’t say Eric Foreman.

I think you mean [Eric Forman](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Forman). [Eric Foreman](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Foreman) is a doctor at Princeton-Plainfield Hospital in New Jersey, and to the best of my recollection, not related to the former Forman.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/28 "2010-11-03T20:50:41Z")

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> [@MsRobyn](#):
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> I think you mean [Eric Forman](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Forman). [Eric Foreman](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Foreman) is a doctor at Princeton-Plainfield Hospital in New Jersey, and to the best of my recollection, not related to the former Forman.

Well, that’s why I said not to suggest him. Obviously. 😃

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/29 "2010-11-03T21:04:43Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Thus Wisconsans can also be damned now. Any suggestions?

Oh my, yes. I’d like to start with the hearty nomination of Governor-elect Scott Walker and Senator-elect Ron Johnson.

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**Author:** ![dhkendall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9adbd/32.png) [@dhkendall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dhkendall)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/30 "2010-11-03T21:31:02Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> The ban on Canadians also included the people of Wisconsin and other such border states; the Boss wanted to be sure nobody slipped through by accident.

Uhh, Alaska’s a border state.

I don’t think I need to hold your hand any further on this matter …

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/31 "2010-11-03T21:39:55Z")

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> [@dhkendall](#):
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> Uhh, Alaska’s a border state.
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> I don’t think I need to hold your hand any further on this matter …

I should have thought it obvious from the OP that Palin works for us. You don’t need the details.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/32 "2010-11-03T23:42:45Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Well, a good start would be by taking all those poor benighted souls who think Molson is a decent beer.

What, you mean US Americans? 😃

What problem does hell have with Canadians anyway? We’re nice, dammit! Oh, wait, I think I answered my own question.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/33 "2010-11-04T00:32:15Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> [Dalton McGuinty.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalton_McGuinty)
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> I don’t care if you never heard of him. Please take him now. Before he taxes again.

Hey, hey! Hands off Dalton! In spite of the hamhandedness of that eco-tax thing, at least his heart’s in the right place. Take [Jim Flaherty](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Flaherty) instead. He’s led an entire federal electoral district Downwards. And his wife is in the _provicial_ Parliament for the same district!

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/34 "2010-11-04T02:59:56Z")

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B.C.'s Premier Gordon Campbell resigned today. He can go to hell immediately.

The most likely reason he stepped down is to scapegoat himself for the introduction of an unpopular harmonized sales tax, which has whipped British Columbians up into a blind fury.

I find this hysterical, since it’s actually not such a bad idea - and for some reason the past ten years of Liberal (this word _definitely_ does not mean what you think it means in this context, Americans) murderous malfeasance has mysteriously\* not\* resulted in revolt.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/35 "2010-11-04T11:38:46Z")

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> [@Larry\_Mudd](#):
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> B.C.'s Premier Gordon Campbell resigned today. He can go to hell immediately.
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> The most likely reason he stepped down is to scapegoat himself for the introduction of an unpopular harmonized sales tax, which has whipped British Columbians up into a blind fury.
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> I find this hysterical, since it’s actually not such a bad idea - and for some reason the past ten years of Liberal (this word _definitely_ does not mean what you think it means in this context, Americans) murderous malfeasance has mysteriously\* not\* resulted in revolt.

“Murderous malfeasance”? Are you blaming Campbell for the feet washing ashore as well?

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/36 "2010-11-04T13:56:37Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> What, you mean US Americans? 😃
> 
> What problem does hell have with Canadians anyway? We’re nice, dammit! Oh, wait, I think I answered my own question.

In the first place, Hell is supposed to be capitalized.

In the second place, Hell is all evil & stuff. I don’t know why you would think niceness would do anything but offend the Boss.

In the third place, in the other thread you were complaining about Canadians NOT being eligible for eternal damnation. Why the change of heart?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/37 "2010-11-04T18:01:13Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Holy shit…you’re a liberal, and frequently say horrible things about the South, but apparently you aren’t all bad. Of course, if dueling is ever legalized, I’m still gonna call you out for pistols at dawn for the South bashing. But, on this, we agree.

Tell you what - if you back marijuana legalization, I’ll push for the dueling thing. (Hopefully, both will pass, and we’ll either be too stoned to care, or just become wretched shots).

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/38 "2010-11-04T18:36:05Z")

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\*\*Oakminster \*\*seems pretty principled. I suspect in a duel he might shoot into the ground to satisfy his honor.  
Alternatively, he might shoot into the sternum. Tough to say.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/39 "2010-11-04T19:51:03Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> Tell you what - if you back marijuana legalization, I’ll push for the dueling thing. (Hopefully, both will pass, and we’ll either be too stoned to care, or just become wretched shots).

Strongly suspect I was backing marijuana legalization before you were born.  
🆒

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hell-is-now-taking-the-souls-of-canadians-whom-shall-we-damn-first/559338/40 "2010-11-04T21:05:36Z")

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> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#):
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> “Murderous malfeasance”? Are you blaming Campbell for the feet washing ashore as well?

Only slightly hyperbolic. Making up for corporate tax cuts by completely gutting social programs is the main thing. You’d think there’d be more pressure to correct the absurdity that the the province with the highest cost of living in the country has the lowest minimum wage in the country, but they weren’t content with simply not raising it since they came took the reigns in 2001. “Ooh, here’s an idea: Let’s _relax_ the minimum wage for new workers. $6/hr sounds fair, eh?”\* I can’t get my head around the _this_ being blithely accepted while stepping into line with other provinces and harmonizing the sales taxes brought them down. “Oh, noes, this much more efficient tax scheme which in most cases leaves me paying _the exact same total rate as before_ also has the consequence of adding a dollar or perhaps _two dollars_ to my share of a restaurant meal. DEATH TO THE TYRANT!” Shee-it, this is barely noticeable - in my experience, the prospect of running the gauntlet of ever-increasing panhandlers and homeless people is much more dissuasive when considering dining out.

If I had any belief in a literal hell, I wouldn’t imagine our dear premier finding a way to avoid it.

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